Mini 1771 - Legend of Zelda Mafia: Storm the Castle Endgame

[Nahdia]

pisskop i'm trying to hear you out. are you saying he could be a scum refiller or are you saying his flavor could be a different ability altogether?

[Nahdia]

im really confused by 3220 i feel like there was a typo in there or something

[Nahdia]

oooook. so the disconnect here is that i'm sort of gathering from "Shopkeeper" & "Replenish" that him being a refiller would be confirmed, but you're not making that logical assumption. got it.

[Nahdia]

@pisskop well regardless of what alignment it is, the shopkeeper with an ability named "Replenish" really sounds like a refiller to me. so yes, I feel safe in making that assumption.

@Sensei Firebringer/Cakez/you

[Nahdia]

I think phoenix and fire both haven't.

So nahdia could BG phoenix while pisskop flavor cops him and then tomorrow considering everything's all hunky dory PK claims what Phoenix's ability name is. And then go from there essentially.

the major hitch is for this to work we NEED to lynch the roleblocker (if there is one) today.

[Nahdia]

Don't commit to Sensei. If scum knows he's not going to commute, he'll get killed.

[Nahdia]

that would be my preference.

[Nahdia]

And put double protects on PW or is that stupid?

if we don't lynch a roleblocker, it's the only way to ensure we get another result out of PW.

if we do lynch a roleblocker, I'll just guard Phoenix and pisskop can flavorcop someone

[Nahdia]

Pisskop: 1shot doc Noncon flavor cop: n1 Dwlee = Shopkeeper with ability Replenish. Kid era.

Sensei: 1-shot lynchproof 1-shot commute

Xkfyu: lazy cop

SirCakez: Loved Neighborizer

Dwlee99: Refiller

Nahdia: 1shot BG 2shot BP

Phoenix Wright: Tracker: n1 sensei NV, n2 Fiebringer NV

Firebringer: Gladiator, second "unclaimed" aspect of role

[Nahdia]

would lynch nahdia just because of how they tricked me so hard in that newbie in lylo (the two town I was stuck with were kinda useless and I was interacting with two scum the entire time so idk) but I'd definitely lynch them just for that before lylo so I don't have to deal with that stuff.

fearlynches are bad, dude....

[Nahdia]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=65431

[Nahdia]

oh. idk, I guess I just assumed they had daychat for no reason o_o

[Nahdia]

well pisskop can't flavocop PW anymore lol

flavorcop SirCakez imo

dwlee I think you're misunderstanding.

[Nahdia]

isn't scum winrate on the newbie setup like 90% or something

[Nahdia]

yeah i had daytalk lmao and my partner was the IC and town was full of lurkers and there was only 1 town PR. it was a heavily lopsided game.

back on topic: SirCakez why do you want a Firebringer lynch today? do you have a read on them or are you just for lynching the null?

[Nahdia]

so you'd prefer that flip over Xkfyu?

[Nahdia]

He thinks their roles could co-exist since they're both weak (one is a 1-shot, the other is lazy).

[Nahdia]

I'm answering for him because this same conversation has happened multiple times btw...

[Nahdia]

Which begs the question of why the differences in power between ari and cakes' neighbor doesn't lead him to the same conclusion - that it's possible they could coexist.

Talk about reads being convenient.

actually yeah Sensei brings up a REALLY good point. Xkfyu, if you're an alignment cop beeboy should have been essentially confirmed scum to you.

Why? Because there couldn't have possibly been a 1-Shot Cop along with my role which, at best, gets a result every 2 night phases?

hey now. if you're gonna say Ari's neighborize that only works Link conflicts with SirCakez 3-member-cap unlimited neighborize then uhh... yeah. this should of been a conflict to u lol

Xkfyu the point is you seemed fairly unsure about Beeboy yourself.

I was, and you know what? I'm not even going to bother explaining it any further because it's very easy to see how a 1-Shot Cop could coexist with my, relatively weak, Cop role.

and yet SirCakez' neighborizer can't co-exist with Ari's very weak neighborizer?

Alignment Cop is inherently a town role. Neighbourizer is not. In fact, it's usually the case that two neighbourizers in the same game are of opposite alignments.

Why do I have to keep explaining this?

[Nahdia]

fwiw i'm not convinced by Xkfyu's answers but there they are

@Dwlee there's no role mechanic CC between them though i would say it's likely one is scum and the other is town from my reads standpoint anyway

[Nahdia]

My feelings atm:

Phoenix Wright is town
Dwlee is town

Sensei is the dark horse candidate

Firebringer leans scum

Xkfyu/SirCakez at least one is scum (leaning towards Xkfyu atm but both have pinged me today)
Xkfyu/pisskop at least one is scum (far more inclined to believe pisskop is town)

[Nahdia]

I guess I could be wrong on Phoenix and that would throw things for a loop but I haven't had any particular problem with him all game and his claim was really believable. and if Xkfyu does flip town, Phoenix is clear anyway.

p-edit: As SirCakez has suggested, I believe one of the investigative roles is scum. 3 seems like a bit much. If Phoenix is town, it follows that pisskop or Xkfyu is scum.

As I've stated a few times, I believe pisskop is town atm because:
1) He claimed doc, I have a macho modifier
2) His flavorcop would be redundant with the rolecop

[Nahdia]

Okay so nahdia wanna use that thing you used where you group players you think could or could not be scum together to determine where the scum is or something like that?

In truth, that method is really unreliable when you're not in, say, 5-man lylo. I don't think I can reduce the lynch pool enough, especially with Firebringer's lurk slot.

[Nahdia]

i really doubt there's a godfather with such a weak alignment cop (assuming it's real). so basically the only way Phoenix can be scum is if Xkfyu is scum with him. we'll cross that bridge if/when we come to it, but Xkfyu lynch comes first.

[Nahdia]

Okay so nahdia wanna use that thing you used where you group players you think could or could not be scum together to determine where the scum is or something like that?

Xkfyu/pisskop at least one is scum (far more inclined to believe pisskop is town)

why and why?

Because Nahdia is prob PK's scum buddy

this is a joke, right?

@Dwlee extremely doubtful

[Nahdia]

1) He claimed doc, I have a macho modifier
2) His flavorcop would be redundant with the rolecop

Why are you taking his claim at face value?

1) No one else claimed doc. My macho modifier suggests (though admittedly not confirms) there's another town protective role; he's the only one to claim it.
2)vI predicted he was a flavor cop. It fits his play.

