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Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:58 pm

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Okay big borhter, what do you think of Calvary?
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Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:58 pm

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VC 1.12
Lapsa (1):
acryon
Garmr (3):
MURDERCAT, Lapsa, JarJarDrinks,
JarJarDrinks (3):
Mr Meeseeks, Fire Assassin, Garmr
Postie (2):
Calvary, nnn_thekushmountains
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I Am Innocent
MURDERCAT (1):
RadiantCowbells, Expedience

Not Voting (0):


With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2016-04-26 12:00:00)

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Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:00 pm

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In post 1099, MURDERCAT wrote:I'll tell you tomorrow

Good luck with that then, I hope you return before you've been lynched.
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Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:01 pm

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Me too
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Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:04 pm

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Im not quite sure tbh.

do you think shes scum?
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Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:06 pm

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I had a slight townread originally because of how clear all of Calvary's thoughts were and how they made sense but I'm re-ISOing now and like... there's lots of explaining but not a lot of actually taking any stances?
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Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:07 pm

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ok but liiek

do you wnt voe or no?
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Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:22 pm

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I think I'm liking Calvary more for scum, yeah.

VOTE: Calvary

They're doing a lot of digging into and questioning other people's reasoning, but providing barely any of their own; they're doing stuff but they're not really making an conclusions from the stuff they're doing, so it reads like fake scumhunting. They did do a pretty extensive case on Fire but I found the reasoning really lacklustre and mediocre.
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Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:23 pm

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ok

VOTE: calvyar[/vote[]

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Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 5:57 pm

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In post 1087, RadiantCowbells wrote:garmrm is town

really dont think so
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Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:22 pm

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VOTE: Cavalry

JarJar, vote Cavarly as well or you could be lynched because you are a competing wagon.
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Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:32 pm

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VOTE: Calvary
Still on my scum list after the case I made. With lapsa leaving (thank god) it kinda makes me feel I might be wrong about that slot. JarJar can be proven day 2.
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Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 6:39 pm

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VOTE: calvary
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Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 10:45 pm

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Dunno how close calvry is but id want to refilter. The lynch doesn't strike me as bad though.

Regarding meeseeks, those consprcy theories are easier for mafia to fake than people realize. I'm gonna have to re-read it.
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Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:37 am

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L-2

Calvary, come out come out wherever u are!
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Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 12:43 am

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VOTE: Calvary
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Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:16 am

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I disagree with this wagon.

In post 1107, Postie wrote:I think I'm liking Calvary more for scum, yeah.

VOTE: Calvary

They're doing a lot of digging into and questioning other people's reasoning, but providing barely any of their own; they're doing stuff but they're not really making an conclusions from the stuff they're doing, so it reads like fake scumhunting.
They did do a pretty extensive case on Fire but I found the reasoning really lacklustre and mediocre.


The bolded directly contradicts the first part of what you are saying. There is a huge case on fire, with counterpoints considered, and the case is pretty damn good for being that early in day 1.
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Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:24 am

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In post 1107, Postie wrote:They're doing a lot of digging into and questioning other people's reasoning, but providing barely any of their own; they're doing stuff but they're not really making an conclusions from the stuff they're doing, so it reads like fake scumhunting.

This is fake scumhunting actually. Speaking in generalities, and flat out wrong.
Calvary talks a lot about her reads.
Here's just one example where she explains her vote on autti:
In post 822, Calvary wrote:
In post 819, Fire Assassin wrote:@Cavalry, mind explaining your scum read on Autti?


I am in the process of rereading his posts, but the main reason is that I feel like he is going for the easy player criticisms/ targets. Something about the way he words his critiques is insincere, like he's chiding players as opposed to legitimately hunting for scum. Going through the motions, as it were.


In Calvary, the auttislot has found a great target who has been afk and isn't here to defend herself. And you sheeps went onto the wagon without even reading Calvary's filter. Shame on you.
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Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 1:51 am

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In post 1116, nnn_thekushmountains wrote:I disagree with this wagon.

