Mini 1780 - camn's apartment 2 - Finale

[pisskop]

ohhs.


So convert him.

[You Got Schooled]

We should absolutely test that out.

Allow me to get to N1 and I'll shoot Tire. Watch it go through.

[Tiresias]

Recruitment happens after killing, so yes, YGS's kill would go through.

[You Got Schooled]

Hmm, so if we have a SK you probably die tonight anyway.

Might go back to shooting Fate in that case.

[You Got Schooled]

Anyway, I'll let y'all chew on that.

Back in a few.

[pisskop]

Ill rolestop you.

[Tiresias]

Hmm, so if we have a SK you probably die tonight anyway.

Might go back to shooting Fate in that case.

I'd be much more amendable to healing you if you outed as SK and allowed town to direct your vig; can't imagine Kagami disagreeing with that. But, as long as you keep up this "I'm just a vig and there might also be an SK in a 12 player game charade", you're dying today.

[Marquis]

what

[Marquis]

i'm so useless let me just go to a meeting and then stare at this some more

[Tiresias]

I feel much more comfortable calling Antihero as town town town, now. I don't think this is his scum play, but I thought there might have been some possibility of some of his weirder townreads being SK trying to avoid making too many enemies.

[Marquis]

agree????

hm yeah i agree

[Tiresias]

That's why Nacho better join this wagon when he comes back, real wagon times real shit gettin done

;D

This was the perfect time to make it to this post.

[Davsto]

Guys let's just lynch YGS

Like

We have a claimed vig with a claimed psychiatrist in the game, and it's fairly obvious what that means

And YGS' flailing makes me lean on the side of them being scum from this exchange alone, nevermind the rest of their play.

[Tiresias]

YGS is very obviously the SK. But turning them town and directing their vig is the optimal play, especially in a 12p game.

[Tiresias]

Think of it this way: if they don't cooperate, we have to correctly lynch 3 times before mislynching twice in order to win the game.
If they do cooperate, we need to correctly lynch/kill three times before mislynching/misvigging four times, which means we basically get double the chances to root out scum. The only way this goes to shit is if scum kill us before we can heal YGS, but if we have some sort of protective role on us that shouldn't be a problem.

[pisskop]

If I target a Serial Killer, they are converted to a

Vanilla Townie

, which means that we very likely have a SK in the game and not a vig.

YGS is very obviously the SK. But

turning them town

and directing their vig is the optimal play, especially in a 12p game.

Theres a slight problem here. Im not sure if youre trying to say something else than what is coming across, but

[Tiresias]

Vanilla Townies are aligned with the town.

[Tiresias]

Recruitment resolves after killing.

[pisskop]

for one day then.

[Tiresias]

Yep.

[Tiresias]

That's why 12p is significant; as it stands, we would make it to MyLo on a normal one lynch/kill cycle. The one shot we get from a cooperating YGS means that we get to LyLo instead AKA free kill.

[Tiresias]

We're voting YGS, AIden. Pro-tip: pisskop is a likely partner!

I think you're just getting bothered by pisskop's needless aggression at this point, don't really think it's a particularly good scumtell.

That probably came across as more harsh than I meant it, sorry >.> I see your posts and I don't *want* them to be from town. And reading you as town makes me get all sorts of premonitions of how stupid I'm going to feel if I'm wrong about it. So it's really me that makes it frustrating and not you. But yeah..

I think that the way DRK framed this read in particular is more likely to come from town than scum, feels genuine. In particular, this is a fairly complicated townread if DRK is scum white-knighting town, and too harsh then apologetic way he goes it makes it seem unlikely to be coming from DRK interacting with a scumpartner (if he was talking that way about a scumpartner, scumpartner would know that it was just scum theatre).

I have a great respect for the heads of YGS, but I'm starting to see good points I can agree with regarding YGS.

What points did you like in particular?

That dude isn't even that good a scum player. To this day, I'm boggled how he got that award.

At least we can agree on something!

VOTE: Performer

You like bringing up roles huh?

What kind of vote is this...?
Are you trying to imply that he's rolefishing here?

VOTE: YGS
We need an L-1. Too much stagnation.

Holy sweet shit this is terrible.

“No word from nacho, but I'm pretty sure I'm looking in the right direction, anyway, so it's hard to imagine that I'm lacking town flair.” Fluff post about town flair – why mention this at the end of your sentence?

She mentioned town flair because Antihero said that she was lacking town flair.

[Tiresias]

As it stands, my strong townreads are {Antihero, Fate, Pisskop, DNTTU}, lesser tier is {Aiden, Davesto}. Out of the group left standing, I'd probably guess that Marquis is the likeliest town out of everyone remaining and would strongly prefer Performer death before the Kahlan-ProHawk lurker squad.

[camn]

VOTE COUNT 1 . 12

• Antihero
  ---------- 0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Performer
  --------- 1 ( ProHawk, )
  L- 6
  
  
  pisskop
  ----------- 1 ( DO NOT TALK TO US, )
  L- 6
  
  
  Aiden Stark
  ------- 0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  ProHawk
  ----------- 1 ( Kahlan, )
  L- 6
  
  
  Kahlan
  ------------ 1 ( Aiden Stark, )
  L- 6
  
  
  You Got Schooled
  -- 5 ( Davsto, Fate, Performer, Tiresias, pisskop, )
  L- 2
  
  
  Marquis
  ----------- 0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  DO NOT TALK TO US
  - 0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Fate
  -------------- 0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  Tiresias
  ---------- 2 ( Antihero, You Got Schooled, )
  L- 5
  
  
  Davsto
  ------------ 0 ( )
  L- 7
  
  
  
  Not Voting
  - 1 ( Marquis, )
  

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to SUMMON CAMN'S WRATH
Deadline is in (expired on 2016-04-11 12:00:00)

[Antihero]

intriguing