Open 635 - JK9++ (Game Over)

[SirCakez]

For the record, I still think davesaz is town. I think the way he reacted to that reaction test thing Titus pulled was bad, but not scummy.

My lynchpool is Thor/3dice.

Wtf
We aren't lynching either of these people

[Thor665]

@Cakez - why do you oppose my lynch, isn't Titus' connection to me kind of a thing for you? I know I pointed out the lack of logic in you voting me over Titus, but theoretically I could still be scum in that situation, so...?

[Expedience]

@Cakez - why do you oppose my lynch, isn't Titus' connection to me kind of a thing for you? I know I pointed out the lack of logic in you voting me over Titus, but theoretically I could still be scum in that situation, so...?

You're trying to tell him that he's wrong in townreading you???

[Expedience]

@Cakez

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=64287
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=63671
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=64284

What's the point of this?

Oh those are all really old ugh.
I was looking into your typical responses to getting pressured since your response to Heartless scumreading you feels bad here. Those are too old to be useful tho.
P-Edit: yes Heartless I do exist

Such scumhunting, how transparent of you.

[SirCakez]

@Cakez - why do you oppose my lynch, isn't Titus' connection to me kind of a thing for you? I know I pointed out the lack of logic in you voting me over Titus, but theoretically I could still be scum in that situation, so...?

Titus's 180 on you and terrible push from the "reaction test" is blatant scum. I don't think it's bussing from how she's pushing it.

[Postie]

Titus's 180 on you and terrible push from the "reaction test" is blatant scum.

Why?

[SirCakez]

Not knowing Backup isn't in the setup isn't a scumtell/scumslip and I'm very sure Titus knows that.

[Postie]

My understanding was that Titus' main problem with Thor was that he didn't deny the doctor claim straight away.

[Titus]

I was actually arguing both. Thor is someone who has immaculate attention to detail. He wouldn't suggest a possibility of me being a backup when zero chance of that exists. It's busiwork.

The lack of a denial was the most important.

I didn't 180 on Postie. That's a misrep. Postie hasn't been in my scumreads for awile.

[SirCakez]

180 on Thor, not Postie?
Not denying the claim could actually be a scumtell unlike the backup thing but I don't find it as indicative as the deathtunnel Titus had on Thor for multiple pages indicated she found it.

[Titus]

Wow, you're agreeing with the bulk of my case (not refuting the doctor claim) while taking credit for it and saying that scumtells are not scumtells. If it's a scumtell, it's worth tunnelling over.

[TheShadow]

VOTE COUNT 2.8

Ranger (0) -
Titus (4) - davesaz, Ranger, SirCakez, Expedience
davesaz (1) - 3dicerolling
Anarchy Shard (0) -
Expedience (0) -
Postie (1) - Thor665
Thor665 (2) - Postie, Titus
SirCakez (0) -
3dicerolling (1) - The Show Must Go On
Aeronaut (0) -
The Show Must Go On (0) -

Not Voting: Aeronaut, Anarchy Shard

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is Wednesday, April 27th at 3:45pm PDT which is in (expired on 2016-04-27 15:45:00)

[RadiantCowbells]

literally too drunk to change accounts.
titus is town and we will never vote her and shame on anyone who is.
fuck off. that includes you ranger. remember when you were wrong about Lilith? you're wrong here.

3dice is a strong vote. others can be considered tomorrow.

[Ranger]

So yeah, I'm rolling with the 90+ chance that there is no second doctor. Sure it's possible. Is it likely? Nope.

(This, btw, is bait for a real doctor to try claiming so she can nightkill them.)

[Ranger]

Also, Spiffeh was town because Expedience's catch-up posting is town.

[Titus]

literally too drunk to change accounts.
titus is town and we will never vote her and shame on anyone who is.
fuck off. that includes you ranger. remember when you were wrong about Lilith? you're wrong here.

3dice is a strong vote. others can be considered tomorrow.

Nah, I don't want to lynch 3dice. Can we agree on someone?

[RadiantCowbells]

omg.

list your vote possibles?

[Ranger]

RC.

Titus is scum.

[Titus]

omg.

list your vote possibles?

Thor, Cakey, Daveaz.

[Expedience]

That was like 90% a joke vote fyi since the emote apparently didn't give it away.

And that makes it all okay

I'm not going to push you any more for reasons but consider yourself accused repeatedly.

I was the doctor.

Rc cakey conman. Lynch there until it fails. You owe me.

Ehh, also crumbs

UNVOTE: Titus

I think 3 dice rolling is town. Scumreading davesaz and SirCakez.

I'm acting scummy on purpose to see what people will do. What scum in their right mind would do that?

Morons.

ok nevermind he's probably town because he's talking from his heart rather than some conciliatory nonsense.