I've noticed pisskop has been pretty quick to ask claimants about their flavor through the game (or maybe it only happened once? but I definitely took note of it). Are you a flavor cop?

[Nahdia]

If PW isn't alive tomorrow then at least one of nahdia and PK is scum.

is this assuming Xkfyu flips town?

[Nahdia]

PW is town regardless of Xk's flip.

Doesn't answer my question.

[Nahdia]

oh wait you're saying because we'll be expected to double protect PW?

[Nahdia]

if we hit roleblocker we could also do

Nahdia (BP) -> pisskop -> Phoenix

Sensei commutes

Forces scum to kill in: Dwlee/SirCakez/Firebringer
although that doesn't work if our lynch doesn't flip RB

p-edit: Dwlee can't refill tonight.

[Nahdia]

............................

[Nahdia]

wait so your flavor cop was last night? i assumed it was n1...

[Nahdia]

the fact that pisskop was able to doc and flavorcop in the same night basically disqualifies the whole "SirCakez isn't the roleblocker because he neighborized Cookies n1" thing.

[Nahdia]

Not that I think that changes much for now... just throwing it out there. we just really need to hit the roleblocker today :\

if it's noncon that means it can go tonight, since they blocked dwlee n1.

[Nahdia]

imo if Xk flips scum, check Firebringer again.

[Nahdia]

or check SirCakez, but SC should say who he's neighborizing in advanced

[Nahdia]

Phoenix you know only one scum moves when a kill is made, right? I only bring this up because it's a change in mechanics from my home site which I had to adjust to and I'm not sure if you're an alt or if your join date is real.

[Nahdia]

a firebringer check is good tonight if Xkfyu flips scum because...

1) Scum has to kill. If they don't, they give us an extra mislynch
2) That in mind, with only one scum left, trackers essentially give guilty/innocent reports. Getting a reliable report on Firebringer would be really helpful imo since he's the biggest unknown factor here

[Nahdia]

If Xkfyu DOESN'T flip scum well... you're probably dead.

It's up to you; you probably shouldn't announce your track purely because it might make scum decide to gamble on giving us an extra ML by no killing rather than getting tracked.

[Nahdia]

so who isn't voting Xkfyu and why not?

do we want to wait for Firebringer to return from the war before we lynch?

[Nahdia]

Way I see it, the only thing really left for today is to sort Firebringer and get him to give his full claim.

[Nahdia]

dunno how to feel about another BP claim. the townvig was a strongkill scum!BP is kind of odd? but maybe that's the reason for it actually, come to think of it.

[Nahdia]

does bulletproof only work at nights?

Cookies seemed to think so.

[Nahdia]

I've never really bought the whole "I expect this PR to play this certain way" thing. People play like they play.

[Nahdia]

this is my least favorite part

[Nahdia]

We should still lynch this imo. Yes, he towntold when the hammer was over his head. Everyone does.

[Nahdia]

I've definitely thought about Sensei being scum. It could still be a thing.

I'm still pretty much OK with this. Xkfyu has really been on the defensive recently and only now has suggested any alternative lynch. His vote is even a "self-preservation" vote.

I mean, I really don't think pisskop is scum here. I guess I could be wrong about the whole "there's a scum in the investigative claims", idk.

[Nahdia]

You're vote is on PK btw SirCakez... Xkfyu is still at L-1. Not that I'm saying you should hammer him right now, but the thread isn't about to lock.

[Nahdia]

Your*

Firebringer was probably right that I should stop trying to guess the mod. Still though this is probably who I would lynch out of everyone.

[Nahdia]

Nah, you're not hammered yet. At L-1, by my count.

His vote is even a "self-preservation" vote.

I make no secret that I believe town should vote in self-preservation when faced with a lynch, with the exception of in a few rare circumstances.

I can respect that but you've made no statements as to who is scum as of late until now when you're sitting at L-1. You've just been slyly pointing out possibly scummy things in a few people.

Sensei, Nahdia, Dwlee, Phoenix

that's only 4, we need 5 to lynch. pisskop and SC are voting each other I think?

[Nahdia]

I've gone back and fourth on SirCakez today but meh.

SirCakez who are you going to neighborize?

[Nahdia]

Inb4 PK wants me lynched because if Xk is lynched it will out him as scum

We don't know that one of the three investigative roles is scum.

[Nahdia]

I've gone back and fourth on SirCakez today but meh.

SirCakez who are you going to neighborize?

I'm not going to answer that wtf

What if you happen to neighborize the kill target and Phoenix happens to track you?

Answer it. There's 0 reason not to.

[Nahdia]

Well if he visits two different people........

[Nahdia]

SirCakez claimed "Loved" btw, although as this is mylo it might have turned off.

[Nahdia]

oh you're right im getting ahead of myself mb.

so you'll need 6 votes to lynch him.

[Nahdia]

I mean, I see no harm trying. But I don't see why scum can't be Loved.

[Nahdia]

Scum can be loved/hated. They're usually town but it's not universal.

[Nahdia]

The reason I don't want to say who I'm neighborizing is because then they become a kill target :/
You can test it if you really want but scum quick hammer is a good possibility.

Well, if scum has a strongkill they're killing Phoenix anyway. So I'm not going to die. Nor is Firebringer.

[Nahdia]

Xkfyu will be earlier in the wagon. We have a ML, so scum quickhammering will confirm them as scum tomorrow at the cost of getting rid of SirCakez who isn't exactly the universal townread.

[Nahdia]

Because he forgot SirCakez claimed Loved and I just brought it up.........??

[Nahdia]

^

[Nahdia]

It was a really dumb question.

[Nahdia]

Cakez being loved doesn't confirm him as town by any means >_>

[Nahdia]

This is almost definitely a waste of time.

[Nahdia]

If you guys manage to get a SirCakez wagon to 4 I'll quickly place the 5th vote and remove it, but for now my vote stays. This feels frivolous, I can't imagine anyone fakeclaiming something so easily testable.

[Nahdia]

There's only 1 scum besides Cakez. You don't know their mindset. Maybe they're not even posting rn. Maybe they just don't want all those votes to transition to their buddy, regardless of it being a "test".

[Nahdia]

Only 1 scum besides Cakez assuming he's scum that is.

[Nahdia]

No.

[Nahdia]

I think as either alignment, regardless of my partner, I'd see that as frivolous. Loved isn't an alignment indicative modifier to me and scum fakeclaiming something so testable is laughable.

I don't think SirCakez lied about his claim.

