Open 634: Sharing is Caring (Game Over)

[BlacleWorks]

At any point in the day if any CC's Masquerade we need to lynch Masquerade at all costs. If he is scum he is the mafia rolecop fishing for the JK.

So you Jk'd me to save yourself? Really? but your ready to be lynched for it today? Really?

[BlacleWorks]

Honestly that doesn't make any sense JK doesn't need to CC lynch this guy today. One of the people the framer told us to look at got investigated last night is likely the Cop, and Kuroi/Wgeurts is likely the mafia doc.

[Clumsy]

Yeah, doesn't make sense.

Either, spend a point and save your life (and offer it during the day? ???)
Don't spend the point, die and be proven.
OR even jail someone else you think is mafia? I would have gone for this or nothing. You could check someone, and see if there was a no kill from mafia. Maybe crumb who you were jailing the day before. Bam, game solved, gg. But jailing the vig is what you went for?

I'm not buying this. It seems like scum in a corner.

[Masquerade]

If you're referring to where I said 'hammer me' , I was being sarcastic there. Ofc I don't want be lynched.

[KuroiXHF]

If you're referring to where I said 'hammer me' , I was being sarcastic there. Ofc I don't want be lynched.

That actually wanted me to lynch you.

[Masquerade]

Believe me, don't believe me. I don't have much more to say here. I already made a post today with reads if anyone feels like discussing that I'll see so tomorrow.

[texcat]

UNVOTE:

Sigh.

[Clumsy]

Agh, deleted my own reply. >_<

I still want a CC. Reasons being

It gives us a 100% on scum. Either Masq, or the CC will be scum. That's good for us.
It makes 2 confirmed town. Even if they now have targets, there's only going to be 1 kill.
Makes it easier for the cop. Bam, 1 less person to check.
If we get a CC, scum is hung, we have a ton of time to get the right person. I think it'll solidify the win. However...

If we don't get a CC, and Masq is JK, and we hang them... It could quickly turn south for us. I think it's safer to wait on a CC.

[davesaz]

Official Vote Count

Masquerade

(4): chilledtea, SirCakez, Persivul, BlacleWorks

wgeurts

(1): Clumsy

Not Voting

(6): wgeurts, Maxous, Masquerade, KuroiXHF, Aneninen, texcat

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-04-28 10:59:33)

[SirCakez]

UNVOTE: since no CC obviously
Still was terrible play from Masq

[Clumsy]

We haven't had everyone post since his claim, so it's not out the window yet. Wgeurts, for instance, isn't in here yet, nor Max.

[texcat]

I do agree that JK should counterclaim. It appears that we've already used 3 of our 4 shots. The JK is basically vanilla at this point.

[Clumsy]

Mechanics

1. Daystart
   
2. "X" starts as 4, and decreases with each shot spent by one of the town power roles.
   
3. "Y" starts as 4, and decreases with each shot spent by one of the mafia power roles.
   
4. If X or Y goes below 0 in one night, all actions by that team will fail and no shots will be spent.
   
5. Every time a Town Power Role dies, X increases by 1.
   
6. Every time a Mafia Member dies, Y increases by 1.
   
7. Shots are expended regardless of action outcome (success/blocked/missed) unless prevented by #4 above.

[BlacleWorks]

Rereading the mechanics and I feel dumb for missing this. So we have 2-3 shots. Which is enough for us to lynch one guy investigate one and shoot one guy. Hopefully the cop didn't investigate Alexcellent LOL. Seeing as we have a game of what can go wrong will go wrong.

[chilledtea]

I am not the JK and I agree that the JK should claim. If you are the JK please counter claim, don't hide yourself, masquerade will get away with it if you don't counter claim.

Not taking my vote off because I still feel he is scum.

[chilledtea]

If we have a CC it will be from either pers/anen/wgeur/max.

[BlacleWorks]

Yup lets hold off on the lynch until someone CC's. I'm not ready to move forward until everyone has seen the claim and commented about it.

[Persivul]

You've thought of me as scum more than once this game, but I don't believe you've given me a reason why.

Maybe because you're so concerned about yourself.

[Persivul]

Not JK, and yes, JK should CC.

[Persivul]

VOTE: wguerts

[Aneninen]

I haven'T read anything because I don't have time right now.
Are we CC-ing a JK?
I'm not JK.

Reading later, hopefully today.

[Persivul]

This is a well-designed setup. I've been trying to run out optimum PR strategy but it's really tough. For instance, you first think scum would want to kill claimed PRs as they're conftown, but since that would give more shots to the cop, no, that's not necessarily the case.

[BlacleWorks]

It truly is. I realized early on that Vig shots were essentially free but I was under the impression that it only counts if vig gets the kill. and Yeah JK needs to claim.

[Persivul]

I realized early on that Vig shots were essentially free but I was under the impression that it only counts if vig gets the kill.

No, go back to the wiki page and read it again. If you kill scum, town still loses a shot, but scum gain a shot. IOW, the side that loses a PR gets the additional shot as compensation.

[Maxous]

i'm not a jailkeeper

VOTE: KuroiXHF

quick tl;dr: he was really aggressive early, got very quiet during the scum lynch and looks quiet and demotivated now because he lost a buddy

i'll give more thoughts tonight/tomorrow, sorry.