This game is difficult.

I think that Anarchy is town

Why the hell would we lynch 3dice when Witch_Hunter's slot is still alive?

VOTE: Rhaegar

Meh post

I need to reevaluate

I find it sketchy how everyone adjusted their readslist to have 3dice lower when I started hardpushing him

And yes, I got a town role PM.

I do agree with Spiffeh its weird how fast that general "3dice is scummy" consensus formed. Especially since Dave is still dodging any real pressure.

I think it's weird how fast the general "its weird how fast that general "3dice is scummy" consensus formed" consensus formed

Ranger u drew Scum again? You oughta know I am town here.

Uh-huh.

Says miss doctor claim.

You're scum.

It's not that hard to see.

I can't read Titus and I don't really get any read, I think it's hard to see.

I agree re: Postie

[echo]

I think it is the confidence in 1309 that sounds... bad to me for some reason.

For the record: Postie's kinda...dropping in my list right now. The posts like 1309 just...don't give the strong town vibe I'd expect from her.

Witch_Hunter/Rhaegar is the only scumread I'm really sure on. Hell no am I letting that slot live through today.

And then this is like acknowledging why it's bad and countering with "no I really am this confident!!", I think it sounds wrong because there are no strong reads in this game

-end of page 55, I will make another post this is too long-

[Ranger]

Ehh, also crumbs

UNVOTE: Titus

This is not a valid reason to unvote Titus.

Trust me.

She's scum.

I can't read Titus and I don't really get any read, I think it's hard to see.

You'd have to be blind not to see it.

[Expedience]

Sircakez, that's slanted as fuck. My interaction is with no one BC vla. I will give thoughts asap when I get back, but that type of post is scumsville. Painting vla as avoiding is eww.

My taxes and work are almost resolved.

I agree.

I have absolutely no opinion on Aeronaut, somehow.

And I don't think Witch Hunter should become "a scum slot" just because of groupthink and its inactivity.

I want to see Rhaegar slot flipped, then if it's a scum flip we powerlynch Titus.

This is the linking I am talking about. Right here. This is scum thinking.

Makes sense, I feel more involved in the game already and it only took 60 pages.

My scumreads are you, Thor and Dave. I'm pretty sure people other then those agree you've been dodging the Rhaegar slot all game.

The question is, does Cakez really believe what he's saying?

Yes because lynching a player who has ignored a slot that flips scum all game is SUCH bad thinking isn't it?

I think this might be a scumslip... Titus has NOT ignored a case that flipped scum, because no one has flipped scum yet.

So why are you so certain of the flip here?

It's just a really bad strawman don't worry.

Were you saying you wanted to wait for the replacement only because of courtesy?
I think most of us were pretty null on the slot and wanted to read based on the new content.
Though there is some danger that a good player could resurrect a scum slot with town enough looking posts.

Good and town posting, independent of groupthink

tbh I'm not reading Thor's posts though

3dice reads please everyone.

Town.

Screen capture.
Witch_hunter ISO
Search for "doc"
none found

read & weep

get destoryed titus

Meanwhile, you're here coaching Thor telling him that a doctor claim is a scumclaim.

I doubt the intentions were malicious, if that's what you were implying.

I think Thor's reaction was null.

I think I'm warming to the idea of a 3dice wagon.
Someone make a case so I can feel better about it pls.

What about the Thor665 tunnel and him doing something which I would expect anyone scumreading him to confbias into more evidence against him?

I think there is a good chance you are avoiding this topic because you know that Thor665 is town.

Okay, I read the game.

VOTE: Postie

I should look at the Thor slot more though, I'm still not sure about that.

[Expedience]

Ehh, also crumbs

UNVOTE: Titus

This is not a valid reason to unvote Titus.

Trust me.

She's scum.

I can't read Titus and I don't really get any read, I think it's hard to see.

You'd have to be blind not to see it.

Are you claiming cop or something, you seem awfully sure??

I think that Titus is town now. But I don't have very good eyesight.

[SirCakez]

Titus knows how to drop crumbs as scum, that's a terrible reason to townread her for.

[Thor665]

@Cakez - why do you oppose my lynch, isn't Titus' connection to me kind of a thing for you? I know I pointed out the lack of logic in you voting me over Titus, but theoretically I could still be scum in that situation, so...?

You're trying to tell him that he's wrong in townreading you???

No, what I'm doing is pointing out that he, up to this post, had clearly scumread me, and that my connection to Titus and the interaction thereof is the only reason he had flipped to Titus (after I pointed out how logically he should be voting Titus out of the pair of us).

Then he starts talking like I'm a townread out of nowhere.

Basically I'm asking him how that changed...by pointing out how his presented logic is wrong, but that's different than the question you're lobbing at me.