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Post Post #1125 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:16 am

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In post 1124, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1113, nnn_thekushmountains wrote:Regarding meeseeks, those consprcy theories are easier for mafia to fake than people realize. I'm gonna have to re-read it.

Reread it yet?

Also can u think of any scum motivation for him to put forth that theory and basically flipflop his read of you and Lapsa?

Cause to me, it looks like a natural thought progression of someone that is tunneled on me being scum.


Not yet.
Scum motivation is to make himself look townie and open up more people for him to scumread.
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Post Post #1126 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:23 am

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In post 1122, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 1110, Expedience wrote:VOTE: Cavalry

JarJar, vote Cavarly as well or you could be lynched because you are a competing wagon.

Don't like this post at all. Don't worry, I'm aware of where the votes are now and obviously If it comes down to me vs Cavalry (or any player), I'll vote out of self preservation since I'm 100% sure of my own allegiance.

But I don't like being told I better vote someone or risk getting lynched.

I'm happy with either you or Calvary
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Post Post #1127 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:24 am

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@Garmr I find it perfectly normal to defend someone without calling them town. That is what most of your case hinges on.
Calvary didnt want to lynch people and thought the case against them was bad but didnt want to lay down strong townreads either. I could see myself doing that, so I don't find it particularly scummy.
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Post Post #1128 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:25 am

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I think this Calvary wagon is bad. I think Garmr's jump on is bad. I think I am Innocent's vote on Calvary is bad too. I don't understand why lapsa is putting a wagon at L-1 if they are replacing out. I'm worried about Garmr, fire, and I am innocent right now.
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Post Post #1129 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:26 am

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Do you guys think I can find traction for any of Postie, Iaminnocent, or Meeseeks?

Lynching Iaminnocent seems like it might be possible. Autti/postie not so much anymore now that she's really active and a decent scumplayer.
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Post Post #1130 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:27 am

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I would rather vote I am innocent than calvary.
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Post Post #1131 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:27 am

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k murdercat, let's do a counterwagon?
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Post Post #1132 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:32 am

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ok
VOTE: I am innocent

Mostly for the Calvary vote but also other small things like which feels forced and which is a silly misrep.
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Post Post #1133 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:34 am

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Pretty sure Calvaryr is at L-1 by the way
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Post Post #1134 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:34 am

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In post 1128, MURDERCAT wrote:I think this Calvary wagon is bad. I think Garmr's jump on is bad. I think I am Innocent's vote on Calvary is bad too. I don't understand why lapsa is putting a wagon at L-1 if they are replacing out. I'm worried about Garmr, fire, and I am innocent right now.

Youthink I'm scum and fires scum so I know you are fail in this game maybe you will have better game next time.
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Post Post #1135 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:37 am

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We will see.
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Post Post #1136 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:54 am

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In post 1134, Garmr wrote:
In post 1128, MURDERCAT wrote:I think this Calvary wagon is bad. I think Garmr's jump on is bad. I think I am Innocent's vote on Calvary is bad too. I don't understand why lapsa is putting a wagon at L-1 if they are replacing out. I'm worried about Garmr, fire, and I am innocent right now.

Youthink I'm scum and fires scum so I know you are fail in this game maybe you will have better game next time.
Are u townreading murdercat?
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Post Post #1137 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:02 am

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Considering I had 20 pages to read through, I am going to avoid a wall and instead just do a sort of stream of consciousness as I read through.
Still feel good about Cavalry.

from Garmr is bad. I would give MURDERCAT townpoints for but it’s honestly probably something I would say as either alignment.

Some of the Garmr/Fire back and forth feels bad. Doesn’t feel like two townies. Specifically really pings. Honestly a bit unsure if it feels like Garmr-scum or Garmr-town being led by Fire-scum.

Lapsa still scum (), which makes me think Garmr is in fact town, since the back and forth between them is hard to accept as SvS.

Jake is giving me bad vibes in most of his posts since my catch-up. is especially bad, but other people seemed to have jumped on that already.

MURDERCAT feeling like town, and I agree with re: Autti, although at this point there wasn’t enough to sway me.

Nevermind on Jake. Exp is town.

I want to say I like Autti’s replacement, but the readslist in is so backwards from my reads. Not enough time for this today, but town should engage this slot tomorrow.

Lapsa still scum. Not sure how the wagon dissipated, but there’s still time for people to get back on it. Cavalry wagon is horrible. Everyone get off. MURDERCAT is town. No one that has voted him had a good reason at all.
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Post Post #1138 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:04 am

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VOTE: Lapsa

yeah vote shouldn't have changed. calvary wagon is dirty af.
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Post Post #1139 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:17 am

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In post 1137, acryon wrote:Considering I had 20 pages to read through, I am going to avoid a wall and instead just do a sort of stream of consciousness as I read through.
Still feel good about Cavalry.

from Garmr is bad. I would give MURDERCAT townpoints for but it’s honestly probably something I would say as either alignment.

