Mini 1776: Evolution Mafia (Game Over)

[Edgar Allan Pro]

You literally just went
"ALL THE OPTIONS OF PEOPLE THAT I COULD REALISTICALLY LYNCH RIGHT NOW ARE MY SCUMREADS"
You built your fence and now you're sitting on it, bro.
Your opinions aren't extreme in the least. :/
You still haven't answered for the points I made in 1272.

[Persivul]

Has it occurred to anyone that, regarding the no result, as scum I could have simply said

I don't know, maybe there was a redirect

. Instead, I'm being honest about my role choices. I didn't know ascetic should claim immediately (I checked the wiki and it didn't say to), but when confronted I was honest about it despite their being an easy alternative explanation.

Consider:
- A town has flipped with a commuter choice. Lane is also claiming commuter and no one finds that suspicious.
- I'm ascetic, and similarly we've had a town flip with the same choices as mine.
- hiplop didn't go into detail but also said in 1244 that duplicate roles make sense to him.

I'm being pushed for being a town ascetic, when everything we know about the setup so far supports me in that claim.

[Hellhound]

Has it occurred to anyone that, regarding the no result, as scum I could have simply said I don't know, maybe there was a redirect. Instead, I'm being honest about my role choices. I didn't know ascetic should claim immediately (I checked the wiki and it didn't say to), but when confronted I was honest about it despite their being an easy alternative explanation.

/shrug

u dun goofed

Consider:
- A town has flipped with a commuter choice. Lane is also claiming commuter and no one finds that suspicious.
- I'm ascetic, and similarly we've had a town flip with the same choices as mine.
- hiplop didn't go into detail but also said in 1244 that duplicate roles make sense to him.

I'm being pushed for being a town ascetic, when everything we know about the setup so far supports me in that claim.

>again, commuter at least has the bp aspect to it and it doesn't exist SOLELY to fuck pr's
>what does that matter and how does that make you town?
>see the above point

no, you're being pushed for playing like a scum ascetic.

[Persivul]

Why do you think mod would offer ascetic to town?

[Hellhound]

balance for a potentially large number of investigatives

[Persivul]

How do town ascetics balance out town investigatives?

[zakk]

Yup it's EAP and Persivul fasho

#ezmode

[Heat]

Hi! I'm here and catching up

[Heat]

oh so i misinterpreted the results we got.

we DID get flubber's results. it was a "no result" on persivul.

i am now ok w/ lynching persivul.

VOTE: persivul

Why does a "no result" make you ok with lynching Persi? He's in my guess for the scumteam too, but I'm wondering why this specifically.

eww apricity this feels so fake

[Heat]

pers, when did u evolve the ascetic? N1?

cause u not claiming immediately is horribly scummy

[Heat]

How do town ascetics balance out town investigatives?

are you just making noise for fun or

[Persivul]

How do town ascetics balance out town investigatives?

are you just making noise for fun or

Are you also unable to explain it?

[Apricity]

oh so i misinterpreted the results we got.

we DID get flubber's results. it was a "no result" on persivul.

i am now ok w/ lynching persivul.

VOTE: persivul

Why does a "no result" make you ok with lynching Persi? He's in my guess for the scumteam too, but I'm wondering why this specifically.

eww apricity this feels so fake

Why? Isn't it completely non-indicative? I scumread him myself but not because of that no result. If he just didn't visit anyone I don't see how that proves anything either way, so I was wondering why Hellhound voted straight off of that. I was more looking from Iecerint's and Flubber's ISOs plus votecounts. And now also that ascetic claim because the way he reacted to Hellhound's vote was bad.

[Apricity]

I am now more okay with lynching Persivul and less okay with lynching Hiplop.

[Persivul]

How in the world are you OK with lynching an ascetic when we've seen a town ascetic flip and we know there are duplicate choices being given out?

When asked why mod would offer ascetic to town, HH replied "balance for a potentially large number of investigatives" but wouldn't expand on that.

Think it through. If ascetics claim and are believed, then investigatives won't go there, it narrows down the target pool, and actually

increases

imbalance.

The only way that town ascetics balance out investigatives is if they're

mislynched

due to a no result coming up on them - and I'm being pushed due to a no result.

OTOH, if scum have RB as an option (and mod hinted at that when I complained about the options), then having ascetic along with another ability makes at least some sense. In that case it's better if the ascetic hasn't claimed, as if he's targeted it wastes a RB shot, and most of what we've seen has been X-shot. (Although I admittedly hadn't thought that through when I didn't claim, I just didn't think about it period.)

[zakk]

Persivul u gon dieeeeee bud

It's overrrrrr

[hiplop]

I think EAP is better than persy

both are scum tho

I'd expect townpersy to do something goofy like this

[Edgar Allan Pro]

That's fine and dandy; I think you're scum before anyone else on this playerlist.
I'm really annoyed by how much people are just forgetting all of your awful, anti-town, scum-as-shit play up to this point.
I feel like I'm some sort of madman here, like am I the only one who sees this shit?

[Edgar Allan Pro]

Idgaf, if you flip town, then just quicklynch me or some shit
I'm so done

[Edgar Allan Pro]

All I've ever wanted was a lynch on Hellhound or Hiplop and you stupid fucks keep lynching people that I tell you are town
I literally handed you scum on a silver platter and you refuse to lynch them
Fuck this noise
!Varsoon can just play the rest of this one out


-V

[Specter Deflectors]

Varsoon
I'll be around later tonight to chat. Just checking in for now.
- Max

[Heat]

oh so i misinterpreted the results we got.

we DID get flubber's results. it was a "no result" on persivul.

i am now ok w/ lynching persivul.

VOTE: persivul

Why does a "no result" make you ok with lynching Persi? He's in my guess for the scumteam too, but I'm wondering why this specifically.

eww apricity this feels so fake

Why? Isn't it completely non-indicative? I scumread him myself but not because of that no result. If he just didn't visit anyone I don't see how that proves anything either way, so I was wondering why Hellhound voted straight off of that. I was more looking from Iecerint's and Flubber's ISOs plus votecounts. And now also that ascetic claim because the way he reacted to Hellhound's vote was bad.

the post just kinda gives me the "look, I'm scumreading him too!" vibe. I'm having a hard time putting it into words.

[Heat]

How in the world are you OK with lynching an ascetic when we've seen a town ascetic flip and we know there are duplicate choices being given out?

When asked why mod would offer ascetic to town, HH replied "balance for a potentially large number of investigatives" but wouldn't expand on that.

Think it through. If ascetics claim and are believed, then investigatives won't go there, it narrows down the target pool, and actually

increases

imbalance.

The only way that town ascetics balance out investigatives is if they're

mislynched

due to a no result coming up on them - and I'm being pushed due to a no result.

OTOH, if scum have RB as an option (and mod hinted at that when I complained about the options), then having ascetic along with another ability makes at least some sense. In that case it's better if the ascetic hasn't claimed, as if he's targeted it wastes a RB shot, and most of what we've seen has been X-shot. (Although I admittedly hadn't thought that through when I didn't claim, I just didn't think about it period.)

right, okay. but that assumes that the town ascetics would not claim their ascetic role modifier, which is pretty antitown for them to do. And I highly doubt that anyone town would choose to not disclose their ascetic

[Heat]

VOTE: persivul

[Apricity]

Heat, how do you feel about EAP?