Newbie 1691 - Game Over

[mhsmith0]

Dropping the ball on YA on day 2 was a fuckup. Ircher seemed wolfier, and I pursued that instead. Clearly given irchers flip I was wrong to do so. Ya needed more pressure and attention that day.

Did he? Final answer?? But you've just said that you would've let Egg eat the rope instead. You could not have such short memory.

MIGHT HAVE. "Might" is not the same as "would". And "pressure and attention" is different than "we definitely would have lynched YA". If I didn't think egg was super slow playing a pr, I MIGHT have been more ok with his lynch (which I do think would likely have happened if I'd been less aggressive about pushing the ircher lynch that day). I MIGHT have put more effort into questioning everyone else. I MIGHT have done a lot of things.

Honestly, I'm not actually sure what you're trying to argue here. You're creating a contradiction where I really don't see one.

[SummerInWonderland]

2/3 scum candidates are pushing to lynch YA ...
I think that contributes to the idea that both u and kaag are scum

[SummerInWonderland]

VOTE: kaag

[mhsmith0]

Well, we will soon know if it was a ya/egg team after all. I am NOT voting at this time.

[mhsmith0]

Ps It's possible. Frankly, the clear preference for lynching egg earlier today made me more suspicious of a ya/kaag team. Like I said earlier, it's difficult.

[mhsmith0]

PPs if it really is a ya/egg team, and I've been wrong all along, I sincerely apologize for not doing a better job this game.

[Almost50]

@Summer:

I've seen them both in action before. I can foresee/predict what each of them would do. KAAG's play is not as elaborate as smith's. smith is a strong player (and even more so as scum, but I won't provides quotes or references at this time) and is the type of player who enjoys slowing down the game to the point of boredom. KAAG -on the other hand- is a bit more impulsive, yet not too impulsive. If KAAG was scum I'd have expected him to be voting already. It doesn't have to be inside YA/Me. He could've been voting smith.

smith on the other hand IS waiting to hammer for the win. That's how he is and how he plays. he stays off wagons early in the game, but at this point he will wait for one bad vote placed on me to lol-hammer and call it a game. I would've been less confident if I didn't actually replace in previously in a game where KAAg was town (and was already dead when I replaced in, but I had to read through it all bc it was me who finally dropped the hammer on the last scum and brought the town the win. I do NOT claim to have done it all by myself, nor do I even take credit for it. It just so happened that I received my role PM during the night and I managed to ling the two remaining scum to the one who had already flipped, and when the day started the Vig had already taken care of one of them, so all I needed was to post my unedited raw material remarks and place a vote which ended the game.

Suffice it to say, when you replace in late you get a better view than if you start the game of replace in early.

@KAAG:

Does Eggman strike you as the player who could pull this stunt off? I mean, do you REALLY feel like my slot could be scum with YA given the way Eggman played?? Think about it.

[Almost50]

Well, we will soon know if it was a ya/egg team after all. I am NOT voting at this time.

I know that. You must wait for YA to come online to do that quick double on KAAG. He's asleep right now bc it's well after midnight (2:30 am??).

GG all, and special congrats to you smith. I know you were the director behind the scenes, but -also- YA did well playing the VI (much close to KT, but not identical. KT does it better).

[KickAssAndGiggle]

LOL, first time I think I've ever been happy to have an upset stomach.

None of your points undo Eggman on D2 Almost.

What

does

is that both smith and Summer had been on the verge of voting me, but you made a case on smith. You wouldn't do that as scum. The fact they can't see this means one is scum, one is newb. And Summer is confirmed, so...

VOTE: YawningAngel

[Almost50]

PPs if it really is a ya/egg team, and I've been wrong all along, I sincerely apologize for not doing a better job this game.

STOP IT, mate! You and I both know you're MUCH better than that. You're no fool, so just don't try to pretend you are.

