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[monogarden]

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That post definitely moves you up the list of "people I want to keep around" if not the " towniest players" list.

Do you harbor a secret crush on Grendel that you're not telling anyone about?

[monogarden]

RadiantCowbells: {RadiantCowbells}
Katamari Damacy: {Pants98}
Batman: {Orange}
heaaay goodbye: {Monogarden, Fork}
Scummy Waffle Vendor: {Hobbes}
the fuck is this shit doing alive: {Grendel}

Don't feel left out, you are far and away the highlight of my night.

[RadiantCowbells]

this page is actually like

[RadiantCowbells]

pants can you, the moment you read this post, smack yourself in the face? please?

[RadiantCowbells]

like if you pay transport I can do it for you when my exams are done.

[RadiantCowbells]

{[]}{O r a n g e b o y s}
{[]}{Fork, heyboysihammeredthetracker}
{[]}{probs couldn't scale an anthill}
{[]}{terrible philosopher basketball player}
{[]}{not really looking for breadcrumbs}

[RadiantCowbells]

like page 8 drove me to drink.

you are responsible.

[RadiantCowbells]

Crap, I totally didn't think about that. Glad you caught that before discussion was ended prematurely.

UNVOTE: Pants

This is so awks.

[RadiantCowbells]

ALRIGHT.

I AM OFFICIALLY UP TO DATE.

Town: {Orange, Pants98}
Probtown: {Fork}
Leaning Town: {Monogarden}
Heavy FoS: {HobbesDuncan}
Scum: {Grendel}

[RadiantCowbells]

An Ode To Grendel: A Haiku By RadiantCowbells

grendel is obvscum
all must vote him when they can
get the scum lynching

[HobbesDuncan]

So, basically no matter which way Pants flips you have Orange as a top suspect regardless?
That logic seems iffy.

Mm... yeah, that's fair. Admittedly the reasoning is different for each scenario, but I see your point. Of course, reads based on the possibility of Pants flipping town are pretty tentative- Orange being scum is

less

likely in that situation, but I think I could still believe it.

So Orange is a large scumread for you no matter what

- what pushes Pants further on the scum scale than that to suggest the lynch order you've chosen?

Bolding mine, to emphasize the part I never actually said. I'm leaning scum on Orange, yes- but that lean is only strong if Pants flips scum. Otherwise it's just a slight lean, as I said above. Think... think the difference between being okay with lynching someone, and actively pushing to lynch them. Likewise, in the case of Pants, there's significantly more evidence to point to them being scum, so my scumread on Pants is much larger, as you put it. So the order is because which way Pants flips determines how I read Orange, and because my read on Pants has more to back it up.

Alright, today is catch up day.

mmmh, i expect scum to be lynched today

*salutes*

Prepare for dissapointment.

See. Stuff like this. They get prodded, and instead of trying to defend themselves or answer any of the questions posed to them they respond with... this. A townie would at least be

trying

to defend themselves- or, if not that, then at least giving out last thoughts so people have more information when they flip town. To not even try is... very not town, in my eyes.

monogarden- Agrees with Thor's case against Pants, Pants is their primary scumread outside of Grendel. Thinks case on Pants is solid but shouldn't be pushed as hard? Could be soft defending, maybe. As of D2, okay with voting Pants.

Can you expand on this? How would your read change if Pants flipped town?

Mmm... gimme some time to ISO mono, I'll get back to you tomorrow or Monday. As to if Pants flips town... honestly, at this point I see at as so unlikely that I want to take a "we'll burn that bridge if we come to it" approach, but I should probably give it serious thought so I have my reads out there if it does happen. Which, admittedly would require reevaluating pretty much everything, so I guess give me some time for that as well.

So, basically no matter which way Pants flips you have Orange as a top suspect regardless?
That logic seems iffy.

Mm... yeah, that's fair. Admittedly the reasoning is different for each scenario, but I see your point. Of course, reads based on the possibility of Pants flipping town are pretty tentative- Orange being scum is

less

likely in that situation, but I think I could still believe it.

What do you find scummy about me? I can address it to some degree if you point it out.

What do you think about Monogarden?

252 covers my thoughts on you pretty well- you came in reading Pants as town without ever really explaining why, said you'd get to an explanation on your apparently changed thoughts on them but never did, voted PC (which is the least scummy part of it but still relevant), and then only actually voted Pants on D2, which is after a scum partner would've had time to plan out bussing him, with the hammer as a plausible excuse. And, monogarden I covered (well, said I will eventually cover) above.

ALRIGHT.

I AM OFFICIALLY UP TO DATE.

