Mini 1773 : Symphonic Metal Mafia (Game Over?!)

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1850 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:15 am

In post 1848, Masquerade wrote:What I meant is that Jeanne wasn't the only one discussing annoyingly with Wisdom.
Got an opinion on me wanting to lynch Maestro-slot?

why you would want to waste time on maestro slot when we know the final 2 scum are wisdom/snarky is beyond me.

wisdom was afraid of jeanne so it's no surprise why he killed her.

Wisdom · Post Post #1851 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:16 am

How can I be afraid of a site-known VI is beyond me

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1852 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:20 am

I have never heard anyone other than you call her a VI. It's also pretty disrespectful to badmouth somebody who can't defend themselves.

you proved you were scared of her when you backed down to her pressure. you can deny it all you want but your actions already proved it.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1853 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:22 am

In post 1844, Wisdom wrote:And wow, I lynched one town, must mean I have to change my style that has worked for 3 years. Yeah

48.5% win rate is what you consider working? must be nice to have low standards

Wisdom · Post Post #1854 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:23 am

It's a fact she is a VI, she is rejected in games and we all made the mod force-replace her in ASOIAF. Hell, it's obvious from this game why that's true. She spent all game fighting with someone she wasn't even scumreading.

I nowhere backed down to any pressure. I was handling her like a kid the whole game.

Wisdom · Post Post #1855 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:26 am

Also, I'm starting to think Jake might be scum again. This Jeanne kill makes no sense, she was no danger to anyone as she would be obviously keep tunneling on me, and I don't believe there's anyone dumb in this playerlist that bought her obviously fake vig claim. However, if Jake genuinely believed I seemed scared of Jeanne for whatever reason, which seems to be the case, he could have killed her so he could push this point.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1856 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:54 am

You did back down to pressure from her. You can deny it but the evidence is there in plain view for the world to see.

Wisdom · Post Post #1857 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 2:56 am

Quote where I backed down please

SnarkySnowman · Post Post #1858 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:03 am

I still maintain that Maestro is scum.

nnn_thekushmountains · Post Post #1859 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:07 am

VOTE: expedience
I've been looking at the game wisdom posted, and maestro's play does look similar here. It at least proves that he's the type of mafia player who you can't townread for being a dick.

I find the nature of activity very smummy as well. He disappeared except for when he's under pressure.

Other scum:
Shiro has yet to do anything to convince me of her towniness. Actually my first choice but no one else wants to lynch for some reason??
Snarky - I have to close read his activity near EoD to make a good decision on him.
FB - maybe?

Masquerade · Post Post #1860 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:09 am

I've been reading farmer and I have reason to believe he jailed Maestro N1 because he was quite defensive of him Day 2. However, the way he talked to Jeanne makes me think he knew she was town, he's trying to reason with her in a way you wouldn't do if it was a scumread.
Farmer, why you never claimed

Ok, not lynching Maestro-slot today. Wisdom, I'd like you to ignore any comments made on your playstyle. Jake, I want to ask from you to only comment on the alignment indicative shit Wisdom does. Make thisgame fun again!

UNVOTE: My vote has made its point now. Going to read up on things but for now
VOTE: Snarky

Wisdom · Post Post #1861 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:12 am

In post 1859, nnn_thekushmountains wrote:FB - maybe?

Probably not given his claim. Could have been CC'd, why risk it when he wasn't even in danger?

nnn_thekushmountains · Post Post #1862 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:13 am

masq how would jking someone tell you their alignment?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1863 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:13 am

In post 569, Wisdom wrote:Jake is town, Jeanne. Maestro isn't.

here.

after Jeanne was pushing you over multiple posts to explain yourself about why I was scum, you do a 180 out of the blue and say I am town.

Wisdom · Post Post #1864 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:14 am

In post 1860, Masquerade wrote:Ok, not lynching Maestro-slot today.

Uh, can you clarify how you ended up there?

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1865 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:15 am

In post 1860, Masquerade wrote:I've been reading farmer and I have reason to believe he jailed Maestro N1 because he was quite defensive of him Day 2. However, the way he talked to Jeanne makes me think he knew she was town, he's trying to reason with her in a way you wouldn't do if it was a scumread.
Farmer, why you never claimed
Ok, not lynching Maestro-slot today. Wisdom, I'd like you to ignore any comments made on your playstyle. Jake, I want to ask from you to only comment on the alignment indicative shit Wisdom does. Make thisgame fun again!

UNVOTE: My vote has made its point now. Going to read up on things but for now
VOTE: Snarky

you want to make this game fun again? vote wisdom

he's scum

Wisdom · Post Post #1866 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:16 am

You conveniently missed this:

In post 554, Wisdom wrote:Tough luck Maestro. You left me alive thinking I'd keep tunneling on Jake, huh?

and all the other posts where I started scumreading Maestro and changing my read on you.

Jeanne had nothing to do with it.

Masquerade · Post Post #1867 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:21 am

In post 1862, nnn_thekushmountains wrote:masq how would jking someone tell you their alignment?

There were 2 kills N1. Given the size of this game, I'd say a JK N1 would clear a player.

In post 1864, Wisdom wrote:Uh, can you clarify how you ended up there?

I did in that same post. If you have questions about it ask me. If you want to know what posts I mean, go through farmer's iso yourself.

Jake from State Farm · Post Post #1868 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:24 am

yeah I remember that post and I explained how if you were town ANY SCUM would leave you alive, not just maestro. so that was a really shitty reason to do a 180

SnarkySnowman · Post Post #1869 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:25 am

VOTE: Wisdom

And I have thoughts I want to share later when I get a chance.

Wisdom · Post Post #1870 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:26 am

In post 1867, Masquerade wrote:There were 2 kills N1. Given the size of this game, I'd say a JK N1 would clear a player.

Nope. Even if you're right that Maestro was jailed, there were two other scum alive who could have executed the kill. Not only that, but after Maestro's quickhammer, he would be crazy to be the one to execute the kill.

Wisdom · Post Post #1871 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:26 am

In post 1869, SnarkySnowman wrote:VOTE: Wisdom

And I have thoughts I want to share later when I get a chance.

Where did this come from?

Masquerade · Post Post #1872 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:29 am

In post 1870, Wisdom wrote:Nope. Even if you're right that Maestro was jailed, there were two other scum alive who could have executed the kill. Not only that, but after Maestro's quickhammer, he would be crazy to be the one to execute the kill.

Fuck I'm still an idiot.

Masquerade · Post Post #1873 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:31 am

I'm really annoyed I couldn;t get response yesterday and now suddenly people are agreeing :/

UNVOTE:

I'll vote later, I need to rethink some things and I want to hear from Snarky and Maestro-slot.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #1874 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:31 am

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