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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:13 am

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I think he faked the vt claim.
beeboy - Everyone thought this game was made to troll pie but it was really made to troll pisskop.
Almost50 pisskop: Overall, that's a townie slot. Don't ask for specifics because with PK everything can be interpreted either way. It's probably WHEN he says/does things that matter, so it's more of a matter of conception rather than solid reasoning.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:22 am

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Drixx, yeah I'd like links to those dirty lies you've told recently. (Also holy shit that game was like 8-10 months ago already?!?!?). Also, why do you think your wagon is "easy"?

Unvote, Vote Creature

^sounds like I was reading that "here wo go" correctly then. His play since that hasn't changed my mind either.

Sircake, did you actually read my reasoning on Drixx critically? It wasn't just because he told a funny joke.

Bugs, why do you think Drixx intentionally made himself a target? And what is wrong with Killthestory's vote on Drixx? Do you think he somehow knew a wagonwould follow?

Kop, thanks I guess? That's the answer I wanted from Bugs but now we'll never get it. I forgot I'd asked though to be fair.

I agree with post 446.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:28 am

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In post 449, GuyFawkes wrote:
In post 447, Ilikebugs wrote:Ya I'm new I'm still a townie after all

what does being new have to do with being a townie?



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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:29 am

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are you an alt?
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:31 am

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In post 451, Egg wrote:Drixx, yeah I'd like links to those dirty lies you've told recently. (Also holy shit that game was like 8-10 months ago already?!?!?). Also, why do you think your wagon is "easy"?

Unvote, Vote Creature

^sounds like I was reading that "here wo go" correctly then. His play since that hasn't changed my mind either.

Sircake, did you actually read my reasoning on Drixx critically? It wasn't just because he told a funny joke.

Bugs, why do you think Drixx intentionally made himself a target? And what is wrong with Killthestory's vote on Drixx? Do you think he somehow knew a wagonwould follow?

Kop, thanks I guess? That's the answer I wanted from Bugs but now we'll never get it. I forgot I'd asked though to be fair.

I agree with post 446.

I dont think Drixx wanted to be a target, but what he was doing made himself seem scummier. Killthestory voted Drixx without a reason, and Egg went with the vote. Just an observation for a potential pairing.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:31 am

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No I'm not an alt
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:43 am

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With 21 Alive, it's 11 to Lynch!



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"Paradise City"
[Prodding Kop, Boonskiies, Creature, and GuyFawks]

  • (0)
    Boonskiies

    (0)
    Ozgin

    (0)
    Kop

    (0)
    Killthestory

    (5)
    Reubus Swagrid
    — Ilikebugs, Ozgin, jam, Drixx
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    pisskop

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    Performer

    (1)
    Drixx
    — Killthestory
    (0)
    Ilikebugs

    (1)
    SirCakez
    — Creature
    (4)
    Creature
    — Kop, Slandaar, KickAssAndGiggle, Egg
    (0)
    GuyFawkes

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    Something_Smart

    (1)
    Egg
    — Golden Robster
    (0)
    Slandaar

    (2)
    jam
    — SirCakez, GuyFawkes
    (4)
    iraonavp
    — Performer, pisskop, SnarkySnowman, Fraggernaut
    (1)
    Golden Robster
    — Boonskiies
    (1)
    KickAssAndGiggle
    — Golden Robster
    (1)
    Fraggernaut
    — iraonavp
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    SnarkySnowman


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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:16 am

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Bugs, but for Drixx to not be scummy for making himself a target, he had to at least have been aware he'd done something to make himself a target. So what I'm trying to get at is what benefit do you think Drixx had for doing that as town? If you don't believe that, you have no basis for your stance. Why do you think killthestory didn't have a reason for his vote?
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:25 am

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In post 453, GuyFawkes wrote:are you an alt?

Did you think he is an Alt Guy?

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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:31 am

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In post 433, Creature wrote:VOTE: Drixx

Two stones, one scum

Why do you think Drixx is scum?
In post 445, Kop wrote:These 2 posts aren't pleasing me. I think my vote on Creature looks like it'll be staying. If you can give me a case on why Sircakes is scum, and if I can find something within it that I can agree with, I might reconsider my vote.

Yes, obviously, if someone makes a good point against another you should reconsider your vote. Thank you for stating that. Very town.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:34 am

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Spoiler: Creature
In post 8, Creature wrote:VOTE: SirCakez

RVS.
In post 9, Creature wrote:Here we go.

Not sure what the point of this is, I think it's just a "this game is starting and it's big".
In post 174, Creature wrote:Here I am.

Prodging. No content yet.
In post 176, Creature wrote:I'll see.

