Mini 1773 : Symphonic Metal Mafia (Game Over?!)

[Wisdom]

The case on me is based on an interaction you don't like, me pushing the shit out of my scumread, and me changing a read from early on

and not really knowing why I had said read in the first place.

[Wisdom]

so you are saying that a town aligned player who didn't remember something would make up stuff instead of just admitting he didn't remember?

yes

Once again, things are not absolute. Town can even claim scum and still be town.

[Jake from State Farm]

A search of snarky's iso doesn't show him using the word forgot or forget. The word remember appears once and it's inside a quote.

So why exactly are you putting words in Snarky's mouth?

P.edit - fine but what's the town motivation for making stuff up?

[Jake from State Farm]

so you are saying that a town aligned player who didn't remember something would make up stuff instead of just admitting he didn't remember?

yes

Once again, things are not absolute. Town can even claim scum and still be town.

If you honestly believe this to be true then you can't use it as a basis to lynch farmer. It's a 2 way street.

Snarky v farmer, hands down snarky is scummiest

[Wisdom]

Because he didn't want to admit he didn't remember

[Wisdom]

If you honestly believe this to be true then you can't use it as a basis to lynch farmer. It's a 2 way street.

I can, because I don't buy farmer's actions as town-motivated

[Jake from State Farm]

Town isn't afraid to do that. Town doesn't make stuff up instead. Sorry you lose

[Jake from State Farm]

If you honestly believe this to be true then you can't use it as a basis to lynch farmer. It's a 2 way street.

I can, because I don't buy farmer's actions as town-motivated

Ok your opinion vs fact. Fact wins every time. Vote snarky

[Wisdom]

There you go generalizing again, that's why we can't communicate

Any argument you make with "Town does X" or "Town doesn't do X" is a fallacy.

[Wisdom]

Town are people, not machines. There are no preset behaviors you can use to define town. Town will lie, will fakeclaim guilties for no reason other than stubbornness, will claim scum for no reason other than personal amusement, will behave in abnormal and weird ways affected by paranoia and lack of knowledge, and will generally RARELY act the way you believe is the optimal way they should be behaving.

The answer to such behaviors is not "you're not playing like I expect town to, so I will lynch you and if you are town I will report you for not playing like town".

The answer is to widen your expectations and go deeper to understand the motivations behind such behaviors.

[Jeanne11]

Shouldn't you be doing that with farmer then? Right back at you, just because you see him acting scummy, doesn't mean he is. Look deeper yourself.

[Wisdom]

I am doing it, and I have deemed he is scum.

I also did it with Jake, Maestro and Snarky, and I deemed I wasn't sure they were scum. Hence why I am not pushing them anymore. But you're still failing to give that to me.

[Masquerade]

I'm bored with this. And if jake and Wisdom are still alive after next night I'm replacing out.

[Masquerade]

I meant one of jake and Wisdom.

[Jeanne11]

Then you're not looking deeper. You just said he is scum and refuse to consider any other possibility. You're always right, I get it. But at some point that attitude of your will hurt town. At some point, you will be in LYLO and you will hammer wrong because of your 'I can't be wrong' attitude, and cause a loss for town.

[Wisdom]

If I thought I was always right, wouldn't I still be voting Jake?

[Shiro]

Please not another

Wisdom vs jeane

[Wisdom]

I can't ignore people I am trying but unfairness just gets to me

[Masquerade]

Do we have a lynch yet?

[Wisdom]

Nope, still need two votes on farmer

[Jeanne11]

I was always lynched when I played like you. Why should you be an exception? To me it seems you are desperate for mislynch.

[Firebringer]

Please not another

Wisdom vs jeane

Hi Shiro-chan!

On this whole, fight between Jake and Wisdom. I don't agree with Wisdom here. I looked at Farmer, nothing was strong scum pings from me. I got mild town pings if anything from him.
So if it has to be between Snarky and Farmer I am going snarky.

VOTE: Snarkysnowman

[Wisdom]

FB's chances of being farmer's buddy just skyrocketed

[Wisdom]

Go on, have your mislynch. Let's see how you'll defend yourself for this when farmer has flipped scum.

[Frozen Angel]

Cristina Adriana Chiara Scabbia (Italian pronunciation: [krisˈtiːna adriˈaːna ˈkjaːra ˈskabbja]; born 6 June 1972, Milan) is an Italian singer and lyricist, best known as one of the two vocalists in the Italian Gothic metal band Lacuna Coil. She also writes an advice column in the popular rock magazine Revolver, alongside musician Vinnie Paul. Scabbia is featured in a Megadeth song, "À Tout le Monde (Set Me Free)". She also featured on "The Theory of Everything", an album from Arjen Anthony Lucassen's Ayreon project, with which she is cast as the Mother. She is also the featured artist in the Apocalyptica song "S.O.S. (Anything But Love)" and another version of the Alter Bridge song "Watch Over You". Scabbia has said that the biggest compliment that a fan could pay her would be to remark on her vocal abilities. Her highest note ever hit is claimed to be an A7. Scabbia performed a duet with the Italian ex-singer of Linea 77 Emiliano Audisio on the track "Beautiful Lie" to be part of the soundtrack for the 2013 Italian film Passione sinistra. Scabbia has been in a relationship with Slipknot guitarist Jim Root since 2004.