New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

Performer · Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2016 2:15 pm

In post 1143, Fraggernaut wrote:Was debating if I was going to V/LA due to a workplace injury I sustained last night, but I'm going to try to keep up with this.

Sorry to hear about that, man. Hope you get better soon and get to work...stop being lazy! Hehe

In post 1146, Ilikebugs wrote:Ok I think that I am more comfortable with Drixx as my town read. He's been acting more chill than I would think he would act as scum.

This guy Ilikebugs, is too funny. I haven't gotten a scumread from him in this game. I'm curious, what do you think about Aristophanes and the Boon replace out?

Killthestory · Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:12 pm

In post 1173, Performer wrote:
Come on Firebringer; you know that if I wanted to insult you I could make it smell like roses and look like diamonds.

Drixx's quote here is too funny...what on earth?? Lol
And Killthestory on pgs 43-44...I need to check his meta because I'm stuck between laughing so hard at his posts there, and wondering what's going on

at least someone likes my quality shitposts

Killthestory · Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:13 pm

ozgin's post regarding me is also pretty accurate. i give him a kek out of a topkek

Egg · Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:49 pm

Ok, time to catch up.

I don't like Drixx's "idiot ball" stuff or Frag's one line response to Ozgin's case. If the Firebringer lynch for some reason can't happen, I'm going to have one hell of a time deciding between these two.

Bugs, I get that you are scumreading Ira, but why did you describe his lynch as "safe"? The power role claim makes his lynch risky if anything. I also see that you unvoted. Who would you like to lynch if not Ira?

Kickass, you called Drixx the scummiest you've ever seen and a page later said you were torn on him. If he's that scummy, shouldn't you want him turbolynched? In your past game with him, was he ever under heavy pressure? That simple fact can drastically alter someone's play. Also, based on your reasoning for voting Guy, I have to ask: what is your read on Snark?

Jam's Guy vote sucks.

KickAssAndGiggle · Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:04 pm

Kickass, you called Drixx the scummiest you've ever seen and a page later said you were torn on him. If he's that scummy, shouldn't you want him turbolynched? In your past game with him, was he ever under heavy pressure? That simple fact can drastically alter someone's play. Also, based on your reasoning for voting Guy, I have to ask: what is your read on Snark?

I'm torn on Drixx because he HAS got one of the scummiest ISOs I've ever seen and yet I know he's a smart chap. I'm finding it unlikely scum Drixx acts like this,

very

unlikely. If you want me to call it gut, then OK: my gut says to be patient there and wait for his reads.

Snarky's ISO is unacceptably short but contains less fluff posting. If Guy wasn't in the game, I'd probably be voting there for the same reason.

If someone has a better solution to getting people who won't post significantly to start doing so other than voting them, clue me in please.

Egg · Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:08 pm

In your past game with Drixx, was he ever under heavy pressure?

KickAssAndGiggle · Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:15 pm

At times, especially once his partner died.

I didn't decide rashly here, I have considered it, and if his reads/further contributions are boohickey, I'll revisit, have no fear there.

Drixx · Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:19 pm

KAAG gave me the biggest challenge of any new player to the site I've ever played against. He's understating things when he says I was under heavy pressure "at times".

If you are super curious about what kept me tied up today, you know where to look. For obvious reasons I can't and won't say more.

Firebringer · Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Mon Apr 18, 2016 7:26 pm

In post 1167, DrippingGoofball wrote:iraonavp is town BTW

DGB is town btw.
Not even joking.

jam · Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:24 am

Prod dodge. For the record, I think DGB is town as well. I also noticed KAAG contradicting himself, which could be sloppy or could be scum.

ISO · Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:50 am

@KAAG: I've seen Drixx's scumgame in a Newbie and it was pretty different from this. But you play differently when you're ICing, and differently still if you need to mislead newbies. And I think the "too smart to play this badly as scum" towntell is bogus.

Drixx · Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:47 am

Can I just say something? My meta is like ... the exact opposite of having a meta. I'm literally

always

tinkering with my game. Most of the time I learn stuff and get better. Slandaar was around for a disastrous attempt to inject Kuribo style into my game last year. All this talk about my meta is not really helpful. Just let me get some fires put out and actually be present here more than surface level and judge me on that.

Trying to out think what I would or wouldn't do if I draw scum is exactly why I do well as scum. I suspect it helps most people when they draw scum if the players with them are making bad assumptions. So just erm... don't? I'm not scum, but if I were you would totally be making a huge mistake by trying to figure that out via meta. Since you're doing that with me, it seems likely you may do so with others as well, and that's the part that I'm really trying to knock sense into you about. I'm not going to bite (this game), but there are others who more than might.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:02 am

I think Fragger is town.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:02 am

Also meta is BS.

