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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:41 pm

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It's a very personal issue.
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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:14 pm

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If Al Franken was Clinton's VP choice. My response would be "Bernie who?"
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:25 pm

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I'm really gonna miss Uncle Joe
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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 4:25 pm

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Also better than Al Franken would be Lewis Black tbh
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:07 pm

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franken has progressive chops it would be a decent choice
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 5:26 pm

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In post 73, Psyche wrote:have you ever been attracted to someone who didn't like you back cd

yeah, but I don't idolize them, or obsess over their existence.

In post 109, Kublai Khan wrote:

WTF? A 40+year old nuanced essay attacking gender roles reduced to a simple meme to make Sanders look bad?!?

That's it. I'm voting Trump guys.

also this... shotty, I expected better from your most recent return. Actually I didn't, but that's chill.

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In post 125, drmyshottyizsik wrote:It's a very personal issue.

slip. That would prove his point, no?
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:12 pm

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I think Clinton is going to pick Cory Booker, but I read that piece about Franken and he would be a strong choice as well.

Hypothetical: if Sanders wins the nom, who does he put on the ticket? Would Warren take the spot if offered? Tulsi Gabbard?
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:14 pm

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gabbard seems perfect
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:41 pm

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I really hope the Clintons don't torpedo Tulsi Gabbard's career for daring to oppose the coronation
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:48 am

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cd wrote:slip. That would prove his point, no?

No you sick fuck. It's personal in the other way. Also hey CD nice to see you again. I missed you.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 1:06 am

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In post 133, OhGodMyLife wrote:I really hope the Clintons don't torpedo Tulsi Gabbard's career for daring to oppose the coronation


I don't think she'll get a cabinet position or anything, but the presidency is politically terminal, a final destination. Assuming Gabbard doesn't do something like oppose Clinton in the general election, there's less need to enforce loyalty after the fact.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:00 am

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodm ... 55422.html

Any concern that Hillary really does get charged during her coronation tour- I mean general election run?
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:29 am

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Of course there's concern.
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:35 am

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that goodman guy writes that same article every other week
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:40 am

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Yup.
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:43 am

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In post 136, T-Bone wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodm ... 55422.html

Any concern that Hillary really does get charged during her coronation tour- I mean general election run?


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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:47 am

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I think it's unreasonable to dismiss concerns about the emails. I just wish it weren't started by an article like that or by that guy.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 9:55 am

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http://www.salon.com/2016/03/28/democra ... _november/

here's a better version
there really is a new development in the case -
Clinton’s FBI problem became a little more concrete over the weekend. The Los Angeles Times reports that “Federal prosecutors investigating the possible mishandling of classified materials on Hillary Clinton’s private email server have begun the process of setting up formal interviews with some of her longtime and closest aides, according to two people familiar with the probe, an indication that the inquiry is moving into its final phases.”

Notifying aides that interviews are imminent means the Feds have collected all the relevant data. The background work is done. “They are likely nearing the end of the investigation and the agents need to interview these people to put the information in context,” said James McJunkin, former FBI official. “They will then spend time aligning these statements with other information, emails, classified documents, etc., to determine whether there is a prosecutable case.”

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It’s unlikely that Clinton will be prosecuted for using the private email server. Although questionable, using a private email system was not illegal at the time – and Clinton certainly wasn’t the first government official to do this. The key issue, as the LA Times notes, is whether classified material was communicated outside the State Department’s secure system. Regardless, Clinton can still avoid prosecution, as investigators have to prove she “knowingly or willfully” handled classified material “in a grossly negligent manner.”

Establishing this beyond doubt is difficult, especially for someone as careful as Clinton. And while you can question her judgment, Clinton does not appear to have broken any laws. “The facts of the case do not fit the law,” said Stephen Vladeck, a law professor at American University. “Reasonable folks may think that federal law ought to prohibit what Hillary did, but it’s just not clear to me that it currently does.”
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:00 am

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I think "entering into final stages" is probably more likely to be good for her in the end. Better to have an announcement that the probe is over or that some staffer is going to be charged in June than to have it happen in september. Of course, if she's actually indicted, I guess that makes things crazy whether June or September.
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:02 am

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The truth is that absent an actual indictment, the Republicans messed up by overplaying their Benghazi hand. The emails got lumped in with the more obviously politically motivated Benghazi hearings, so I think that unless you have something that comes across as fairly neutral indicting her, it'll seem like more Benghazi nonsense.

Also, the actual details are sufficiently nuanced that I think many are likely to just see what they want to see in it than actually have their ideas swayed.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:20 am

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In post 136, T-Bone wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodm ... 55422.html

Any concern that Hillary really does get charged during her coronation tour- I mean general election run?

Don't worry they have uncle joe in their back pocket.
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:15 am

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bernie before joe
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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:45 am

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I could go for a cup'o'Joe every morning for the next 8 years
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:49 pm

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I know the guy I posted is an obvious Hillary hater, but the possibility of an indictment still hangs over her head. I don't think she'll ultimately get in any trouble, but certainly something like that will play into the Republican/Trump's hands. All they need is the tangible implication of a crime, which they can then beat to death in the public forum.
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Mon Mar 28, 2016 2:55 pm

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I am thoroughly convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt it hangs over her head only in so much as Obama's Kenyan birth hung over his.
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