For all we know you have a double-vote or something akin to that up your sleeve. Xkfyu.

[Nahdia]

The only person whose role claim is seriously cast into suspicion here is you, Xkfyu. Everyone else I believe their claim, though their alignment is still up in the air.

[Nahdia]

Well actually, I'm not super confident in Sensei's claim. I'd still like to test that lynchproof if we're in even numbers tomorrow.

[Nahdia]

pisskop; doc is believable because I have macho, and flavor cop lines up with his play to the point where i guessed his role before he claimed it
dwlee; pisskop confirms his ability name is "Replenish". sounds like a refiller to me
SirCakez; we have verification from Cookies (dead town) that he is a neighborizer. Loved I can't see scum fakeclaiming.
Phoenix; both tracks were on point and also it's just really unlikely for him to be scum here
Firebringer; no one would ever fakeclaim gladiator. the BP claim I guess could be fake but gladiator is 100% real

Sensei; the beeboy saying there's no way he could be scum thing could be wifom. this is the only other claim I have significant doubts about
Xkfyu; no real reason to believe your claim or disbelieve it. it is what it is. we already have two investigative roles which i strongly believe are real though, which makes your claim seem a bit eh.

[Nahdia]

Come on, Nahdia. Think about it. All that stuff I was saying in D2 about how could you not believe that there was a more powerful PR than what beeboy had claimed. I was trying to make you think about an ACTUAL cop.

I looked over that interaction and like, that would of been the perfect opportunity to crumb or something esp. because it's clear you weren't going to die. but you didn't. instead it kind of just looks like the claim came after the interaction and now you're pointing back at it since you made the claim hoping it would fit.

flavor cop does strike me as overall useless.

Zelda had abilities that could have easily been given to town.

there might be some uses for it if a ability name doesn't match up at all what they're claiming.

[Nahdia]

it's like, "oh man i should claim alignment cop because i can totally point out that interaction i had with nahdia" but it's not selling me :\ I know you've said you believed the roles could co-exist, but I still really think you would have been more certain on beeboy had you been in the mindset of an alignment cop at the time.

[Nahdia]

pisskop; doc is believable because I have macho, and flavor cop lines up with his play to the point where i guessed his role before he claimed it
dwlee; pisskop confirms his ability name is "Replenish". sounds like a refiller to me
SirCakez; we have verification from Cookies (dead town) that he is a neighborizer. Loved I can't see scum fakeclaiming.
Phoenix; both tracks were on point and also it's just really unlikely for him to be scum here

Firebringer; no one would ever fakeclaim gladiator.

the BP claim I guess could be fake but gladiator is 100% real

Sensei; the beeboy saying there's no way he could be scum thing could be wifom. this is the only other claim I have significant doubts about
Xkfyu; no real reason to believe your claim or disbelieve it. it is what it is. we already have two investigative roles which i strongly believe are real though, which makes your claim seem a bit eh.

That's not true. Someone did it in a recent game and the mod proved they were lying with the vote count soon after that lol

ok yes that was me but that was a joke.

lol.

gladiator is not a specifically town rolr

I know it's not I'm just saying the role itself is probably real; but not the alignment

SirCakez claimed "Loved" btw, although as this is mylo it might have turned off.

This post gives me the creeps.

ive been thinking through a bunch of scenarios in my head and just got it in my head that this is mylo. i promise i'm not a serial killer

[Nahdia]

Xk was making the point that there are probably fakeclaims so my response was the point out the only claims that look possibly fake fmpov

@SirCakez I kinda thought he might have a hidden second vote or something =P

[Nahdia]

more pointless setup guessing but come to think of it; where's the triforce of power? we've seen the other two.

[Nahdia]

i'm thinking ahead lol

i dont know how much more i can do to make myself obvious town tbh

[Nahdia]

btw I looked over pisskop's ISO because yesterday i was kind of null on them and my feelings on them today are largely setup speculative and yeah im p sure pisskop is town

[Nahdia]

I mean, to be fair, I watched PhantomCobalt fake a reaction of that exact type (pretending to think he was hammered) as town in my newbie game.

[Nahdia]

It was pretty freakin' hilarious when 10 posts later no one was convinced and he actually got hammered and he was like "well I guess pretending I was hammered didn't work =(" and the town assumed it was a scumclaim and celebrated until the mod came in to start the night

[Nahdia]

Sensei are you saying you have a read on Cakez now or you're still developing it?

[Nahdia]

Neighbor me please. There's a good reason for this and also short of a strongkill I'm essentially unkillable.

[Nahdia]

Phoenix should not announce his track.

Don't target Sensei though.

I'll guard Phoenix.
pisskop should check Firebringer to verify flavor cop. This is the best choice because Firebringer is unclear but also with BP, highly unlikely to die tonight.
Dwlee can't act tonight.
Sensei from this point on you shouldn't disclose if/when you're using/you used your commute. If scum fails to kill any night, they give us an extra lynch. You're a likely kill target but as long as there's that distinct possibility you'll be untargetable, they likely won't risk it.
Anyone I'm forgetting?

[Nahdia]

Well actually I guess you could target Sensei, since a potential "no result" is basically the same as no-visit.

[Nahdia]

Im choosing between the poeple who havent claimed role power names yet.

Sensei, fire, and cakez

Sensei may end up being untargetable so i wouldn't recommend him. I would rec fire for the reason I stated but I guess either is fine.

If I announce it then can't the scum just kill my target? It's better if I'm the only one who knows who I'm going to look at

exactly i said you shouldn't announce it :p

[Nahdia]

On trackable targets;

pisskop and SirCakez are expected to move tonight. Personally I feel it would be best for both of them to visit one of the bulletproof claims (myself/Firebringer) because otherwise we have the possibility of a false positive (ie pisskop/SirCakez visiting someone who dies but really they were just rolecopping/neighborizing).

Dwlee & Firebringer should not have any movement with their claims.

Sensei could come up as "no result" but if you do choose to track him again and get a no result, you should announce it as No Visit regardless to keep scum in the dark about the status of Sensei's commute.

I'm going to be visiting you, Phoenix. Notably, tracking me is kind of pointless because if I'm fake, you're going to die.

[Nahdia]

please let this flip scum oh my god

[Nahdia]

Shoulda guarded cookies last night -_-' bah

[Nahdia]

If we're ever going to No Lynch we should just test Sensei's unlynchable claim.

[Nahdia]

Dwlee, I want some clarification.

