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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:52 pm

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In post 174, Killthestory wrote:No definitive stances, on scumreads, very passive, not contributing at all.
Trying to get into the game still mayhap?
Bummed at having to claim, his fate mused by us all, our views tainted by it?

I could see both being the case here.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:54 pm

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No it sounds more like scum
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:12 pm

Post by RadiantCowbells »

Varied Music Mafia:
Votecount #1.8:

RadiantCowbells (ಠ_ಠ): Ircher

Thurhame (4): duppin, Katsuki, camn, SnarkySnowman
duppin (2): The Archmage Ludicrous, GuyFawkes
DeathRowKitty (1): Aristophanes
The Archmage Ludicrous (1): iraonavp
iraonavp (1): DeathRowKitty
Katsuki (1): Thurhame
Ircher (0): Killthestory
Aristophanes (0):
camn (0):
Killthestory (0):
GuyFawkes (0):
SnarkySnowman (0):
Almost50 (0):

Not voting: Almost50

With 13 alive it's 7 to lynch.

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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:38 pm

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asdfjkl;

Nah, nothing has really caught my attn yet. I would like to know though the association you have concluded between me and Katsu.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:00 pm

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In post 53, The Archmage Ludicrous wrote:
In post 45, iraonavp wrote:

a bit fishy

Which?


Those two adjectives apply to two different things.

I think it's ridiculous to want to lynch someone for not having an avatar, and I think that the justification of "well they know the effect it can have because they've been around so long so it's clearly malicious" is a bit fishy.

You're right, I should've used "a bit fishy" and "to come even close to buying that argument" instead.

What you said still doesn't make sense anyway. How is anything heretical, but its justification just "fishy"?

You said your vote on me was 'not very RVS,' can you clarify why?

Because I think is scummy posturing. The way that you make your point sounds insincere. The phrases that I quoted was a way to exemplify this. Other examples in that post could be the rhetorical question and the way that you take camn semi-seriously on something that's obviously a joke, to make her seem scummy.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:03 pm

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In post 161, Katsuki wrote:Lynch Thur, he will flip scum and so will KTS.

You suck. I don't trust you at all.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:05 pm

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In post 57, DeathRowKitty wrote:I'm actually a bit suspicious of iraonavp for this bizarre justification of their vote. It *looks* like the kind of thing one would bring up while conf-biased and yet it's the reasoning he's giving for
initially
finding someone scummy.

That wasn't justification for my vote, don't get ahead of yourself.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:09 pm

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In post 88, Ircher wrote:
In post 78, DeathRowKitty wrote:There were 50 posts between that post and your previous, some of which contained real votes and one of which contained a miller claim. Do you not have opinions on any of it?

Not now, maybe later.

Alright, maybe a little -- The miller claim seemed strange, but nothing to do about it right now.

Scummy strange?
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:15 pm

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In post 122, Aristophanes wrote:Who is the miller? Do we lynch them D2 if they are not vigged? (Protip: the correct answer is "yes")

No, fuck off.

To be honest though, I should've responded to my role PM telling RC to fuck off. Miller is such a shitty role since people will just claim it d1 and cause all this WIFOM. Godfathers are much better than millers if you want to make a cop's results unreliable, imo.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:20 pm

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In post 160, Killthestory wrote:Thurhame is town. Snarky is scum. Camn is VI Town. Katsuki is VI Town or scum, leaning scum. Aristo is most likely town.

This game was too easy.

Then stop voting Thurhame.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:21 pm

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In post 184, iraonavp wrote:
In post 160, Killthestory wrote:Thurhame is town. Snarky is scum. Camn is VI Town. Katsuki is VI Town or scum, leaning scum. Aristo is most likely town.

This game was too easy.

Then stop voting Thurhame.

Nevermind, I missed you changing your vote when I skimmed your ISO.
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:22 pm

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In post 180, iraonavp wrote:
In post 161, Katsuki wrote:Lynch Thur, he will flip scum and so will KTS.

You suck. I don't trust you at all.

I do trust you in the sense of not wanting to lynch you, but I don't trust your reads.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:23 pm

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In post 103, The Archmage Ludicrous wrote:UNVOTE: camn

VOTE: duppin

duppin needs to talk more, so vote. This is the most I've seen of them:

In post 59, duppin wrote:I'm not sure I believe the miller claim. I think it's a pretty silly play as scum but on the other hand if you do intend to claim miller you have to do it early on so yeah.

In post 37, Thurhame wrote:Why shouldn't he be?

We're passed the RVS stage. What's your opinion on things such as the Kitty wagon, camn's stance on lurkers, Almost50's wagon-for-wagon's-sake, my opinion of Aristo, or iraonavp's complete abscense?


Weird response to obvious fluff. Honestly most of your posts sound like scum fishing for town credit.

VOTE: Thurthame

I'd like to do this for now.



I don't like the first couple sentences, especially. It says nothing while attempting to appear to have an opinion on something. "I don't believe it but it would be silly as scum but it makes sense if he's telling the truth" makes my head spin. Attempting to have an opinion on something while not actually committing one way or another is a scumtell in my book.

what a shitty post

In post 105, The Archmage Ludicrous wrote:


I bow to your wisdom.

what a shitty post

In post 119, The Archmage Ludicrous wrote:
In post 110, duppin wrote:
Spoiler: My Quote
In post 103, The Archmage Ludicrous wrote:UNVOTE: camn

VOTE: duppin

duppin needs to talk more, so vote. This is the most I've seen of them:

In post 59, duppin wrote:I'm not sure I believe the miller claim. I think it's a pretty silly play as scum but on the other hand if you do intend to claim miller you have to do it early on so yeah.

