Open 635 - JK9++ (Game Over)

[TheShadow]

VOTE COUNT 2.10

Ranger (0) -
Titus (4) - davesaz, Ranger, SirCakez, Thor665
davesaz (1) - 3dicerolling
Anarchy Shard (0) -
Expedience (0) -
Postie (1) - Expedience
Thor665 (2) - Postie, Titus
SirCakez (0) -
3dicerolling (1) - The Show Must Go On
Aeronaut (0) -
The Show Must Go On (0) -

Not Voting: Aeronaut, Anarchy Shard

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is Wednesday, April 27th at 3:45pm PDT which is in (expired on 2016-04-27 15:45:00)

[Thor665]

You are now deciding that me going "...sure?" is a verification of an unclaim.

If you're saying it wasn't, then... what was it?

If you're saying it's a confirmation - you run with that.

Okay but was it or was it not a "verification of an unclaim" and if not, what were you saying?

What part of "I don't care" confuses you.
I've answered this question - all I would do now is repeat my answers to you.
I have no further interest in doing so - proceed with your case as you see fit, if you need Mafia education join a Newbie with me as an IC when I'm encouraged to deal with this sort of stuff. You're either town who doesn't get it, and won't get it till after the game is over, or you're scum who doesn't get it it (or is faking not getting it) none of those possibilities suggest me explaining it in smaller words will help - so, no.

Titus knows how to drop crumbs as scum, that's a terrible reason to townread her for.

Maybe that's why that's not why I'm townreading her.

Someone said they were townreading Titus's crumbs, I don't remember if it was you or someone else

It was me.

Are you claiming cop or something, you seem awfully sure?

This is not something I should answer.

Oh man, now Titus and Postie will scum read you!
Brilliant scumhunting, Expedience!

I'm not lynching Thor, vote Titus

^

Ranger, stop being a dumb Smurf.

You've already told scum you're one of two roles based on your challenge to me and they know I'm town.

Oh...no...wait, apparently this is utterly different than confirming something about your role when asked.

In other words, I'd oppose Ranger, Cakez, and SMGO wagons. I'm fine with all others at this stage. I actively endorse a Titus wagon. I could probably do an Expedience or 3dice wagon out of boredom, and those are my next two biggest drives, so... meh.

[Thor665]

And for the record everyone - Titus has been asked multiple times to claim target.
She hasn't.
In a game with possible tracking roles.
Just saying.

[Titus]

And now you're moving the goal posts.

I claimed my target yesterday. I am not claiming future targets.

Thor, give it up. You aren't going to mislynch me. The entire wagon on me is my entire scum pool and Ranger. When you can only get one townie to mislynch, it won't happen. Town just shows up and votes you. That's all that has to happen. Town has to play the game.

[Thor665]

I claimed my target yesterday. I am not claiming future targets.

Can you quote it?

And I haven't moved any goalposts - you're either lying, or full on derp tunneling, at no point did I ask you to claim a future target.
Feel free to quote me to catch me in that lie.
But you won't, because you can't - keep spewing.

[Titus]

I claimed my target yesterday. I am not claiming future targets.

Can you quote it?

And I haven't moved any goalposts - you're either lying, or full on derp tunneling, at no point did I ask you to claim a future target.
Feel free to quote me to catch me in that lie.
But you won't, because you can't - keep spewing.

None of the above.

I asked you to confirm or deny something town already knows to be false (minus Ranger). There was no issue with you claiming future or past actions.

I will let you find it. I will prove it if town thinks it's necessary. You aren't likely town Thor. I think I have played with you enough to see the difference and you'd see Cakey/daveasz as scum if you were town.

[SirCakez]

Titus you are a smart player. Do you think the entire scum team would wagon you together?

[Thor665]

Okay, so you haven't then - point holds.
And goalpost moving was dropped like a wet blanket - so me calling you a liar or tunneled holds.

Copy.

[Titus]

Titus you are a smart player. Do you think the entire scum team would wagon you together?

You have no choice.

[Titus]

Okay, so you haven't then - point holds.
And goalpost moving was dropped like a wet blanket - so me calling you a liar or tunneled holds.

Copy.

You're tunnelled, it just ain't Derp.

You are trying to shift the goal posts and call me a liar. My posts were at zero risk. You're trying to move them to get into my head to figure out who is safe to murder.

Unless someone claims I didn't visit my target, town don't need my protects documented. Scum do.

[Thor665]

What were my original goalposts then? Can you describe them?

