Micro 597: TTH's Normal Micro (Game Over)

[RaisusTheFlammie]

Personally, I'm not sure, there's just something about your responses that just don't sit right with me.

Fence-sitting, but again shows he's keeping an eye on pisskop/Titus.

RaisusTheFlammie

Maybe you could mention what don't sit right with you?

I personally don't like RVS simply because 9 out of 10 times we lynch a townie... (since we really don't have enough to go on other than hunches)

Seemed like an opinion to me.

@pisskop, because, as far as I'm concerned, not responding is anti-town

Damn right I am UNVOTE: ,
VOTE: pisskop

Nah, you just made it clear exactly what your motives are and I don't like it.

Right.


Your whole interaction with me is an example of noncomittence and dodgery.

Give me one example of non-commitance, just one. Seems to me like you're intentionally trying to deflect pressure away from

YOU

instead.

Tunneling on pisskop, but I am still not sure why besides PK not responding to him. RTF, could you say more about this?

RaisusTheFlammie

About post #264:
Do you still believe in a KT/(PK/Titus) scum team?
If yes, what more posts you can see they're buddying?
If no, then what's your new bet?

Woops, my bad, I mean't KT/ZZZX.

[Creature]

Okay, this RC-PK argument is going nowhere, fast.

Just Isolating jmo16mla and I see a startling lack of substance in his posts right from the moment we started. I feel as though he is deliberately stalling/lurking and want to call him out on it. Here. Now.
VOTE: jmo16mla

I have no idea what you want to do but I am starting to scum read you hard.

You call it scum reading? I call it scum hunting. jmo has had a distinct lack of content this entire game and, while Pisskop and Radiant both seem suspicious (with my preference for scum leaning towards PK than RC right now) in my eyes, I'd prefer if we Lynch All Lurkers.

Again, my intention wasn't lynching jmo, it was to make him speak. Still, he didn't speak anything. Even though jmo should be lynched if he keeps not doing anything, we're not earning anything from it.
I need something better than "Pisskop and Radiant both seem suspicious".

[Creature]

and you're literally doing everything to get me to vote pisskop, which in turn makes you look scummy in return. Either accept that I'm basing this on jmo's reluctance to post or not, tbh i'm fed up of the lot of you. I've half a mind to replace out

Okay, you've been scum reading pisskop since the beginning, why are you reluctant to vote him now?

[RaisusTheFlammie]

God Dammit. Hit enter too soon. Meant to answer you properly. Sorry about that. (@Mod, please merge this post with that other one if you can?)

1. I think what got me was the attitude of his actions, they felt stilted and as if he was trying to rile me up (Which in effect he did do)
2. that was an opinion, I'm not professing any kind of legitimate claim for that at all.

3. It was probably a case of I got carried away with the argument we were having and forgot to take a step back and look objectively at it.

4. I don't think I've ever professed a KT/ZZZX scumteam, My hunch is on Pisskop/Titus and jmo or KainTepes (this latter one depends entirely on jmo's willingness to co-operate with us and actually post.

p-edit:
5. I figured that much but at the moment, there doesn't seem to be any favourable swing for any party and rather than have the wagon die, I wanted to try and get a counterwagon up on jmo to get him to contribute, it's nothing less than what he deserves for being AFK for so long

[Creature]

Titus

That's it for now. I am going give him time to answer these, if his defense doesn't convince me, then I'll follow your vote.

[RaisusTheFlammie]

EBWOP: I'm not reluctant, I want to try and get JMO to contribute. I still believe pisskop's the best scumread I've got.

[RaisusTheFlammie]

EBWODP: Isn't the vote the strongest tool available to players during the day phase, scum or not? Shouldn't we be using it more to push players to respond as opposed to attacking people for changing votes to try and get some life into players who would otherwise coast along?

[RadiantCowbells]

I still think that PK!slot is scum regardless of the replacement.

[RadiantCowbells]

I don't think that PK is the type of person who would replace out at this time over a personal vendetta if he were town who thought I was town or scum.

I believe that he replaced out because he's scum and couldn't stomach getting lynched by me again. Hence him overexplaining his reasons to replace out when he did.