In post 1107, Postie wrote:I think I'm liking Calvary more for scum, yeah.

VOTE: Calvary

They're doing a lot of digging into and questioning other people's reasoning, but providing barely any of their own; they're doing stuff but they're not really making an conclusions from the stuff they're doing, so it reads like fake scumhunting.
They did do a pretty extensive case on Fire but I found the reasoning really lacklustre and mediocre.


The bolded directly contradicts the first part of what you are saying. There is a huge case on fire, with counterpoints considered, and the case is pretty damn good for being that early in day 1.

Kush was I wrong about you is Calvary your scum buddy? Because that debunk is terribad. You can post an extensive case and have it be bad. Also I debunked the fire case and if you thought it was a good case I would question your credentials as a mafia player.


In post 1117, nnn_thekushmountains wrote:
In post 1107, Postie wrote:They're doing a lot of digging into and questioning other people's reasoning, but providing barely any of their own; they're doing stuff but they're not really making an conclusions from the stuff they're doing, so it reads like fake scumhunting.

This is fake scumhunting actually. Speaking in generalities, and flat out wrong.
Calvary talks a lot about her reads.
Here's just one example where she explains her vote on autti:
In post 822, Calvary wrote:
In post 819, Fire Assassin wrote:@Cavalry, mind explaining your scum read on Autti?


I am in the process of rereading his posts, but the main reason is that I feel like he is going for the easy player criticisms/ targets. Something about the way he words his critiques is insincere, like he's chiding players as opposed to legitimately hunting for scum. Going through the motions, as it were.


In Calvary, the auttislot has found a great target who has been afk and isn't here to defend herself. And you sheeps went onto the wagon without even reading Calvary's filter. Shame on you.

I honestly don't think her case there is good. It just uses fancy words only a sucker would fool for that with out looking into it. It basically says "he is just pretending to scum hunt on easy players." Which I would argue is subjective and I disagree with, because my reads were similar to his early game and I am town, I Don't know if they are the same now through.
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Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:00 am

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Garmr, it really doesn't matter if calvary's case is bad. It negates the first part of Postie's argument that Calvary isnt' giving opinions of her own.

Furthermore, calvary later changed her read on fire. She knew it wasn't a definitive case and she never treated it as that.
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Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:01 am

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Well here case against Autti isn't great, but against someone with low activity, you can't really make a great case. But that example is just there to show you that Postie is full of shit.
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Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:13 am

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In post 1119, nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Garmr, it really doesn't matter if calvary's case is bad. It negates the first part of Postie's argument that Calvary isnt' giving opinions of her own.

Furthermore, calvary later changed her read on fire. She knew it wasn't a definitive case and she never treated it as that.

Well there is my case which is pretty good. Also barely doesn't mean never gives own opinions. It just means a lack of them. A majority of cavalry posts tell us nothing.
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Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:35 am

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In post 1110, Expedience wrote:VOTE: Cavalry

JarJar, vote Cavarly as well or you could be lynched because you are a competing wagon.

Don't like this post at all. Don't worry, I'm aware of where the votes are now and obviously If it comes down to me vs Cavalry (or any player), I'll vote out of self preservation since I'm 100% sure of my own allegiance.

But I don't like being told I better vote someone or risk getting lynched.
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Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:38 am

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In post 1087, RadiantCowbells wrote:acryon may notb e town but
im not voting v/la

In post 1112, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: calvary

acryon has posted more recently than calvary. Explain urself.
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Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:11 am

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In post 1113, nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Regarding meeseeks, those consprcy theories are easier for mafia to fake than people realize. I'm gonna have to re-read it.

Reread it yet?

Also can u think of any scum motivation for him to put forth that theory and basically flipflop his read of you and Lapsa?

Cause to me, it looks like a natural thought progression of someone that is tunneled on me being scum.

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