Night 1, what did you do?

[Nahdia]

Dwlee I thought you couldn't refill tonight. What happened to you being noncon?

[Nahdia]

Ok so we're not lynching Dwlee today but I still want answers to him. The whole noncon thing is out the window?

[Nahdia]

Why would you lie about that... what's the point...

Waiting intently on Phoenix's results. Probably should of gotten those before, you know, you issued a challenge, Firebringer...

[Nahdia]

For the record, Xkfyu claimed his role incorrectly. Not saying I didn't fuck up on my read on him, but he actually could of continued to alignment-cop every night as long as his target, Phoenix, stayed alive. If I had known he was going to get another check last night I'd like to think I would have opted to lynch elsewhere...

I strongly doubt there's a godfather when we have a weakened cop. I mean, setup spec, but that's just really mean. Also Phoenix is just v towny.

[Nahdia]

Well I mean it is mylo and supposedly you refilled the doc. That means we still have one or two saves depending on who we lynch just in case these are both town :p

[Nahdia]

if scum have a roleblock, why did they kill Sensei and let Phoenix live? that doesn't make much sense to me.

@pisskop any results from last night..?

[Nahdia]

what the hell? they blocked the flavor cop?????????

[Nahdia]

Ok, everyone stay chill and don't vote until we hear from Phoenix. if pisskop is blocked that means he's gotta have something.

@pisskop There's a conftown Tracker, no offense but you probably wouldn't be the first on my list of priorities to roleblock last night.

[Nahdia]

Fair point, but on the other hand, well...

SirCakez visited Dwlee
Dwlee visited pisskop
Firebringer does not visit
I didn't visit
Pisskop who did you visit (do roleblocked actions still show a visit?)

Anything that falls outside that, especially a visit to Sensei or a visit to you besides Dwlee, is incriminating. Even if they have a ninja, tracker could find the roleblocker visiting you. It seems like such an unnecessary risk to block a flavor cop of all things...

[Nahdia]

The only move woulda been to block Phoenix, and the only way they would of tried to hit Phoenix is if they were going to roleblock me. May as well hold onto the guard. /shrug

[Nahdia]

I like how Firebringer assumes from my statement that I instantly disbelieved it, and SirCakez assumes from my statement I instantly believed it. When really, neither was intrinsic to my statement and you're both just misrepping me lmao

[Nahdia]

They prob didn't roleblock so that PK could claim it to be rbed as an out since he's not actually a flavor cop.

Dude have you read his play from before he claimed at all? He's clearly a flavor cop.

[Nahdia]

It was literally to the point where I guessed his role before he claimed it. Unless he planned that claim waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay ahead, it's a real claim. Doesn't mean anything about his alignment though.

@Firebringer you would be told if you lost a BP-shot. i asked 3dice and he said as much

SirCakez could you actually respond to the fact that he was asking people for specific flavor claims and such before days before he claimed his role, clearly softing flavor cop?

[Nahdia]

I'm going to town case myself a bit here but literally if I was scum there's no way I'd let the roleblocker block a fucking flavor cop, or even let my partner pretend to be roleblocked WHEN THERE'S A CONFTOWN TRACKER

[Nahdia]

SirCakez you're coming across as really fake today. I have no idea how you're so sure this early into the day. I should honestly be blatant town. You really think BOTH protective role claims are scum? Seriously?

[Nahdia]

Well that's pretty unfreakin helpful Phoenix -_-'

[Nahdia]

You know what? I think it's a SirCakez/Firebringer team. SirCakez honestly shouldn't be this confident coming into today. I had awful vibes on him yesterday and am having sooo much trouble seeing him as town today with his attitude right out of the gate.

I'm just trying to sort if he's bussing or what. Currently not thinking so

Phoenix I'm not mad at you I'm just frustrated that we're getting so punked this game.

[Nahdia]

This feels like a setup. SirCakez kept going on yesterday about how if Xkfyu was town, PK was confirmed scum because one of the investigative claims was scum. And admittedly I bought it, but honestly I really felt Xkfyu was scum there and I'm having a hard time imagining PK as scum even with Xkfyu's flip.

Then Firebringer marches into today and instantly challenges PK, and SirCakez instantly starts pushing on him. This feels like a coordinated effort to seal the win today....

[Nahdia]

I really freaking wish Firebringer didn't issue that challenge...

wow Firebringer echo'ing SirCakez sentiments exactly. nice.

[Nahdia]

Again; you guys are insisting on a team of BOTH PROTECTIVE ROLE CLAIMS. in a game where we've had an alignment cop and a tracker. you really think town has ZERO protection???

You know what? I think it's a SirCakez/Firebringer team. SirCakez honestly shouldn't be this confident coming into today. I had awful vibes on him yesterday and am having sooo much trouble seeing him as town today with his attitude right out of the gate.

I'm just trying to sort if he's bussing or what. Currently not thinking so

Phoenix I'm not mad at you I'm just frustrated that we're getting so punked this game.

Yeah this is also terrible. Why no mention of these vibes yesterday?

Like all of Nahdia's posts today are defenses of Pisskop and chainsawing Fire and me. Not hard to see who the scum is.

UM EXCUSE ME DO YOU HAVE AMNESIA? I WAS VOTING YOU FOR A LARGE PART OF YESTERDAY.

[Nahdia]

Xfkyu sure that Dwlee was scum. Do you think he was right?

He thought Dwlee was Sensei's scumpartner. So no, not really.

[Nahdia]

Spoiler: Eat Me

yeah that fits their claim exactly. i kinda guessed as much.

my thoughts are lynch in SirCakez/pisskop/FireBringer

we arent doing that.

why not? we apparently have two investigative roles, scum can't kill both. what's the problem with testing the unlynchable claim? i believe if he really is unlynchable he's probably town but that could easily be a scumclaim.

come to think of it my macho modifier makes pisskop's doc claim p good fmpov. FireBringer/SirCakez?

xk claimed delayed alignment cop (spends 2 nights to get a result)

{pisskop, Phoenix Wright}
{Sensei, Dwlee99}
{Xkfyu}
{FireBringer}
{SirCakez}

VOTE: SirCakez

You tried advocating lynching an unlynchable

I still don't think that's an awful idea but whatever.

you fingered Sircakez as a main scumread and now he isnt even in your lynch pool

Assuming you're talking about this post

assuming we trust Phoenix, the roleblocker is most likely in in

Myself/Xkfyu/pisskop

eeuughhh....

