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Post Post #2675 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:55 am

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Hey, Gale, Breeze is not allowed to submit orders in private for Radja. Did Radja submit those orders?
Also Bella why do you keep holding in Vienna? <_<
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Post Post #2676 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:59 am

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In post 2645, Radja wrote:
I give control of all my territory and armies to TheBreeze.


Gg y'all. I need to step away from this

Idk what to make of this, but it seems like a Master-Aide alliance to me.

Btw the current orders were the ones submitted by TheBreeze for Radja.
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Post Post #2677 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:07 am

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In post 2454, Fluminator wrote:Yes, a potential situational order is to do what another player publicly says. You can't submit orders on behalf of someone.
Although this mechanic was designed for people who couldn't make the moves.
It's literally less time consuming to just quickly put an order in though. ;_; It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes ever unless you're about to win.
If I don't get anything soon I'll go to the next phase.

I mean that it's come up before and this is what Fluminator said on the subject.
I don't actually mind if it's done that way this once but I mean, we went over it in detail in the thread before.
Can you discuss it with Flumi?
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Post Post #2678 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:14 am

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The concern is that it circumvents public press by allowing two player to corridnate privately. (In that one player dictates both moves) by contrast breeze knew all the moves shadoweh and I were planning to make because we had to corridnate in thread.
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Post Post #2679 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:16 am

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You, I and Bella were going to make! Which is how he tricked Bella into letting him take one of her supply centers. Again. :V\
I told you moving to Pie was a better idea, I figured something like that might happen.
Army in Smy is pretty obv what we should do I think.
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Post Post #2680 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:29 am

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Mhm sure thing. Will discuss this with Fluminator and see how to resolve it. Time would be added if a change is made to the map, based on when it is resolved.
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Post Post #2681 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:35 am

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Well Radja says he doesn't want to play anymore so I could just absorb his land? Can't that be a thing?

Either way the damage is done as I wasn't told anything that about not being able to do something so I planned out my actions accordingly
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Post Post #2682 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:43 am

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In post 2681, TheBreeze wrote:Well Radja says he doesn't want to play anymore so I could just absorb his land? Can't that be a thing?

Either way the damage is done as I wasn't told anything that about not being able to do something so I planned out my actions accordingly


Every other time we've done it the orders have been in public. You know that.
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Post Post #2683 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:46 am

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That was for your specific arrangement with Loki
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Post Post #2684 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:47 am

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Aniiiways, welcome home Cheery!
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Post Post #2685 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:56 am

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That was the plan for when OGML also went AWOL.
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Post Post #2686 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:07 am

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The official rules is if someone wished to give control over to someone else, the way they can do that is send in conditional orders to have their armies set to whatever someone else publicly says. Someone can't privately give orders for someone else because then you can just have multiple people in an alliance give control to one person and one of the main points of this variant is how well you can coordinate publicly with others.
Radja's orders sent in were
Rumania move to Serbia
Galicia move to Rumania
Ukraine move to sevastopol

The differences this makes is Bellaphent still has 3, but has the army in Budapest instead of Serbia, and Radja's army would retreat to Ukraine, but still has two.
I think the right way to solve it is fixing Radja's moves.
Before we officially rule it, TheBreeze said he based his move around being able to control Radja. What would you have done differently had you known you had no control over Radja?
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Post Post #2687 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:31 am

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Not sure what the ruling is but Radjas moves should be public press if submitted by someone else. That's what ani did with Loki.
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Post Post #2688 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:44 am

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Damn and blast. Scandinavia has fallen.
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Post Post #2689 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:59 am

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Thanks for keeping Munich safe for me.

It's will spawn an army
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Post Post #2690 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:04 am

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Bella, seeing how you'll basically keep all the places you currently have, I think you should disband Trieste as the other two are frontline tanks and the tank in Sil is in a good support cutting position.
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Post Post #2691 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:49 am

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So Ani, what do we do now?
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Post Post #2692 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:56 am

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It doesn't look like there's really any way to save myself from here unless I have some support from the rest of the MedAgree?
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Post Post #2693 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:04 pm

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Yeah Ani attacking mist was not cool. I still support you mist. But it's looking bleak.
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Post Post #2694 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 1:01 pm

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Don't build fleets or i will attack.
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Post Post #2695 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:03 pm

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In post 2693, Nyalite wrote:Yeah Ani attacking mist was not cool. I still support you mist. But it's looking bleak.


She hadn't done anything for the last ear! I figured she had forgotten or something.
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Post Post #2696 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:47 pm

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You could make a fleet and let mist take her supply center back and just call it trading an army for a fleet. All the fleets of the medagree would be really powerful if we sail them up north.

Matty you could help us, deathnote is going to turn to you now as you are the next easiest territory for him to go after unless he betrays breeze.
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Post Post #2697 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:53 pm

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In post 2689, Cheery Dog wrote:Thanks for keeping Munich safe for me.

It's will spawn an army

Orders Received
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The game has been updated and time has been added. TheBreeze should have mentioned the changes to Radja's orders in public. And since he didn't do that, it is treated as a set of impossible orders.

As per rule 3: You may send impossible orders, but it will fail to succeed.
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Post Post #2698 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:02 pm

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Tbh if I were Deathnote I would swallow Norway whole.
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Post Post #2699 (ISO) » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:37 pm

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Bella I think by the fall you could have two new supply centers if you leave your troops in sil?
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