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Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:39 am

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My reasons for scum reading and voting Titus > my reason for scum reading massive based on PoE/VCA/one on-one off scum theory.

Ircher can see this.
BBT cannot see this.
"I find that strange".
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Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:48 am

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If massive had flipped scum I could understanding a townie wrongly scum-reading my unwillingness to lynch massive D3. However...


(This is a big however...)


Massive is confirmed NOTHING.
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Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 9:56 am

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What's that I hear... is that BBT's scum bus approaching?

It's either that or two lurkers just shitting their pants.

Sorry mafia, no quick lynch today :lol:
"3-4 hour" quick hammer... :facepalm: was that your plan for LYLO?

Pathetic.
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Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:13 am

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I'm moving off of you today Keyser.
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Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:51 am

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In post 1819, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I mean, it's pretty obvious from your post that you thought massive was the only person who could be scum off the wagon.

So, when you deny that, it's a flat out lie.

I'm not buying this line of argument, BBT. The argument for Massive was based on the
hypothesis
that there would be one scum off the Thor wagon. Keyser's apparent certainty was based on that hypothesis.
If
the hypothesis holds,
then
Massive is probably scum - but Keyser was uncertain since the hypothesis may not actually hold.
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Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 10:56 am

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Can we have mass roleclaim too (one of those things that must happen at LYLO).
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Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:11 am

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VT.

I am in disbelief that people are not seeing that Keyser is scum. I need scum to bus in order to lynch him which is ridiculous.

I guess I'll just wait while you guys sort out what you wanna do.
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Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:17 am

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VT
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Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:56 am

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In post 1831, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:VT.

I am in disbelief that people are not seeing that Keyser is scum. I need scum to bus in order to lynch him which is ridiculous.

I guess I'll just wait while you guys sort out what you wanna do.

Don't just wait. Share more about your D4 quicklynch plan. Share some more about massive-scum too.


Aka chat shit get banged.
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Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 11:58 am

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Nah.

I'll wait.
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Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:05 pm

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Riveting.
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Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:05 pm

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Indeed.
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Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:47 pm

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I AM ODD NIGHT COP!!!!!!!!
I AM KAIN TEPES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:47 pm

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I think massclaim is useless at this point.
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Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:48 pm

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Kain, can you vote Keyser please?
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Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:51 pm

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Setup:

1x Town Odd Cop (Kein)
1x Town 1S Vig (Boon)
1x Town Gunsmith (Thor)
1x Town JK (TTH)
1x Mafia RB (???)
1x Mafia Encryptor? (??? - Seems kinda common nowadays)

This setup was reviewed for balance and that is balanced.

JK & Mafia RB break any breaking strategies. And presumably, the RB overrides the JK.
Gunsmith gets a lot of false guilties, and the cop is limited to odd only.
The Vig is negative utility in general and we would've lost already if it wasn't for TTH.

And, massclaim is nullified cuz all the prs save one are dead.
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Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:54 pm

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In post 1839, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Kain, can you vote Keyser please?

If he does, I'm voting you.

I'm sure KS and Aqua wouldn't mind lynching you and certainly one other person will be willing to vote/bus you.

Nonetheless, I would strongly prefer us not lynching immediately like your stupid quickhammer yesterday and actually have a D1-ish type of day again where we get good amount of info.
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Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:05 pm

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In post 1840, Ircher wrote:Setup:

1x Town Odd Cop (Kein)
1x Town 1S Vig (Boon)
1x Town Gunsmith (Thor)
1x Town JK (TTH)
1x Mafia RB (???)
1x Mafia Encryptor? (??? - Seems kinda common nowadays)

This setup was reviewed for balance and that is balanced.
...

I'm not so sure that is balanced, and even if it is two investigates n1 is super swingy.

Does anybody have a reason to think Kain is town which is not related to his claim?
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Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:17 pm

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It's swingy, but it's balanced. The odd modifier on Kein being a Cop should actually confirm he's not fakeclaiming -- that's a very strange fakeclaim when town has a full gunsmith. Furthermore, Mafia has a RB who has been RBing Kein the entire game. Finally, gunsmith is weaker than I originally thought. It would get false positives on the Cop and Vig and possibly the JK too.
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Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:19 pm

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If you want to vote for me, you should do it now.

Both you and Keyser have already decided I'm scum so I don't know what you're waiting for.
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Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:27 pm

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And how many times do WE have to explain to you that we're using our time to search for scumbuddies?
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Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:38 pm

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In post 1844, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:If you want to vote for me, you should do it now.

Both you and Keyser have already decided I'm scum so I don't know what you're waiting for.

You may have given up but there's still two more mafia to find. So scoot to your corner, dig a hole and roll about in your scummy-shit. No quicklynches are happening while I am alive. If anyone wants to join BBT's scummy quickhammer plan for today, you better just replace out or stay away from this forum.

Now, tell me more about massive, BBT.


I also advise that KainTepes is not allowed to vote unless it's the hammer vote (or at least he posts his intent to vote).

He is town through his roleclaim, but I do not trust his voting playstyle.

BBT can vote for whoever he wants. It doesn't matter anymore, he's not listening for obvious reasons.
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Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:43 pm

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Pops & Massive conf scum for lurking :p

Ok, not really, but they haven't posted at all yet this day phase and have in general a fairly sparse iso.
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Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:49 pm

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@aquanim - Don't you think our set-up needs a cop?
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Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Sat Mar 26, 2016 1:52 pm

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In post 1848, Keyser Söze wrote:@aquanim - Don't you think our set-up needs a cop?

Gunsmith is a Cop in all but name and the details of which roles it gets false results for.
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