That's not a lynchpool, it's just logic on where the roleblocker likely is if there is one. SirCakez is still my top scumread. there's two scum left yaknow.

and youve laregly left xk alone today

I've liked him a lot more today than I did yesterday.

I've liked him a lot more today than I did yesterday.

Why?

Why are you voting cakes?

Xkfyu's play has been good today. SirCakez' hasn't.

[Nahdia]

Also cakes is either town or scum who game threw because I've never gotten a read wrong on a neighbor.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

[Nahdia]

What's that even supposed to mean?

[Nahdia]

Hi pisskop :\

Phoenix, this is a setup. SirCakez' confident isn't the slightest bit natural.

[Nahdia]

Confidence is one thing but you're freaking robotic dude. I'm not discrediting I'm pointing out, step the hell off.

I'll say it again. Do you honestly believe BOTH protective roles this game are the scum team? Does anyone???

@Phoenix Wright Ok but why pisskop? I'm looking at Firebringer & SirCakez today and like I said it honestly looks like a coordinated effort.

[Nahdia]

Ok, no protective roles. Then tell me; why did Mirhawk die instead of the confirmed town n1? Why did Phoenix live last night?

[Nahdia]

The kills paint a very different picture than the team you're pushing.

[Nahdia]

@Phoenix Wright Ok but why pisskop? I'm looking at Firebringer & SirCakez today and like I said it honestly looks like a coordinated effort.

sell me on this coordinated effort theory

Consider yesterday. SirCakez pushed his agenda of "one of the three investigative claims is scum" and said on at least one occasion that if Xkfyu flips town, pisskop is confirmed scum.

We start off today, and Firebinger IMMEDIATELY challenges pisskop. He made 0 posts on him yesterday, I checked. Maybe he reread overnight, but I have trouble believing that considering we've seen what a low level of commitment Firebringer has been giving to this game. I think SirCakez told him to do so. Notice both of them are pushing the same team right from the start; Myself/pisskop. It's too perfect IMO.

[Nahdia]

I made that argument before pisskop tried to self-hammer -_- I'm really not sure what to make of that.

[Nahdia]

SirCakez may of had the chance to hammer there. . . pisskop was at L-1 and he wasn't voting.

@Firebringer I'm sorry dude but I have a point. Could you maybe provide some like, specific examples of what clued you into this apparently 100% positive scumread you've got?

[Nahdia]

[Nahdia]

Not gonna let myself overthink this one anymore.

VOTE: Firebringer

Light bolts hover over you all day
Oh darkness can be difficult like needles in the hay
I need to flick the switch and show you how to hide
And love is not the answer if you're taking me for a
Riiiiiiide
For a riiiiiiide

[Nahdia]

vaguely nervous about a possible PK/SirCakez scumteam here since Cakez didn't autohammer but I don't really see SirCakez setting up his partner to be "confirmed scum" today fhpov and I still like pisskop individually. if i got punked i got punked.

[Nahdia]

>backtracking

im not unvoting bish.

[Nahdia]

Still waiting on Firebringer to provided reasons and examples so that I may reconsider his 100% scumread on pisskop being entirely fake.

[taps foot impatiently]

[Nahdia]

The neighborhood may be good, I wish I could see it (that's why I asked to be invited yesterday). But I can only judge SirCakez' play in the thread and honestly, it's incredibly scummy to me. And frankly, if he's not scum here I'm having trouble seeing who is. Maybe Dwlee and one of them?

[Nahdia]

The neighborhood may be good, I wish I could see it (that's why I asked to be invited yesterday). But I can only judge SirCakez' play in the thread and honestly, it's incredibly scummy to me. And frankly, if he's not scum here I'm having trouble seeing who is. Maybe Dwlee and one of them?

Yo, all I'm saying is FMPOV, unless we actually have a pisskop/Firebringer team (lmao), if SirCakez isn't scum you are. So yeah.

[Nahdia]

And Dwlee, quite frankly I don't think you're scum. And I don't think pisskop and Firebringer are a team. Sooo....

[Nahdia]

Like, the whole thing with lying about being able to refill again was iffy since I asked 3dice last night if a roleblocked noncon could act the next night and he said no. I was ready to jump into this day and start pushing you (notice I instantly asked you for clarification on your role) but you instantly jumping in today and saying you refilled pisskop made your lie (which I can totally see as a townmove tbf) very believable.

[Nahdia]

Seems to have backfired for you, didn't it?

Interestingly, right near the very end of the day yesterday, Phoenix was scumreading pisskop. So why would a scumteam including pisskop intentionally leave him alive, hmm? Seems to me more like you were banking on Phoenix's read being stubborn and him voting pisskop today as well~

[Nahdia]

Nahdia be less obvious as scum pls

You can say I'm obvious scum as many times as you want; that doesn't make it true.

Gladiator is an awesome role lmao

[Nahdia]

You'd think, with Firebringer being SO SURE of his read on pisskop, he would of jumped on the chance to give examples of what clued him into this scumread! What a shame he ignored my request in favor of just dropping so low quality AtE =(

[Nahdia]

He linked a game where he self-voted as town....?

[Nahdia]

I mean, stupid play. But he has a record of doing that so that's far from a "confirmed scum" move.

[Nahdia]

Dunno, I didn't read it that incredibly close?

Look, yeah, it was a dumb play. But by no means does it confirm anyone as scum. So stop pushing it like it does. I've considered my reads in light of that event, and my vote remains.

[Nahdia]

Please don't hammer at least for the next hour or so until I get back. There's some stuff I need to say but I don't have time atn

[Nahdia]

So here's where I'm at. Sorry if bad format or typos, I'm phone posting.

Firebringer sat at L-1 for a large amount of time. This is mylo yes and scum could be nervous about me making a save, but I think Dwlee at least could have justified hammering there if he was scum. SirCakez on the other hand definitely would have outted the scumteam if he hammered there and FB flipped town. But since scum seems to have a roleblock, they probably don't even need to worry about my guard.

That leads me to the conclusion that pisskop isn't a team with Dwlee, and almost definitely isn't a team with SirCakez just based on mechanics alone. And the interaction between them reeeaally doesn't look like bussing.

A Dwlee/SirCakez team doesn't make sense either. If that was the case, one SirCakez would not need to be playing so aggro. He and Dwlee could just sit back. And two, if that is the case, logically they would push the BP over the doc so they have more kill options.