Ilikebugs · Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:03 am

In post 1178, Egg wrote:Ok, time to catch up.

I don't like Drixx's "idiot ball" stuff or Frag's one line response to Ozgin's case. If the Firebringer lynch for some reason can't happen, I'm going to have one hell of a time deciding between these two.

Bugs, I get that you are scumreading Ira, but why did you describe his lynch as "safe"? The power role claim makes his lynch risky if anything. I also see that you unvoted. Who would you like to lynch if not Ira?

Kickass, you called Drixx the scummiest you've ever seen and a page later said you were torn on him. If he's that scummy, shouldn't you want him turbolynched? In your past game with him, was he ever under heavy pressure? That simple fact can drastically alter someone's play. Also, based on your reasoning for voting Guy, I have to ask: what is your read on Snark?

Jam's Guy vote sucks.

If I would have to choose someone right now, drippinggoofball hasn't been contributing too much and is just fillering for the most part.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:06 am

GO eat bugs

ISO · Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:22 am

In post 1188, DrippingGoofball wrote:Also meta is BS.

I half-agree with this. Meta is useful for disproving tells ("Player X is scum because he did Y." "Actually, he does Y even as town, so that doesn't say anything about his alignment.") but not for proving them ("Player X did Y as scum. He must be scum here for doing Y."). So I think looking at Drixx's scum meta is helpful in establishing that he doesn't play in a consistent way as scum, and therefore should not be townread for his playstyle.

Drixx · Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:52 am

In post 1191, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1188, DrippingGoofball wrote:Also meta is BS.

I half-agree with this. Meta is useful for disproving tells ("Player X is scum because he did Y." "Actually, he does Y even as town, so that doesn't say anything about his alignment.") but not for proving them ("Player X did Y as scum. He must be scum here for doing Y."). So I think looking at Drixx's scum meta is helpful in establishing that he doesn't play in a consistent way as scum, and therefore should not be townread for his playstyle.

Good post.

The only thing you can depend upon to be NAI for me is my activity level. I play as actively as I can in every game regardless of alignment or role. If my activity dips, it means something is causing it. Like ... you can look at every single game on site and see that as the single consistency.

My wife has today off and we're down to the last 3 episodes of Sons of Anarchy. I may be able to sneak in a more substantive post while she's fixing dinner (her turn!).

SnarkySnowman · Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:36 am

In post 1189, Ilikebugs wrote:
If I would have to choose someone right now, drippinggoofball hasn't been contributing too much and is just fillering for the most part.

Agree.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:07 am

In post 1193, SnarkySnowman wrote:
In post 1189, Ilikebugs wrote:
If I would have to choose someone right now, drippinggoofball hasn't been contributing too much and is just fillering for the most part.

Agree.

You should want to lynch yourself.

Firebringer · Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:22 pm

DGB, do you think Drixx is still scum?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:28 pm

I haven't bothered reading his latest posts because he's scum LOL

Drixx · Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:30 pm

DGB called me scum in SaGa Frontier also. I wasn't. So far I've seen nothing in DGB's play that matches up with the level of awe some people on the site seem to have for her. Perhaps she's still kicking the rust off?

;p

Egg · Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:57 pm

In post 1186, Drixx wrote:Can I just say something? My meta is like ... the exact opposite of having a meta. I'm literally
always
tinkering with my game. Most of the time I learn stuff and get better. Slandaar was around for a disastrous attempt to inject Kuribo style into my game last year. All this talk about my meta is not really helpful. Just let me get some fires put out and actually be present here more than surface level and judge me on that.

Trying to out think what I would or wouldn't do if I draw scum is exactly why I do well as scum. I suspect it helps most people when they draw scum if the players with them are making bad assumptions. So just erm... don't? I'm not scum, but if I were you would totally be making a huge mistake by trying to figure that out via meta. Since you're doing that with me, it seems likely you may do so with others as well, and that's the part that I'm really trying to knock sense into you about. I'm not going to bite (this game), but there are others who more than might.

Hmm. towniest Drixx post of the game...

KickAssAndGiggle · Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:59 pm

In post 1130, Drixx wrote:When my in-laws drive away I hope to find myself not lynched already, because I totally actually have some notes and investment in the game already. If you all could restrain yourselves for a day and a half and wait and see, that would be pretty cool. If not; that's life. (Or death, as it were).

We've restrained ourselves. So...where is it?