Town: {Orange, Pants98}
Probtown: {Fork}
Leaning Town: {Monogarden}
Heavy FoS: {HobbesDuncan}
Scum: {Grendel}

Okay, while that whole readthrough was very entertaining, your strongest townreads are my primary scumread and the one I consider to be the most likely partner, and you think I'm probably scum and also apparently in the business of selling waffles? Which I still don't understand, but regardless. Entertaining as that was, it was more reactions than reasoning, so I'd like to know why you're viewing things the way you are.

[RadiantCowbells]

because I am RC.

[RadiantCowbells]

so what you're saying is that I'm going to need to give explanations and examples instead of just relying on "welp I'm RC."

[HobbesDuncan]

Haha. Explanations more than examples, but yes. Get that a lot, I take it?

also seriously what was with me being a waffle salesman I don't know this expression and the google is not being helpful

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean you're waffling.

going back and forth on your reads, not taking positions.

[HobbesDuncan]

Ahhhhh, thank you. I would disagree, but at least I get what you mean.

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  |  PANTS98          [ 1 / 4 ]                                            |
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  |    monogarden       HobbesDuncan     Pants98          Grendel          |
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[Thor665]

I actually wasn’t sure what you were asking, but didn’t want to look like an idiot for asking for elaboration on what could be simple questions to somebody else.

Mafia is, at its heart, a game of communication.
If you don't understand something you should absolutely make sure to ask about it.

If feel like I've just been talking to Thor for a while now, does anybody else have questions for me?

There has been an extended period of this game where I've been the only productive player - instead of asking other people to ask you questions (a continuing non-active stance) why don't you ask some questions to other people (like I've been doing) to generate conversation?

Thor, what are your thoughts on me as a player? I'm curious. And this is purely a question I ask for alignment indicative reasons.

I'm not entirely sure if you're looking for specifics or generalities. I'll answer in a general sense - low end journeyman.
With the caveat that I had to go back and look at a game of ours to get a broader feel for what I've seen from you before.
Please don't hammer yourself to get people to listen to you (unless you're scum, I suppose, then it's the bestest strategy evah!)

I absolutely loathed the way he reacted to my vote on him.

Me? I trusted him.
Me? I fought with him.
And me, I'm the damn fool who shot him.

Alright, today is catch up day.

mmmh, i expect scum to be lynched today

*salutes*

Prepare for dissapointment.

See. Stuff like this. They get prodded, and instead of trying to defend themselves or answer any of the questions posed to them they respond with... this. A townie would at least be

trying

to defend themselves- or, if not that, then at least giving out last thoughts so people have more information when they flip town. To not even try is... very not town, in my eyes.

I don't think this is as strong of a point as Hobbes appears to - but I do agree with it.

Ahhhhh, thank you. I would disagree, but at least I get what you mean.

I agree with this disagreement, and would like to see the waffling charge expanded upon.
@RC - back up that noise, your read through posts thus far are painfully lacking in anything of worth.

[Pants98]

I can't understand 85% of what I just read.

[Orange]

There has been an extended period of this game where I've been the only productive player - instead of asking other people to ask you questions (a continuing non-active stance) why don't you ask some questions to other people (like I've been doing) to generate conversation?

[Thor665]

I can't understand 85% of what I just read.

What don't you understand?

[Pants98]

I can't understand 85% of what I just read.

What don't you understand?

The page and a half of "Lolz" that RC wrote.

[RadiantCowbells]

Well that does serve as an alternate explanation for your reaction, Mr. Fork.
I felt like you were trying to discredit my read on you outright which felt scummy because I felt like you'd at least try to work with me if you were town.
So I'll move on from that.

The purpose of this exercise wasn't to show any thought processes to anyone, it was to get me personally on track about the game.
My primary scumread is also your tertiary scumread is also sufficiently obvscum that I expect the votes to pile on so I'm going to actually not do much else of note.
I'm not much for wallposting and intensely debating the relative scum merits of various plays. That ain't me.

If it'll take a case to get Grendel lynched though, I may be able to cook something up.

[RadiantCowbells]

I can't understand 85% of what I just read.

What don't you understand?

The page and a half of "Lolz" that RC wrote.

It served two purposes

1) To provide a structured way to force me to close read the game thoroughly and get my notes down on paper.
2) To show you that I'm actually coming from somewhere even if you don't fully understand it.

It's not really meant for your consumption so much as it is giving you a general picture of what I thought about different points in the game.

[RadiantCowbells]

Will I get promoted from journeyman if this is the third consecutive game in a row that you will have played with me where I was right about every last scum player?