Still no content.
In post 209, Creature wrote:
In post 184, SirCakez wrote:Creature do something. Even Snarky is being more useful then you.
Slandaar is a stinky wagon.

If Slandaar is a stinky wagon, then what is a good wagon for you? Slandaar has only asked questions so far, but I didn't see him bothering to even answer his own questions. I don't mind pushing him, even if there's a Golden Robster voting him.

Also, why were you referencing Snarky?

In post 189, Kop wrote:I think some votes may force the issue.

VOTE: Creature

What about you? Do you have your own opinions? If your only post is an opportunistic vote, then there's something wrong with you.

In post 193, Egg wrote:Creature, wanna answer my question? Also, any thoughts on the game? Reads on Jam and Ness? Thoughts on their wagons?

Do you think there's something wrong with post #9? I had no intention behind that post. I am waiting the game go on a bit, I'll slowly take a look.

So far:
Ness - Typical panicking. Well, so far his behavior matches with his scum play, but I need to take a look at his town behavior and see what matches more.
Jam - Newbscum for me. I see hesitation on his initial posts to accuse someone, I also think he's pretending to be stupid. His vote on Golden seems sheepy (sheeping Snarky).

Jam

How much experience do you have in Mafia?

Push on Slandaar is weak and doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Questioning to Kop is oddly defensive (and calling a naked vote on him "opportunistic" is also weird).
Even if it really seems like it, it's bad to accuse a newbie of playing the newb card.
In post 210, Creature wrote:
In post 208, iraonavp wrote:
In post 206, Fraggernaut wrote:Also combine that with the fact that I know Golden Robster (from my recently finished game I modded. that they were involved in) is more then capable of providing information to help town & being a town leader.

But he still could be a town-aligned player who isn't making much of an effort, right? That's the conclusion I've reached, at least.

Isn't that the same as saying someone could still be a town-aligned player who is being very scummy?

No, it's not the same.
In post 220, Creature wrote:
In post 217, Egg wrote:Creature, you said "here we go" on Page 1. I was mostly trying to figure out if that had to do with anything specific or if it was the game starting in general. And if it was general, was it meant with excitement for the game starting or was it more of a concern for something that may have been coming.

Yeah, it was about the game starting in general. I wasn't that excited though.

This is fair, I guess.
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In post 224, Slandaar wrote:
In post 220, Creature wrote:
In post 217, Egg wrote:Creature, you said "here we go" on Page 1. I was mostly trying to figure out if that had to do with anything specific or if it was the game starting in general. And if it was general, was it meant with excitement for the game starting or was it more of a concern for something that may have been coming.

Yeah, it was about the game starting in general. I wasn't that excited though.

Hello Creature.
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In post 209, Creature wrote:but I didn't see him bothering to even answer his own questions.

Why would I do that?

I mean that you could share what do you think rather than asking some of the questions.

Though this is backtracking and changing what you meant, it is a valid point and I had the same feeling toward Slandaar.
In post 231, Creature wrote:Yes, I am. Although, I am more active in this forums (for some reason).

Fluff.
In post 356, Creature wrote:Here I am.

Prodging.
In post 357, Creature wrote:Like the way Kop's only post is a sheepy vote. Hope this prod makes him speak more.

Feels a bit like fixating on Kop for naked voting him.
In post 359, Creature wrote:tbh I feel jam's being fence-sitty.

This isn't really true and it makes me wonder how closely Creature's been reading.
In post 361, Creature wrote:
In post 258, Slandaar wrote:
In post 227, Creature wrote:I mean that you could share what do you think rather than asking some of the questions.

My priority is to find scum not to let you know what I think. To find scum I shall ask questions. Why didn't you ask me my opinion(s) if you find the opinion(s) I chose not to post important?

Seems fair, but I think you could've commented on some things you find strange.

It's notable that Creature here asks Slandaar to comment not on his reads but on "things he finds strange"... there's more to analysis than than and I wonder if Creature is just afraid of being caught.
In post 362, Creature wrote:
In post 360, pisskop wrote:What about his claiming?

He claimed something? I didn't see jam claiming anywhere.

Fine.
In post 365, Creature wrote:A bit.

Fine. At least he admits he's not caught up.
In post 367, Creature wrote:
In post 364, Something_Smart wrote:That was Ilikebugs who claimed.

Well, he had no reason to claim, so I can't get a read from it.

This doesn't make any sense. It was an unforced claim and therefore you can look at the motivation behind it. Rather, if it were a forced claim then you couldn't get a read from the fact that he claimed.
In post 376, Creature wrote:
In post 370, Fraggernaut wrote:If pisskop asked you to jump off a cliff. Would you do it?

In-game or real life?