The ONLY teams that fit fmpov are FireBringer/Dwlee, FireBringer/SirCakez, and FireBringer/pisskop. The first is incredibly unlikely because Dwlee chose to refill pisskop, the doc, which would really just be shooting himself in the foot if he's scum here. From the way the day has played out and also just from my individually reads on them, SirCakez/FireBringer is far more likely. But regardless, Firebringer is scum fmpov.

[Nahdia]

Have to go again but when I have the chance I'd really like to go over the night action game plan depending on FireBringer's flip. Please don't hammer before then.

UNVOTE:

Just unvoting so I know the we won't suddenly go into night.

[Nahdia]

So I've thought on it a bit more. I'm pretty sure I'm ready to call Dwlee conf town. If he's scum with pisskop, he had ample opportunity to hammer Firebringer. If he's scum with anyone else, why refill the doc???

And it fits. I mean, assuming it's not a pisskop/Firebringer team, one of Dwlee/SirCakez has to be scum. And since I've been scumreading SirCakez so much this game it just makes sense that Dwlee would be town in turn. I feel bad I fucked up on Xkfyu but this game is finally starting to come together for me.

And pisskop raises a great point about the kill actually. SirCakez claims leaving Phoenix alive is because he's easily manipulated, but that hasn't seemed to be the case to me. And in fact, the kill makes TOTAL sense from SirCakez/FireBringer perspective and NO sense from a pisskop/myself perspective. Sensei was town reading us not to mention he boasted he has never gotten a read on a neighbor wrong. Phoenix on the other hand was voting pisskop right before the day ended yesterday. The kills totally point towards that team or at the very least, away from the team SirCakez proposes.

[Nahdia]

As for the plan tonight:

If FireBringer flips roleblocker, I'll guard pisskop and pisskop saves Phoenix. This forces a kill on Dwlee/SirCakez which scum probably won't want to make at that point but the alternative is them giving town an extra mislynch.

If FireBringer flips scum but not roleblocker, pisskop be on Phoenix, I won't out who I'm on. Scum will probably go for broke and try to guess but if they block me to kill pisskop, Phoenix gets a track. If they block pisskop to kill Phoenix, I might be there and I'll give us an extra ML by taking the shot. In all honestly, I'll probably flip a coin.

[Nahdia]

@SirCakez maybe, but from the perspective of pisskop and I we couldn't of known that and still had Sensei townreading us. If we're the scumtean that kill still makes no sense, especially when you consider that I harped yesterday on Sensei not revealing when he uses his commute, making it more dangerous for scum to kill him and risk giving town a ML. I wouldn't take that risk, to be frank.

[Nahdia]

Above was in response to this

Sensei suggested a Nahdia/PK team in the hood

Notice SirCakez posting has 0 content today? He's just constantly making cheap attempts to discredit me with NO substance

[Nahdia]

Dwlee, you have access to the neighborhood right? Did Sensei say anything about whether he was using his commute last night??? Please check.

[Nahdia]

Try and back up any of those statements. Try to show how my posts today have come from a scum vantage point. You're being lazy and just making blank quips. NO ONE is confirmed scum here and yet you keep asserting as much. Town would be thinking far more than you are. You completely lack the paranoia that should be present for town in this situation. I see it in Dwlee, I see it in Phoenix, but not in you!

[Nahdia]

Dwlee I mean... maybe. That would be crazy but I guess you're coming to that conclusion because you townread SirCakez and myself? Or is there something in the interactions between them that makes you think that?

[Nahdia]

My reasons are fine. I have both logic and individual reads backing me up. What's ridiculous is trusting without any thought that Firebringer, who has neglected to put in any effort into this game so far, suddenly has a 100% scumread DESPITE HIM NOT GIVING A SINGLE CONCRETE REASON FOR SUCH.

[Nahdia]

Sooo your flawless, super towny argument to refute my heavy logic and reasoning is...... meta. SIIIIGH

look SirCakez, level with me. Regardless of the lynch today, will you please invite me to neighborhood? Dwlee seems convinced of you being town based on the contents of that and I'm townreading Dwlee so I'd like to see it.

[Nahdia]

I guess I understand that but I doubt pulling him into your hood will engage him more and depending on the flip, he'll likely die.

[Nahdia]

Dwlee, did you get any sort of notification that your refill was successful?

[Nahdia]

Here's another point.

At this point both Dwlee and pisskop have claimed roleblocked. SirCakez, you think the team in myself/pisskop, correct? So one of us is the roleblocker?

In WHAT WORLD do we opt to fake a roleblock on one of us? There's a freaking tracker and you think I wanted us to fake a roleblock? What possible benefit does that give us? It's an unnecessary risk which only hurts pisskops claim, why would I possibly instruct him to do that?

[Nahdia]

Here's a question..... if the SirCakez/Firebringer plan was to push on myself/pisskop as a team, and Sensei was suggesting a team of myself/pisskop.... why take that immense risk he might commute and try to kill him?

[Nahdia]

Dwlee I assume you can confirm Sensei was suggesting that possible team? If SirCakez knew that's where Sensei's head was at why kill him?

Why would they block the flavor cop of all things?

If I were scum, and I had a roleblock, and I wanted to kill the commuter.... I'd roleblock him :\

What the heck is going on here?

[Nahdia]

Why didn't SirCakez hammer pisskop? He had the freaking chance. Why didn't you dude? Why the hell did he self-vote so willingly?

[Nahdia]

Here's another point.

At this point both Dwlee and pisskop have claimed roleblocked. SirCakez, you think the team in myself/pisskop, correct? So one of us is the roleblocker?

In WHAT WORLD do we opt to fake a roleblock on one of us? There's a freaking tracker and you think I wanted us to fake a roleblock? What possible benefit does that give us? It's an unnecessary risk which only hurts pisskops claim, why would I possibly instruct him to do that?

Because he's not actually a flavor cop and he can't give a result on someone without being outed?

you've seen my point about him softing flavor cop as early as day 1, right? I mean, maybe, but it seems like he genuinely is that role. Do you think he was just crumbing as wifom?

[Nahdia]

The lack of a hammer is explainable but then why the roleblock on you? Why the kill on Sensei?

Phoenix has pisskop as visiting no one... which lines up with him being roleblocked. But then what happened to Sensei? The kill on him didn't even reveal his role PM... clearly some sort of shenanigans. But could one scum roleblock Sensei, kill him, and do whatever it was that caused him to not reveal by themselves? Surely that would of caused a visit, and yet they risked that with a tracker around they left untouched??

