Open 634: Sharing is Caring (Game Over)

[Ranger]

I've got a town lean on Chilled, which just got confirmed by Blade wanting to shoot him. Don't do it, Blade!

This is the closest thing I could find to texcat 'crumbing a result, so I'm hoping that I can trust this and that chilledtea is town.

I'm pretty sure that I'm still not shooting though, given shooting would get us to evens.

[Ranger]

Alexcellent (4): Clumsy, SirCakez, Maxous, texcat

Chances are decent this isn't all-town, but heck if I know where to look in {Clumsy, SirCakez, Maxous}.

{SirCakez}
{Maxous}
{Aneninen}
{Clumsy, Persivul}

I'll be explicit: this is not me scumreading Clumsy nor Persivul. It's right now, as of page two, a graded scale of my very weak townreads. SirCakez looks the best, but is still weak town; Maxous doesn't look as good as SirCakez, but still looks better than Aneninen, who was nulltown, with Clumsy and Persivul being null.

[Ranger]

{SirCakez}
{Aneninen}
{Maxous}
{Clumsy, Persivul}

Off of page 3, SirCakez becomes a real townread, as the first to seriously push the shotty wagon; that was probably not a bus.
By my gut, I liked Aneninen's posting there too, albeit only just enough to have him surpass Maxous.

[Ranger]

Worthy of note: the egotistical part of me wants to say Persivul if scum wouldn't let me live through the night, with the same also applying to SirCakez. Clumsy, Aneninen, and Maxous would, by that logic, be the three players most likely to let me live, but while I actually

do

have basis for this (namely: I'm confirmed town, was a replacement during the night), pragmatically I can't rule Persivul out because my death would have powered the cop up who would have a guaranteed-accuracy result thanks to the framer death. Plus, scum have a rolecop so it probably wasn't a lucky shot.

[Ranger]

As of page 6, my best offer for a lynch would be Clumsy, but it's just a guess at this stage. Still reading.

[Ranger]

As of seven, I really don't think I'm going to lynch SirCakez today.
I also don't think I'm going to lynch Aneninen, either.
Given the probable clear on chilledtea, I'm willing to gambit on scum being within {Maxous, Persivul, Clumsy}, but I'm not absolutely sold on the town name in there.

When you three read this: you're gonna need to get me a really good reason why you're the town in there.

[chilledtea]

To make your job very easy, texcat scumread KT's slot on day 1 and town read me on day 2. I thought she is cop when she did that, but clumsy had left a lot of crumbs which made me feel he could be the cop, but he wasn't. The rolecop probably was on texcat n2 because of this, and she got taken out n3 after the results.

[Ranger]

That was more or less my conclusion as well.

[Ranger]

BlacleWorks (6): Alexcellent, wgeurts, Aneninen, KainTepes, SirCakez, texcat (L-1)

This concerns me, namely, that if my townread on Anen is right, and my townread on SirCakez is right, this would be an all-town wagon.

However, given 225 looks like scum staying on the sidelines: I see it as definitely possible.

[Ranger]

I also didn't like 230/233.

It's as if Persivul knew a hammer would look worse than not doing anything.

[Ranger]

237 is really skeevy, too: it's advocating leaving the vig wide-open to attack.

[Ranger]

250 reminds me a lot of newbie-scum play I've seen before.

253 reading both shotty and Persivul as town also doesn't look great for Clumsy, either.

[Ranger]

For the record, I'll need to check the isos side by side in detail to confirm, but at a glance, Clumsy's scum iso in this game holds a great resemblance to his play this game.

[Ranger]

texcat (6): KuroiXHF, Maxous, Persivul, KainTepes, Alexcellent, Masquerade L-1
wgeurts (2): BlacleWorks, Clumsy
Aneninen (1): drmyshottyizsik
drmyshottyizsik (1): SirCakez

I'd like to point out texcat got to L-1 as well. This wagon on the other hand feels like it does have at least one scum on it. Critically, however, shotty is voting Aneninen and SirCakez is voting shotty. Again, neither are likely scum as a result. Ergo, {Maxous, Persivul, Clumsy} contains the scum.

[Ranger]

F-ck this shyt! Haven't I told you that Texcat is a Day1 mislynch magnet?! As far as I can remember, whenever she was lynched on Day1, there was a town loss later! And I f-cking don't care how bad I look by posting this. I don't think she's scum, period. If she happens to be one, you can try to lynch me Tomorrow. Fair trade, I suppose, isn't it?

This is in stark contrast to Clumsy and Persivul when they offered intent on my slot; Aneninen was actually defending texcat.

[Ranger]

327 is a good case. Nothing Persivul says makes me feel better about him. In fact, what he says makes him look even worse, particularly him bringing up his real life. I don't recall seeing those excuses in a contemporary game where he was town, yet he gave them here and not there.

[Ranger]

It is, of course, worth noting I read him as scum that game too so there's good reason why I'm not voting him right now.

[Ranger]

I mean, his later posting gives me conflicted feelings. (At about 20.)

But: I'm pretty sure Aneninen is town.
I'm pretty sure SirCakez is town.

So, POE means I have to at least consider him.
Gun to my head, I'd choose {Maxous, Clumsy}.
Right now I really think Clumsy's the right lynch.

But I'm not lynching anyone until I've caught up and done my fact-checking.

[Ranger]

514 we know was pushing all onto town, whereas if you look at the previous votecount,

Persivul (4): texcat, wgeurts, drmyshottyizsik, KuroiXHF
drmyshottyizsik (3): SirCakez, Aneninen, Persivul
wgeurts (2): BlacleWorks, Clumsy
texcat (2): Maxous, KainTepes

These are the important votes.

Really thinking this wasn't bussing right now.

[Ranger]

At the end of D1.

I really do think it's {Maxous, Clumsy} at this point, but I need to finish catching up and sleep on it.

Not in that order.

I didn't realize it had gotten this late; I need some sleep.

[SirCakez]

My lynch pool today was going to be (Max, Chilled, Clumsy) but I think Ranger's right that that was a crumb clear. I remember thinking it was a bizarre townread at the time, makes much more sense if she had a clear on him.
So then yeah Max or Clumsy is fine for the lynch today.

[chilledtea]

VOTE: Maxous

I am parking my vote here. I would rather lynch persivul but I don't have time and I might not check this thread for some time now. So you guys think carefully before making your move alright.

[Clumsy]

My lynch pool today was going to be (Max, Chilled, Clumsy) but I think Ranger's right that that was a crumb clear. I remember thinking it was a bizarre townread at the time, makes much more sense if she had a clear on him.
So then yeah Max or Clumsy is fine for the lynch today.

Yeah, I think it's a good bet that was a crumb.

For the record, I'll need to check the isos side by side in detail to confirm, but at a glance, Clumsy's scum iso in this game holds a great resemblance to his play this game.

How does it exactly? Like, actual question.


I'm a little out of touch with this game (partially because of our last game Ranger), so I'm gonna re-read everything and get a fresh look. This will have to be tomorrow probably, have D&D with friends today. I'll get back to you on it.

[Ranger]

How does it exactly? Like, actual question.

The focus on theory, treatment of key players (e.g. scumbuddies, namely, shotty this game compared to BROseidon that game), things like that all pinged me, but like I said, I need to finish my readthrough.

That won't be happening today; I have something going on tonight which will eat up all my free time. But it should happen tomorrow.

[Aneninen]

Let me think.

TexCat seems to have investigated ChilledTea, because of 737.

And I know I was responsible for lynching Wgeurts. Sorry about that.

But I'll try to do some VCA next.