Open 635 - JK9++ (Game Over)

[Titus]

My case history is that everyone smart calls out someone for doing what I did and calls them a liar. Every time.

I do not think you're dumb, so you were hedging.

You're always welcome to show where smart town hedged and prove me wrong.

Burden is on the persuader dude.

Burden is on the accused not the accuser?
Lulz.

But, okay;

Give me a suggestion for a good way to search for that in game threads and I'll happily provide examples.

Find someone who accused someone else of claiming a role that was impossible. Where town didn't refute the claim.

Plus, this isn't a theoretical courtroom but a mafia claim. People couldn't RVS in court.

Most jurors assume the guy is guilty from the start and cops never lie anyway.

[davesaz]

My case history is that everyone smart calls out someone for doing what I did and calls them a liar. Every time.

Evidently you haven't encountered the type who use sarcasm to call you a liar.

Also, this is one of the reasons I'm town.

[davesaz]

That I'm not townreading him and his whole 'IM DOING STUPID THINGS SO I MUST BE TOWN' thing feels scummy as all eff.

I never lie about why I do things. People scumread me for being active so I wanted to try being not active and see if they would ignore me.

[TheShadow]

VOTE COUNT 2.11

Ranger (0) -
Titus (4) - davesaz, Ranger, SirCakez, Thor665
davesaz (3) - 3dicerolling, The Show Must Go On, Titus
Anarchy Shard (0) -
Expedience (0) -
Postie (1) - Expedience
Thor665 (1) - Postie
SirCakez (0) -
3dicerolling (1) -
Aeronaut (0) -
The Show Must Go On (0) -

Not Voting: Aeronaut, Anarchy Shard

ACTIVITY: Prodding Aeronaut, Anarchy Shard

With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is Wednesday, April 27th at 3:45pm PDT which is in (expired on 2016-04-27 15:45:00)

[Thor665]

This is not an easy thing to search Titus - no wonder you're (scummily) wanting me to do it and not do the reseacrh yourself.

Here I am, as town, being asked to claim something and basically telling the other player why it would be dumb regardless of my alignment to claim said thing.
I am town.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p6416608
I don't call them scummy for asking, but I do suggest it's dumb.

Here I am as town back in 2014 wondering why no one tried the "replace in claim" check on me, and noted that I didn't think it would work on me as a reaction test. Proving that I'm aware of it as a strategy, and also that I understand how it works, and understand how to, y'know, check myself before I wreck myself.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p6148943

Here I am replacing into a game, as town, you were in this game.
I reveal that I'm already aware of how much my role has claimed upon replacing in - suggesting I checked out some stuff in that regard. I guess you figure I don't do that no more?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p6929726

That's all I got.
But I think it backs up what I've said more than what you've said.

[Ranger]

Ranger, can you please vote someone who isn't Titus?

Theoretically? Yes. I think Postie's scum so it wouldn't be the end of the world if she was lynched instead. It wouldn't be something I'd be happy about, though. Because...
Practically? No. Titus is scum, and everyone voting there has continued to point out reason after reason for it. Thor being the most recent with his posting on this page.

[Postie]

I really want Thor today but I'm willing to compromise on dave if it'll stop the terrible Titus wagon from going through

VOTE: davesaz

[SirCakez]

Oh Postie might be scum now. Was null on her earlier but that's shaking.

[Anarchy Shard]

Okay, I cannot express how sorry I am for being gone so long, I got a bit bogged down with homework and everything, and Mafia just kinda slipped my mind.

I'm back now though, and judging by my inbox only hours away from a replacement.

I don't know where Scourge could be though...

At any rate, I know I'm going to have neither the time nor attention span to catch up, so if someone would be kind enough to update me on recent events, that'd be great.

- Sonic/Radical Rat

[Postie]

A wagon is forming on Titus despite the fact she's a claimed doctor who will get caught out in massclaim if she isn't. The rest of us who aren't scum or insane are trying to agree on a counterwagon.

[Titus]

Postie, calling Ranger insane is insulting.

@Thor, you quoting that and arguing might save you a lot of hassle if you want to argue you're a special snowflake. I will be verifying it later but you're down from confscum to prob scum.

[Postie]

I didn't mean it that strongly.
Sorry Ranger.

[Thor665]

Postie, calling Ranger insane is insulting.

@Thor, you quoting that and arguing might save you a lot of hassle if you want to argue you're a special snowflake. I will be verifying it later but you're down from confscum to prob scum.

I cannot actually make this face hard enough to properly convey my reaction right now.

[Titus]

@Postie, Good because you're going to have to work with them, barring unforseen circumstances.

@Thor, Being an Aspie, I wouldn't get it anyway.

[Thor665]

You think I would at least get a "yeah, sorry, might have been stretching the truth a lot, Sorry Thor".
No such luck I suppose.

Sorry, Titus, for spanking your weak case in the face off the brilliantly difficult task of proving I'm not a newb town on his first revelation of the ruddy "lol, you already claimed" gambit that is so shockingly new and neat that very few have ever heard of it.

Dayvig: Titus

If you don't freak out, you must be scum!

[Thor665]

@Thor, Being an Aspie, I wouldn't get it anyway.

Then be aware of where it hurts you and don't random hard tunnel on derp and lies?

[Titus]

I wasn't looking for a "freakout". Just a comment like follows:

Your dayvig is impossible. Nice try.

[Titus]

@Thor, Being an Aspie, I wouldn't get it anyway.

Then be aware of where it hurts you and don't random hard tunnel on derp and lies?

You don't get it. Aspies don't lie much and have a strong sense of right and wrong compared to most.

As for saying don't Derp, gee that's why we call it scumhunting instead of scum knowing.

[Thor665]

I wasn't looking for a "freakout". Just a comment like follows:

Your dayvig is impossible. Nice try.

The grass is green.

[Titus]

I wasn't looking for a "freakout". Just a comment like follows:

Your dayvig is impossible. Nice try.

The grass is green.

Why did you say that and spam?

[davesaz]

@Thor, Being an Aspie, I wouldn't get it anyway.

Then be aware of where it hurts you and don't random hard tunnel on derp and lies?

You don't get it. Aspies don't lie much and have a strong sense of right and wrong compared to most.

Strange comment given your behavior toward me today.

[SirCakez]

How is Titus caught in a massclaim if she's scum?

[Thor665]

I wasn't looking for a "freakout". Just a comment like follows:

Your dayvig is impossible. Nice try.

The grass is green.

Why did you say that and spam?

I'm sorry, I thought we were claiming that only by stating a semi-proven, yet also fairly obvious thing when asked something silly (and assuredly *not* by saying "I don't see how this is relevant") would we show that we are town.
Is this not true?

A knife cuts.

[Titus]

Except, you'd say it if it was that easy. It feels like you want a choice based on whether to CC or not based on how the wind blows. Given how my other scum reads weretreating you and each other, stopping you from CCing when convenient for scum is a good idea. Force y'all to bus.

[Titus]

How is Titus caught in a massclaim if she's scum?

Jk+++ and the variants are what is known as "letters" setups. There are only a finite number of possible combinations of PRs.

When we inevitably PR or VT massclaim, we can determine possible setups.

Then we claim letters (I need one letter or two to exist).

Then claim exact roles.

It makes it harder to fake claim.

All stages should be done with popcorn method, with the last of any given round being the first of the next.