And, ah, now we're back to the 'yeah, I didn't claim'.

Who is moving what now?

Scum.

[The Show Must Go On]

Ranger, can you please vote someone who isn't Titus?
I don't think Thor's scum either ftr.

Can we all vote like Davesaz or 3dice or something?
I'd vote Postie over Titus as well.

[Thor665]

Your theory being that Titus is just mad tunneling and has given up on reality?
I think Postie looks more likely the derp town of the pair - why do you disagree?

What's your beef with Dave?

[Titus]

What were my original goalposts then? Can you describe them?

And, ah, now we're back to the 'yeah, I didn't claim'.

Who is moving what now?

Scum.

You didn't refute being doctor. Most people would call me out.

@RC, If you vote Dave, I will. I am not voting Postie.

[The Show Must Go On]

VOTE: Davesaz

I don't like how he's lording his bizarre shit as a reason we should kiss his towny boots, the whole thing feels sake, he's a shared scumread of most of my townpool, and PoEing the people I'm not townreading I'm pretty sure we'll win this eventually, especially since I will nearly positively not die at night.

[Titus]

VOTE: Daveaz

[Thor665]

What were my original goalposts then? Can you describe them?

And, ah, now we're back to the 'yeah, I didn't claim'.

Who is moving what now?

Scum.

You didn't refute being doctor.

Most

people would call me out.

@RC, If you vote Dave, I will. I am not voting Postie.

I see a *small* flaw in your logic for calling me scum over that.
What could it be, what could it be...?

Basically what you're saying is "I think town would do this" with no actual supporting reasoning to even show that most town would do it, and assuredly no reasoning to show that I'm that town.

Then you keep lying about stuff to my face while claiming that your case makes sense.

[Thor665]

I don't like how he's lording his bizarre Smurf as a reason we should kiss his towny boots, the whole thing feels sake, he's a shared scumread of most of my townpool, and PoEing the people I'm not townreading I'm pretty sure we'll win this eventually, especially since I will nearly positively not die at night.

So, bad reads is your case on him?
I...can think of a number of players with iffy logic in this thread, what makes Dave the worst offender?

[RadiantCowbells]

That I'm not townreading him and his whole 'IM DOING STUPID THINGS SO I MUST BE TOWN' thing feels scummy as all eff.

[RadiantCowbells]

I absolutely would not describe my scumread on him as 'Bad reads so scum' since that's the least of my concerns with his slot.

[Titus]

What were my original goalposts then? Can you describe them?

And, ah, now we're back to the 'yeah, I didn't claim'.

Who is moving what now?

Scum.

You didn't refute being doctor.

Most

people would call me out.

@RC, If you vote Dave, I will. I am not voting Postie.

I see a *small* flaw in your logic for calling me scum over that.
What could it be, what could it be...?

Basically what you're saying is "I think town would do this" with no actual supporting reasoning to even show that most town would do it, and assuredly no reasoning to show that I'm that town.

Then you keep lying about stuff to my face while claiming that your case makes sense.

My case history is that everyone smart calls out someone for doing what I did and calls them a liar. Every time.

I do not think you're dumb, so you were hedging.

You're always welcome to show where smart town hedged and prove me wrong.

Burden is on the persuader dude.

[Thor665]

I absolutely would not describe my scumread on him as 'Bad reads so scum' since that's the least of my concerns with his slot.

Hey, that's what you described when I asked you for the case - don't shoot the repeater of the message. Clarify it if you need to, but "scum reads my town reads" and "lording bizarre reasoning" is bad reads = scum last I checked.

I am not a fan of his scummy play = strategy thing either, but I flat out have seen *multiple* town players over the years do and claim this exact thing. It's not selling me as much as it's clearly selling you.

[RadiantCowbells]

No.

I said 'He is scumread by my townreads.'

Very different.

[Thor665]

My case history is that everyone smart calls out someone for doing what I did and calls them a liar. Every time.

I do not think you're dumb, so you were hedging.

You're always welcome to show where smart town hedged and prove me wrong.

Burden is on the persuader dude.

Burden is on the accused not the accuser?
Lulz.

But, okay;

Give me a suggestion for a good way to search for that in game threads and I'll happily provide examples.

[Thor665]

No.

I said 'He is scumread by my townreads.'

Very different.

Oh, okay, with the misspelling of fake right before it, I interpreted it as "he's shared scumreads of my townreads".
So your townreads are 3dice and Titus?
Or someone(s) else?