Some of the Garmr/Fire back and forth feels bad. Doesn’t feel like two townies. Specifically really pings. Honestly a bit unsure if it feels like Garmr-scum or Garmr-town being led by Fire-scum.

Lapsa still scum (), which makes me think Garmr is in fact town, since the back and forth between them is hard to accept as SvS.

Jake is giving me bad vibes in most of his posts since my catch-up. is especially bad, but other people seemed to have jumped on that already.

MURDERCAT feeling like town, and I agree with re: Autti, although at this point there wasn’t enough to sway me.

Nevermind on Jake. Exp is town.

I want to say I like Autti’s replacement, but the readslist in is so backwards from my reads. Not enough time for this today, but town should engage this slot tomorrow.

Lapsa still scum. Not sure how the wagon dissipated, but there’s still time for people to get back on it. Cavalry wagon is horrible. Everyone get off. MURDERCAT is town. No one that has voted him had a good reason at all.

Uggh, can't we just lynch Garmr today instead of waiting till after Lapsa flips town?
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Post Post #1140 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:18 am

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Post Post #1141 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:20 am

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In post 1139, JarJarDrinks wrote:
Uggh, can't we just lynch Garmr today instead of waiting till after Lapsa flips town?

Because even in the incredibly unlikely scenario that Lapsa is town, I think Fire is more likely scum than Garmr.
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Post Post #1142 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:20 am

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Still don't get why the Lapsa hate is so strong
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Post Post #1143 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:24 am

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Garmr is town regardless of Lapsa's flip.
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Post Post #1144 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:24 am

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prodding calvary
YOU ARE AWFUL - DGB
Heat why do you replace into a game and then do jack shit - spiffeh
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Post Post #1145 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:36 am

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In post 1143, RadiantCowbells wrote:Garmr is town regardless of Lapsa's flip.

You seem to have changed ur read of me somewhat RC.

In post 875, Heat wrote:
JarJarDrinks (4):
RadiantCowbells, Mr Meeseeks, Fire Assassin, Garmr

Is scum on my wagon?
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Post Post #1146 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:37 am

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In post 565, Lapsa wrote:cat -
been on most wagons. nothing really pings scum

calvary -
lots of plain analysis instead of "TEH SCUMHUNTINGZ"

acryon -
i've seen several players with similar "Death note themed mindset".
seems inexperienced yet enthusiastic.
prime target for scum manipulations which might have already taken place

jarjar -
should not be underestimated.
way less pretentious than in his scum game.
has been all over the place instead of just tunneling lapsa.
language seems natural (that's an important tell), sound reasoning.
his defence on me is in a sweetspot i would expect from an acquainted town-aligned player.

our reads diverge on [innocent, assassin, garm, meesex] though.
slight townlean

autti -
garm's making good effort at mucking this game.
[autti, garm] scumteam seems viable.
praising meesex for #379 feels bad.
judgment of events unrelated to me feels totally town though.

slight townlean

rc -
vote pattern seems mostly natural with exception of #204 - jake vote feels like probing for easy lynch.
lapsa tunnel indeed is eeringly similar with what jarjar did in his scum game.
can stomach rc's issues with jjd but having issues with cat seems too much.
slight townlean / null read

garm -
his tunnel on me feels familiar - we've been there already.
but he's much more disruptive.
lots of fluff, bullshit reasoning, stagnant reads.
null read / slight scumlean

meesex -
initiated wagon on acryon.
oddworld reasoning everywhere - doesn't resonate with me at all.

could be scum but also could be a noob who's being used for scum manipulations.
wouldn't mind him getting lynched i guess although must refine my read before doing so

assassin -
low on content.
somehow i just don't like that guy and don't know why.
slight scumlean

jake -
i kind a liked his explanation of what's blatantly obvious.
his vote on me seems understandable.
i think there's slight chance he's associated with meesex because of #64 - seems staged.
+ meesex`s #13.
interesting smalltalk with innocent.
seems to be too experienced for such apathy V/LA or not
scumlean

kush -
need to refine my read.
timing of some things seems off - e.g. townread on me.
scumlean

innocent -
sheeps RC and jumps on kush.
i have no idea wtf is that huge slip inno is talking about on #238.
low on content.
scumread


this is a really townie reads list. bolded is especially townie.
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Post Post #1147 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:41 am

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In post 1145, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 875, Heat wrote:
JarJarDrinks (4):
RadiantCowbells, Mr Meeseeks, Fire Assassin, Garmr

Is scum on my wagon?

Probably yes (Fire Assassin), although the jury is still out on you.
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Post Post #1148 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:42 am

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Kush, how do you feel about fire? I'd rather vote fire than I am innocent. Garmr > fire > IAI
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Post Post #1149 (ISO) » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:44 am

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In post 1148, MURDERCAT wrote:Kush, how do you feel about fire? I'd rather vote fire than I am innocent. Garmr > fire > IAI

FWIW, I am theoretically up for a Fire wagon if the Lapsa wagon can't make it, although Lapsa should 100% be the lynch today.
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