Mini 1771 - Legend of Zelda Mafia: Storm the Castle Endgame

[SirCakez]

POE, he's being dodgy af, makes a lot of sense with the game state, Chaos and Radja both did fuck all

[Nahdia]

so you'd prefer that flip over Xkfyu?

[SirCakez]

No I'd prefer an Investigative claim flipped but we have the plan with PK being tested tonight so this works

[Xkfyu]

I was reading the rest before I was gonna say. Okay so xkyfu reads as scummy and I think his role claim was really weird cause of the way his cop works and I think someone said something about it only being 1-shot though which could make sense cause of my role.

I think it was pisskop, but he wasn't saying that I was a 1-Shot cop, he said it was basically like a 1-Shot Cop, since the chances of me getting more than 1 result is pretty unlikely.

[Xkfyu]

Cakes fucking vote for Xk already.

No, don't ignore the completely reasonable things I've said and just keep trying to push my lynch. Respond.

Why is Cakez now lying about expecting Zelda to be a scum role, and why are you ignoring it?

Why didn't you remember me mentioning very early in this day phase, even though you continuously talk about how much you are paying attention?

Sensei.

[Sensei]

Okay for starters what answer are you expecting to the first question? Even if cakes is lying why do you want me to speak for him?

Sometimes I do miss things. But the backbone to your push is that there's

usually

one scum between two neighbor roles. That doesn't impress me.

[Sensei]

You, as an alignment cop, being such firm believer in that there can't be overlap in claims ever, should have been a lot more positive on a beeboy scumflip then you were.

I'm like 99% positive that you're scum.

[Sensei]

/Trying to look town

Unvote
Vote: Cleavage

Hi Mirhawk.
Pretty weak vote you've got there.
Welcome to the scumpile.

There have been a lot of weak votes, especially around the time that this was posted. Hell, I didn't even give a reason with my vote on Davsto.

Why are you singling out Mirhawk? Is it simply because his weak vote is on you?

No it isn't PW is terrible atm lol.

VOTE: PW

How am I terrible?

You need to take a step back and realize just because someone is pressuring you it doesn't make them scum.

That is if you are town.

The bold part kinda sounds forced to me. Like he thought he needed to put that disclaimer in there, just to make sure everyone knew that he didn't know his Phoenix's alignment.

He's not scum for tunneling me. He's scum because it sounds like all of his reasons for why he says that he thinks I'm scum are horrible and seem insincere

Whether or not I agree with that your reaction to the claims is much, much worse.

Translation: "You're right, but I don't want to say so, because that's going to make my case that your reaction was terrible."

VOTE: beeboy

beeboy is your V key broken or something???

Actually PW that unvote was awkward as hell. Scum push town all the time lmfao. That felt like such an lame excuse to unvote.....................

No
V

Then what are you doing?

This is almost directly after toog and mirhawk caught on to beeboy.

Tell this doesn't look like a panic bus.

I mean just look at what he needed to scrap for to make it seem like he wasn't just sheeping the wagon.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: XKyfu

[Xkfyu]

/Trying to look town

Unvote
Vote: Cleavage

Hi Mirhawk.
Pretty weak vote you've got there.
Welcome to the scumpile.

There have been a lot of weak votes, especially around the time that this was posted. Hell, I didn't even give a reason with my vote on Davsto.

Why are you singling out Mirhawk? Is it simply because his weak vote is on you?

No it isn't PW is terrible atm lol.

VOTE: PW

How am I terrible?

You need to take a step back and realize just because someone is pressuring you it doesn't make them scum.

That is if you are town.

The bold part kinda sounds forced to me. Like he thought he needed to put that disclaimer in there, just to make sure everyone knew that he didn't know his Phoenix's alignment.

He's not scum for tunneling me. He's scum because it sounds like all of his reasons for why he says that he thinks I'm scum are horrible and seem insincere

Whether or not I agree with that your reaction to the claims is much, much worse.

Translation: "You're right, but I don't want to say so, because that's going to make my case that your reaction was terrible."

VOTE: beeboy

beeboy is your V key broken or something???

Actually PW that unvote was awkward as hell. Scum push town all the time lmfao. That felt like such an lame excuse to unvote.....................