In post 37, Thurhame wrote:Why shouldn't he be?

We're passed the RVS stage. What's your opinion on things such as the Kitty wagon, camn's stance on lurkers, Almost50's wagon-for-wagon's-sake, my opinion of Aristo, or iraonavp's complete abscense?


Weird response to obvious fluff. Honestly most of your posts sound like scum fishing for town credit.

VOTE: Thurthame

I'd like to do this for now.



I don't like the first couple sentences, especially. It says nothing while attempting to appear to have an opinion on something. "I don't believe it but it would be silly as scum but it makes sense if he's telling the truth" makes my head spin. Attempting to have an opinion on something while not actually committing one way or another is a scumtell in my book.


What is this even supposed to mean?

I don't know if I believe the miller claim, it's fairly simple. I think it is possible he is the miller, but it could definitely be a scum play as well. That is not the same thing as not commiting and that's a really silly statement from you. I simply shared my opinion on the miller claim, something which you (oh the irony) did not, so I'd actually like to what you think about it.

In any case I'm okay with my current vote.

@Thurhame, can you explain your read on camn?


I understand your position, it's just that I always find it suspicious when someone states a non-position (I'm not sure if I believe it = healthy suspicion, but not confidence one way or the other) and justifies it with easily extrapolated information that doesn't suggest too much one way or the other (It's what a miller would do if claiming early, but could also be a scum play) is more likely scum than those who don't.

There's nothing wrong with sharing your opinion. In fact, sharing opinions is great, and you should do it more! Which is why I voted for you, since I wanted more activity from you. Fire under the heels, and the like.

I don't think it's ironic that I haven't shared my opinion on the miller claim. My criticism of the way you phrased your opinion versus my having one or not isn't ironically related. You could make a case that it's hypocritical, but I'd maintain that it isn't.

My opinion on the miller claim, if you'd like to know, is complete apathy. A miller claim on its own means nothing. More interested in ira's complete lack of doing anything interesting, and totally unexplained vote on me.

what a shitty post
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:55 pm

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In post 180, iraonavp wrote:
In post 161, Katsuki wrote:Lynch Thur, he will flip scum and so will KTS.

You suck. I don't trust you at all.


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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:56 pm

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In post 188, Katsuki wrote:BEST SCUM PERFORMANCE

Oh, so I was wrong about you being town?
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:57 pm

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Well considering my current scummy is literally for best scum... >.>b
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:59 pm

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Almost50, do you have any other scumreads that didn't completely 100%/100 confirm themselves as confirmed town through a neighbor claim?
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:07 pm

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Thurhame might appear awkward because he doesn't understand or is pretending not to understand things about site meta like millers and neighbors. I think he is town though for some reason. He sounds genuinely indignant, I think.

And I could see your push for a quickhammer as a transparently scum-aligned action that everyone will just write off as town-aligned, because I don't think Thurhame has looked scum-aligned enough to warrant that really. Like, I don't look at those posts you responded to and start thinking to myself in all caps that Thurhame is scum-aligned.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:08 pm

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No his stances are scummy as fuck.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:10 pm

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Fate Mafia and Psychic Mafia should be required reading for all new players.

We town-swept Fate Mafia in 3hrs RL time total, including catching scum in pre-game pg1. Then Psychic Mafia, which actually won BEST TOWN, lasted 1.5days RL.

The fact Fate Mafia didn't win a scummy was a travesty, but quick-lynching when you have caught scum is pro-town.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:33 pm

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Iraon is hilarious.

Katsuki I could give a fuck less about what you have. Stop being useless or replace out
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:35 pm

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I don't think you have caught any scum-aligned players though.

I wonder how many times you've mislynched someone doing things like that, or used it while scum-aligned and have everyone read you as town-aligned for it.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:36 pm

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I bet quite a few Iraon. It's easy to push a mislynch, and then use WIFOM city to defend yourself. Although I don't feel like it's the case with Katsuki since they're most likely misguided town, it could be a thing.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:39 pm

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In post 197, Killthestory wrote:I bet quite a few Iraon. It's easy to push a mislynch, and then use WIFOM city to defend yourself. Although I don't feel like it's the case with Katsuki since they're most likely misguided town, it could be a thing.

Why do you think they're most likely misguided town? If I were town in your position, I don't think I'd be able to tell the difference.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:41 pm

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In post 198, iraonavp wrote:
In post 197, Killthestory wrote:I bet quite a few Iraon. It's easy to push a mislynch, and then use WIFOM city to defend yourself. Although I don't feel like it's the case with Katsuki since they're most likely misguided town, it could be a thing.

Why do you think they're most likely misguided town? If I were town in your position, I don't think I'd be able to tell the difference.

I've played a lot of mafia. Katsuki's aggression comes from a town mindset, but they're pushing the wrong person for somewhat right reasoning. Gut says they're town, too.

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