[Nahdia]

I'm just so confused because if Sensei was indeed saying the team was myself/pisskop in the hood, and he made no indication to SirCakez whether he was going to commute, that kill makes even less sense for Firebringer/SirCakez than it does for pisskop/myself

Oh ok. So he can't have been roleblocked. Guess that's out the window.

[Nahdia]

That just brings me back to why roleblock pisskop though? Nothing makes any freakin sense -_-

[Nahdia]

Killing Sensei was an incredible risk. Do we think scum really took that gamble, or did they maybe know Sensei had already used it? The only people who could know that based on role claims would be Phoenix and pisskop, and Phoenix is clear.

@can you please respond to the fact that he was softing flavorcop way earlier? I'm

trying

to reason through this because some stuff just doesn't add up but you just repeating the same thing over and over doesn't invoke much confidence in you!!!

[Nahdia]

Hitting Sensei was a gargantuan risk that I'm not sure I believe scum was willing to take that risk. If he commuted, they would be giving us another mislynch. I can't help but think scum KNEW he had already used it. If my understanding of mechanics is right though, wouldn't the only people that could know he commuted be investigative roles?

[Nahdia]

Uhg I'm probably overthinking this to hell and back. I don't understand the logic of this scumteam here....

[Nahdia]

@mod if an investigative role targeted a commuted player, what result would they get?

[Nahdia]

Oh wait crap. Sensei got added to the neighborhood n2. He never commuted.

[Nahdia]

Scum seriously went for broke? Jesus christ what the hell

[Nahdia]

Oh fuck off

[Nahdia]

Fuck it. If you were town here you would at least be

considering

the alternate possibilities like I am. Fuck it dude, you're scum.

[Nahdia]

If Xk is town this is some of the worst town play I've ever seen tbh.

this. At you.

You scumread me before I ever said anything about fire.

[Nahdia]

Your reads and logic are so basic it's like you're not even trying.

OK. I'm positive SirCakez is scum. I'm inclined to think he's with Firebringer but the fact that he killed Sensei and that he didn't hammer pisskop gives me a lot of second thoughts.

Firebringer it would be really nice if you would come back and give us you're reasons for your pisskop read. Please.

[Nahdia]

But if SirCakez is scum with pisskop he had the chance to hammer Firebringer.... which I mean yeah I have my guard but if he's willing to go for broke on Sensei...

[Nahdia]

We still have most of the day. I'm willing to wait for a bit to let fire explain his read. There's no reason to rush.

[Nahdia]

I don't see us no lynching though since I'm not unlikely to vote Firebringer and dwlee thinks they're both scum so he should be willing to vote either.

[Nahdia]

I mean, it could be a thing. It's a hell of a gambit, but whoever comes out of this challenge alive will be conf town essentially if the other flips scum. And since Firebringer claimed BP, there's plausible reason for him to never be nightkilled.

I don't know why you're so blindly accepting Firebringer is town, SirCakez. His day entrance totally could have been a set up. If not something you set up, something pisskop did. It would make sense why he selfvoted if that's the case actually.

[Nahdia]

But your refusal to recognize any alternate possibility makes me lose any reason to believe in you. If it is a pisskop/Firebringer team, you're their MVP...

[Nahdia]

Fire, please read the game. I've asked you multiple times to flesh out your read and all you do every time you show up is AtE. If you're town you're not doing us any favors.

[Nahdia]

Do you have any thoughts you will be sharing, or is that post above the longest one you;ll make this game?

Wow, you and Nahdia want to get a room where you two can just talk about how I don't play the game?
This is very irritating. I know your both basically scum, but seriously can you pull something else out of the book in an attempt to discredit me other than "Fire hasn't done anything"

News Flash: How does that even make me scum? Look at games I have been in, everyone. Same bs arguments used by scum each time to discredit me.

my point isn't that you've done nothing therfore you're scum. I've never said that. My point is that I have no reason whatsoever to believe your read. Your entrance to today looked forced and you claim to be incredibly sure but won't provide any reasons at all. I don't know that I believe you actually put in the effort to ISO pisskop so that's why I'm asking you to provide explanations.

Fire, please read the game. I've asked you multiple times to flesh out your read and all you do every time you show up is AtE. If you're town you're not doing us any favors.

No, I will not.
I don't need to read the full game to get a read on everyone.

please explain your read on pisskop. PLEASE.

[Nahdia]

I wasn't asking you to read the full game, I was asking you to read while you're a player so you'll know when people are asking you questions.

[Nahdia]

Explain your read on pisskop, Firebringer.

[Nahdia]

So did you ISO him overnight? When did you come to this conclusion?

[Nahdia]

So did you ISO him overnight? When did you come to this conclusion?

I did a quick skim after the lynch.

Ok then it's odd you say that he didn't talk to you considering he did..?

o.o

o/ FIRE

FIRE o/

you lurked out yesterday. and y did you claim

FIRE o/

you lurked out yesterday. and y did you claim

I didn't lurk out! Mod didn't post in thread that I replaced when I sent him role confirmation.
>.>

How are you buddy?

be better when you read

why did you claim?

Like, you lurked most of the day. What more was he supposed to say to you when you weren't even posting...?

[Nahdia]

I didn't lurk most of the day.
THats unture. This game is just hyper active that if I don't post every few minutes its like I am lurking.
>.>

I don't post in a game till modconfirms I replaced in. So if I remember right, I went to sleep as I confirmed role, and I left the site for several hours. THen come back and I get accused of lurking when I wasn't confirmed in game >.>

I didn't accuse you of lurking then, I'm accusing you of lurking now. Lose the victim complex.

[Nahdia]

And you didn't post much at all. I'm sorry if it wasn't technically "lurking" because you weren't here but the point is, you weren't posting much relative to other players. I'm not wrong.

[Nahdia]

And that's fine, but that's exactly my point. You didn't post much. When you did, pisskop talked to you. So your point that "pisskop didn't talk to me!" makes no sense because you didn't talk much, so why would he be talking to you when you're not saying anything?

I've ISO'd you and I'm failing to see development in your reads. You were townreading me prior; where is the scumread on me from? Looks like it came out of nowhere.

[Nahdia]

I'm sorry, but I just don't buy you being town. Your reads don't seem organic or real at all to me. A lot of your posting today has been AtE. When I finally get your attention, you can only back yourself up with meta which is both the easy way out and completely useless to me. I've tried to give you opportunities to show yourself as town and I'm just not seeing it.