This is a stupid response to a stupid question.
In post 379, Creature wrote:.-.

._.
In post 429, Creature wrote:
In post 236, Egg wrote:Creature, how many games have you played? Do you prefer being town or scum? Does being scum make you feel more nervous or confident (or if you've never been scum, which do you think would be true?.

In this site I completed one game and am playing this and 3 others.
I prefer being town because when I am lynched my play will be accepted next game.
Depends, I start nervous, go confident a little then nervous again, but it doesn't differ too much from my town play.

Also, pretty sure the size of the posts is not alignment indicative.

Reasonable.
In post 430, Creature wrote:
In post 425, KickAssAndGiggle wrote:Starting to feel bad vibes from Creature, why are you ignoring Egg's question?

The only reason you're scum reading me is because I didn't answer his question soon?

Too defensive.
In post 433, Creature wrote:VOTE: Drixx

Two stones, one scum

I could understand this after Drixx's entrance.
In post 437, Creature wrote:
In post 435, Drixx wrote:
In post 433, Creature wrote:VOTE: Drixx

Two stones, one scum


Oh hey look. He gets called scum by SirCakez and takes the opportunity to jump on an easy wagon. No correlation though, amirite?

Since when I am forbidden from scum reading you?

Strangely defensive, also notable that he didn't even mention the weakness of Drixx's argument here.
In post 438, Creature wrote:If you notice, SirCakez is only scum reading easy mislynch targets.

Oh this is awful. How, given your significant lack of scumhunting this game, can you suddenly determine who is an easy mislynch target? I don't believe in scumslips but this is pretty awful.
In post 440, Creature wrote:Because I wasn't restricted or anything as I see.

This didn't actually address the question.
In post 441, Creature wrote:
In post 438, Creature wrote:If you notice, SirCakez is only scum reading easy mislynch targets.


In post 439, SirCakez wrote:I've never played with Irao or Jam, and you are pinging me constantly so yea those are my scumreads.


VOTE: SirCakez

Ugh.
In post 443, Creature wrote:
In post 442, SirCakez wrote:Heh
Creature
SirCakez is definitely scum.

That's a nice OMGUS you got there.

So Creature has done little scumhunting all game. He's been alternating lurky and defensive, mostly only addressing others who address him, and has been trying primarily to stay afloat rather than to actually further the wincon of the town. Combining that with , I would be happy on this wagon.
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 6:35 am

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In post 438, Creature wrote:If you notice, SirCakez is only scum reading easy mislynch targets.

This is never a good argument.
In post 209, Creature wrote:Ness - Typical panicking. Well, so far his behavior matches with his scum play, but I need to take a look at his town behavior and see what matches more.
Jam - Newbscum for me. I see hesitation on his initial posts to accuse someone, I also think he's pretending to be stupid. His vote on Golden seems sheepy (sheeping Snarky).

I point this out to help you not to accuse.
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:03 am

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The thing about Creature for me is that all he's been doing is alternating between fluff and defending himself. No scumhunting dome, as mentioned by SS. I'm still scumreading Reubus, at least until he starts posting, but will switch for now to VOTE: Creature

For the record, I am slight town on Frag and pretty much null on irao.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:04 am

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Also, not a big deal but VC is slightly incorrect. There were 4 people on Reubus, not 5.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:06 am

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^That's almost word for word what Something Smart already said

Preview edit: I meant the post before that
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:32 am

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Well, not really, but even if, so what? His reasoning makes a lot of sense to me.
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:39 am

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Ok. There's a difference between sheeping someone's reasoning and having your own. Typically, if you like someone else's reasoning it's best to say that so noone thinks you are trying to pass it off as your own which is what I thought when I made my last post.
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:42 am

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But, yes, it is the same:
Something Smart wrote:He's been alternating lurky and defensive

Jam wrote:all he's been doing is alternating between fluff and defending himself.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:46 am

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(watches scum pushing an easy mislynch)
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:47 am

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Fair enough. Thanks for clearing that up.

Who's your top scumread right now, Egg?
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:48 am

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In post 468, Creature wrote:(watches scum pushing an easy mislynch)


You can say that about any wagon. Defend yourself.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:48 am

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Pretty sure SirCakez is playing like he did when he was scum.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:49 am

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Defend myself from what? I don't think anyone pointed out exactly what's wrong with me besides little scum hunting.
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:50 am

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GuyFawkes is completely ignoring this situation, he deserves to have an eye on him too.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Sun Apr 03, 2016 7:55 am

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In post 459, Slandaar wrote:
In post 433, Creature wrote:VOTE: Drixx

Two stones, one scum

Why do you think Drixx is scum?

What do you think the "Two stones, one scum" means?
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