I also don't like Titus's first streak of posts upon replacing in; they feel doctored and they feel for show like 'hey look at me scumhunting!' and I don't really feel a genuine thought process there as much as an artificial trail of posts designed to look as town as possible while leading her exactly where she wanted to go in the first place (RTF lynch.)

Now I don't like RTF very much but I think I should give him the benefit of the doubt as a potential newbie enough that I don't feel the urge to vote him right now. My vote sticks.
After all, there's no scum motivation in refusing to vote Titus unless she's his scumpartner, while there is town motivation in sticking to your guns and not wanting to be herded.

His behaviour is somewhat weird though.

[Not_Mafia]

I concurr

[RadiantCowbells]

And saying scum if I'm not doesn't really make sense.
I can see that it would sort of make sense for RTF to respond in that way to be shepherding his lynch around if I were his scumbuddy.
Conversely, me putting myself into a position where I'd be able to immediately vote him if he got wagoned while pushing a mislynch primarily is classic RC fare.
So that doesn't really reason out.

[Titus]

RC, I see a strong scum indicator whenever I see oh I've got a scumread, but let's pressure newbies. Given the amount of words RTF and Creature use to basically say the same thing is asinine. Noob or not. We don't let noob bad behavior go. How else do they know how to improve? Meh, I can get away with scummy shit by playing the noob card.

There's plenty of scum motivation in not wanting to vote me and fight me. He wants lurker lynches because they are zero accountablity.

Pisskop was a jerk, nothing I can do to heal that. His reads were pretty accurate though. Fight me. Sort me RC. You know I am scumhunting, but you're not wanting to admit it to yourself. Which is frustrating, so if you fight me, you should see it. Or not.

[ZZZX]

I am liking titus, Really good so far.

[RadiantCowbells]

I am not liking Titus and I don't understand where you get a townread from that slot.

Walk me through it?

[KainTepes]

Helo!!!!

[ZZZX]

I am not liking Titus and I don't understand where you get a townread from that slot.

Walk me through it?

Shes engaging people. Feels like legit scum hunting, The part about attacking creature/Ras felt slightly weird but nothing to fret about. I guess?

[Titus]

You see ZZZX is calling me weird town, while I am voting what he is voting. Scum would usually either a) buddy the fuck out of me or b) say that my entrance is scummy. ZZZX looks like he's genuinely solving the game.

[Titus]

Helo!!!!

Hellloooo can you hear me?

You should totally vote RTF with us.

[Titus]

I am not liking Titus and I don't understand where you get a townread from that slot.

Walk me through it?

Ok. Why don't you walk us through why you don't like me?

Bonus if you exclude any reference to any insulting references.

[RaisusTheFlammie]

Yup. Rasius had no problem understanding my issue.

You feel you can't beat it.

MOAR VOTES.

Bye.

This statement is exactly the kind of statement I saw from Pisskop. I actually

don't

know what your problem is with me, and would very much appreciated if you could lay out your points so that I can answer them because I CBA to read through 19 pages of drabble.

Helo!!!!

Hellloooo can you hear me?

You should totally vote RTF with us.

Tch. That was KT's attempt at a prodge.

[TellTaleHeart]

Vote Count 1.10

Not_Mafia [1] - jmo16mla
Titus [2] - Not_Mafia, RadiantCowbells
KainTepes [1] - Sméagol
RaisusTheFlammie [2] - ZZZX, Titus
RadiantCowbells [1] - KainTepes
jmo16mla [2] - Creature, RaisusTheFlammie

Not Voting: No one

Smeagol has been prodded.

5 to lynch
Deadline is in (expired on 2016-04-08 17:41:40)

[Titus]

Read my ISO.

[RaisusTheFlammie]

I have. I can't see anywhere where you've listed

any

legitimate questions or reasons, you've just flat-out said I'm scum. I need to see what evidence you seem to think you've got for scum, other than just the fact I move my vote around, which, seeing as it's daytime is the

single, most effective tool

a player has for nudging other players into acting, whether they be scum or not.

Right now, I couldn't care less if you Lynch me. It'd just prove you've all been wrong about me right from the start. Of course, I could be lying here, but why would I?

[RaisusTheFlammie]

EBWOP: I've had it with this forum. I'm no longer having fun.

@Mod - Please replace me

[Creature]

Raisus, replacing out will make it more complicated for us.