VOTE: Firebringer

This is L-1.

SirCakez, if you're scum with pisskop you can just go ahead and hammer. I don't have my freaking guard, I used it already.

[Nahdia]

Sensei died Fire so no

Scum could have extra kill tho.
With 2 BP?
It makes sense to me.

notice how in this post, Firebringer implies both BP claims are town.

Not sure about Firebringer, but I've agree that Sircakez gives off bad vibes

Really?
You can't tell its Pisskop and most likely Nahdia btw this point?
Dwlee/Pisskop is a possibility but unlikely.

Most likely person Pisskop is with is Nahdia especially given her interactions with him today.

10 minutes later, he says I'm scum.

[Nahdia]

Christ dude.

[Nahdia]

I'm sorry too. I guess you've kind of been bummed out about this game but I've really enjoyed it. Even if we are about to lose :\

[Nahdia]

It's not me : \ can't speak for PK

[Nahdia]

I mean pisskop if it's AtE it doesn't really matter since he self-hammered. I ignore all AtE until the hammer has dropped (or try anyway).

[Nahdia]

I'm an emotional person :\

[Nahdia]

I've been doing a lot of thinking, boys.

[Nahdia]

Deep thoughts, you know? I'm not a good mafia player by any stretch of the imagination, but maybe I can pull this one out. A lot of setup speculation went into my thinking last night. I know who I townread, I know who I scumread. But I played it through in my head a hundred times, just to check. So here's the thing...

I harped on why the heck the flavorcop of all things would be blocked yesterday. It makes sense now. Firebringer was Ganondorf; a flavorcheck on him would have effectively have been a guilty. I suspect the other scum is in a similar boat; a flavorcop checking them would confirm they are not who they say they are. pisskop already visited dwlee though. That only leaves SirCakez, who claimed to be Saria. The tracker was scumreading the flavorcop; scum banked on not needing to roleblock him and it paid off. Really, their entire N4 was a huge gamble with that + the Sensei shot. Mad respect to them for that.

I've thought about Dwlee being scum here. It doesn't seem to add up. He's got the refill mechanic going on, we know he does, but those scum roles don't look like they need to be refilled. Selfwatch and Jan? Who bothers refilling that crap? It's not a scum role. It just isn't. Not in this setup anyway. I've liked a lot about dwlee's play. I liked the way he pulled out that little lie to try and draw another roleblock. I like the way he advocated for a fearlynch on me. I like the way he thought outside the box yesterday and considered a Firebringer/pisskop team. If he's scum, he took a massive risk refilling the doc claim too. I'm pretty sold on Dwlee here.

That leaves me with pisskop and SirCakez. I do truly believe pisskop is a flavor cop. I've pointed it out before but I'll reiterate; it's to the point where I guessed pisskop's role before he ever claimed it. He's been playing as a flavorcop all game. It could be a scumrole, yeah, but I'm doubtful. He seemed eager to catch scum with his role as early as day 1, with the way he was asking claimants for flavor claims.

@dwlee and SirCakez, can I ask, does your neighborhood allow for day chat? Man what I wouldn't give to be able to see that neighborhood. Shoulda invited me, man. I don't see why you wouldn't. Do you still think I'm scum, after Firebringer's flip? That's a story I'm eager to hear. Anyway I would really like to know if the neighborhood has daychat.

The Phoenix kill. Odd, imo. I had already wifomed around with my guard. Perhaps scum really did want the tracker out of the way, but from my perspective, the only person that needed Phoenix dead was SirCakez. Phoenix was obviously going to vote SirCakez today. If pisskop were the final scum, why not just roleblock Phoenix and shoot dwlee? Inverse is true as well, dwlee could have killed pisskop optimally. Only SirCakez needed Phoenix dead.

I thought it was kinda funny how we had 3 investigative roles. But when you think about it, each of them had limitations. Ninja doesn't get picked up by tracker, and scum!zelda is essentially a flavorcop godfather. Wouldn't surprise me if the final scum had some sort of provision against the alignment cop, like being an actual Godfather themselves.

Dwlee99, if you still think SirCakez is town and pisskop is the real scum here, you've got a hell of a case to make, but I'm all ears. For now though...

VOTE: SirCakez

Sorry if I'm wrong on this. If pisskop or dwlee is scum, they played a great game.

[Nahdia]

@Phoenix Wright Ok but why pisskop? I'm looking at Firebringer & SirCakez today and like I said it honestly looks like a coordinated effort.

sell me on this coordinated effort theory

Consider yesterday. SirCakez pushed his agenda of "one of the three investigative claims is scum" and said on at least one occasion that if Xkfyu flips town, pisskop is confirmed scum.

We start off today, and Firebinger IMMEDIATELY challenges pisskop. He made 0 posts on him yesterday, I checked. Maybe he reread overnight, but I have trouble believing that considering we've seen what a low level of commitment Firebringer has been giving to this game. I think SirCakez told him to do so. Notice both of them are pushing the same team right from the start; Myself/pisskop. It's too perfect IMO.

I still really believe I was dead on with this btw.

[Nahdia]

It's just so telling to me how yesterday, SirCakez wouldn't consider anything but a myself/pisskop team. I really think that yesterday he believed he was sealing off the win then and there. There was zero contingency plan for if somehow town was convinced to lynch Firebringer over pisskop. Phoenix had stated he was scumreading pisskop. I had agreed with SirCakez about there definitely being one scum in the investigative claims. Scum thought they had this and it shows in the overconfidence of their reads which ended up being dead wrong yesterday. Town wouldn't play like that in the situation we were in, IMO.

The only thing that gives me pause is SirCakez having hammer over pisskop for a minute or so. It's possible he just didn''t see it, or was too nervous to take it. I dunno. If it had been a longer span of time, I might consider it a mechanic clear. But I know that I've definitely hesitated with the hammer as scum. It's something, but it's not enough to me. I fully expect SirCakez to try and emphasize that point today but I just don't think it's enough.

[Nahdia]

Have you forgotten there's a roleblocker?

[Nahdia]

Dwlee, answer my question. Does the SirCakez' neighborhood have daychat?

[Nahdia]

A roleblocked cop, sure.

[Nahdia]

Like, obviously coming from me you can take this with a grain of salt. But if I were scum here, I would have roleblocked Phoenix and killed dwlee.

[Nahdia]

But then, I wouldn't be in this situation at all as scum here because I wouldn't of bussed Firebringer. Zero reason to.