No
V

Then what are you doing?

This is almost directly after toog and mirhawk caught on to beeboy.

Tell this doesn't look like a panic bus.

I mean just look at what he needed to scrap for to make it seem like he wasn't just sheeping the wagon.

It doesn't look anything like that. There is no reason to be worried about panic bussing my buddy when we were less than 200 posts into the game.

You. Are. Reaching.

[Sensei]

You're not really my target audience, though, thankfully.

[Sensei]

Why are you voting pisskop, again?

[Xkfyu]

Why are you voting pisskop, again?

Because of his contradiction about Dwlee's flavor, originally. And it is staying there, as a self-preservation vote, unless something better comes up.

[Xkfyu]

You, as an alignment cop, being such firm believer in that there can't be overlap in claims ever, should have been a lot more positive on a beeboy scumflip then you were.

I'm like 99% positive that you're scum.

Again, stop acting like I haven't completely and reasonably explained the difference between the two. Don't ignore my very valid point just because they are inconvenient.

[Sensei]

You're a cop, with a scumread on beeboy, who claims cop and don't immediately call bullshit.

What is your valid defense to that?

[Nahdia]

He thinks their roles could co-exist since they're both weak (one is a 1-shot, the other is lazy).

[Nahdia]

I'm answering for him because this same conversation has happened multiple times btw...

[Dwlee99]

STOP ANSWERING FOR PEOPLE NAHDIA

pedit :3

[Sensei]

Which begs the question of why the differences in power between ari and cakes' neighbor doesn't lead him to the same conclusion - that it's possible they could coexist.

Talk about reads being convenient.

[Sensei]

I'm answering for him because this same conversation has happened multiple times btw...

It's typical scum to want to argue in circles. I'm just going over it again because he thinks I'm ignoring him.

[Nahdia]

Which begs the question of why the differences in power between ari and cakes' neighbor doesn't lead him to the same conclusion - that it's possible they could coexist.

Talk about reads being convenient.

actually yeah Sensei brings up a REALLY good point. Xkfyu, if you're an alignment cop beeboy should have been essentially confirmed scum to you.

Why? Because there couldn't have possibly been a 1-Shot Cop along with my role which, at best, gets a result every 2 night phases?

hey now. if you're gonna say Ari's neighborize that only works Link conflicts with SirCakez 3-member-cap unlimited neighborize then uhh... yeah. this should of been a conflict to u lol

Xkfyu the point is you seemed fairly unsure about Beeboy yourself.

I was, and you know what? I'm not even going to bother explaining it any further because it's very easy to see how a 1-Shot Cop could coexist with my, relatively weak, Cop role.

and yet SirCakez' neighborizer can't co-exist with Ari's very weak neighborizer?

Alignment Cop is inherently a town role. Neighbourizer is not. In fact, it's usually the case that two neighbourizers in the same game are of opposite alignments.

Why do I have to keep explaining this?

[Dwlee99]

Which begs the question of why the differences in power between ari and cakes' neighbor doesn't lead him to the same conclusion - that it's possible they could coexist.

Talk about reads being convenient.

so if xkyfu is scum sircakez is probz town?

[Nahdia]

fwiw i'm not convinced by Xkfyu's answers but there they are

@Dwlee there's no role mechanic CC between them though i would say it's likely one is scum and the other is town from my reads standpoint anyway

[Sensei]

Like, maybe if he'd of said something to the effect of not wanting to CC right away to get some results first? I might of bought that.

But it also makes most of what he was doing day 2 (ie lining up his reads in a way that depended on beeboy's flip) read extremely fake.

Like, ask cakes. We hydra'd and rolled cop and scum claimed cop day 1 and instead of CCing right away I ended up chatting about how my reads were completely off and flipped my read around on who to us was confirmed scum and even attempted to work with the scum about reads and stuff (p funny in hindsight and probably not necessary but you know, paranoia) just so we wouldn't eat a NK before getting a clear. So that would have been an acceptable answer.

But he chose to go the "well they're not both technically a strong cop" route which reeks.

[Dwlee99]

just realized the logic I used was wrong because of the fact that xkyfu would have to cc his scum partner and that if xkyfu is scum if gives no insight on cakes' alignment.