[mhsmith0]

I can provide quotes and references to my wolf game

Spoiler: my wolf game

its shitty

http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/thr ... alad-Mafia
http://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/thr ... Princesses

Two games, two d2 lynches (the latter as a sub coming in on d2 no less), two town wins (close results thanks to my buddies, as well as town dysfunction, not me). Other than turbos, that's my wolf game record.

My completed town game, btw, was a wolf team sweep:
http://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/view ... 14&t=52035

Though at least in the latter I got killed on n2 instead of the jk, so that was nice.

Ps I really, REALLY wish my wolf game was as good as you describe. Because what you'll see in those games is something much different. Those were high level games, but it was SUPER clear I didn't belong in that crowd. I got DESTROYED in those games.

[mhsmith0]

LOL, first time I think I've ever been happy to have an upset stomach.

None of your points undo Eggman on D2 Almost.

What

does

is that both smith and Summer had been on the verge of voting me, but you made a case on smith. You wouldn't do that as scum. The fact they can't see this means one is scum, one is newb. And Summer is confirmed, so...

VOTE: YawningAngel

Kaag/egg remains a possibility in my book, fwiw. He could totally do that as your buddy. It argues against ya/egg though, unless a50 was playing an awesome wolf game there. Tip of the cap if so. If I'm to lose, I'd rather blame it on really good play from the other team than my own ineptness.

[Almost50]

smith, wasn't you who said they got to the top 20 list of players on another site a while ago? Or am I confusing you with someone else?

[mhsmith0]

smith, wasn't you who said they got to the top 20 list of players on another site a while ago? Or am I confusing you with someone else?

Someone else. I have three completed non turbo games to my name. I just linked them. I think I have some promise, but there's a common thread in my three straight losses

[Almost50]

If I'm to lose, I'd rather blame it on really good play from the other team than my own ineptness.

Vote YAWN and you still won't lose. Not today at the very least.

[mhsmith0]

If I'm to lose, I'd rather blame it on really good play from the other team than my own ineptness.

Vote YAWN and you still won't lose. Not today at the very least.

It might be kaag and you though. I see the board as two wolves in three players. If it's ya/a50 we've lost. If it's not, then on to day three, and suddenly it gets a LOT more interesting (hint: I'm conf!town if kaag flips wolf since we could have EASILY hammered you or ya by now).

[mhsmith0]

And playing conf!town interrogator against you and YA could be a lot of fun.

[Almost50]

You could even NK me next and get away with it on WIFOM. If KAAG is the other scum he would totally be shooting me to implicate you. It's a win-win situation for you.

P-edit: I know that. I mean, it was the very first thing I started off with that you both could not be scum together.

[Almost50]

And playing conf!town interrogator against you and YA could be a lot of fun.

You're not shaking me, mate. I know what I'm doing and I have utter faith in my reads here in this game.

[mhsmith0]

Well, we will soon know if it was a ya/egg team after all. I am NOT voting at this time.

I know that. You must wait for YA to come online to do that quick double on KAAG. He's asleep right now bc it's well after midnight (2:30 am??).

GG all, and special congrats to you smith. I know you were the director behind the scenes, but -also- YA did well playing the VI (much close to KT, but not identical. KT does it better).

Wait a god damn minute... How the HELL do you know that????????????

[Almost50]

I could've settled for a case on YA to get people to vote him if I was scum. Why would I go through the trouble of finding the OTHER scum when we're already in LyLo?

p-edit: How the hell do I know what? That he's a brit? Or the local time in London?

[mhsmith0]

He's english? Did he say that? He's posted at this hour before iirc.

[mhsmith0]

Kaag is english, but it don't recall that from YA.

[mhsmith0]

I mean, it's half five in the morning here, I'm allowed to sleep

Ok I see this one. So it's not a wolf chat slip. You super scared me there a50.

[Almost50]

You just weren't paying much attention to the main thread. You were more concerned with your private chat in the Mafia QT.
check his 1046 and subsequent few posts.