The Third Fortnight (Game Over [Bonus Round])

[Quilford]

i feel a little bit better about ces too now, yay

[Quilford]

>:O PAGETOP

[Gorkington]

i did it.
i created a wagon that i like.

[Quilford]

grats

[KuroiXHF]

also i just realised zmuff and i joined ms.net on the same day o.o

Ladies and gentlemen, our two scum.

[Katsuki]

to me, scumhunting has always meant 'analysing subtleties in a person's play to determine whether they are informed or uninformed, and thus their alignment'

i fail to see how this game spurns scumhunting. the uninformed / informed core mechanic of mafia is still here no?

informed about what? the fact that 1 out of 15 other players is scum?

yes?

i mean, did you not read the bold text in the signup thread where zoraster said 'this is a very difficult game to win'?

I agree with muffinman 100%. This is an exceedingly easy game for scum to win.

[Katsuki]

i respect cupcakes opinions on baked goods

Glad to know you've realized the error of your ways and discovered your love for cupcakes!

[Katsuki]

also i just realised zmuff and i joined ms.net on the same day o.o

Nope you two are a day apart!

[Quilford]

to me, scumhunting has always meant 'analysing subtleties in a person's play to determine whether they are informed or uninformed, and thus their alignment'

i fail to see how this game spurns scumhunting. the uninformed / informed core mechanic of mafia is still here no?

informed about what? the fact that 1 out of 15 other players is scum?

yes?

i mean, did you not read the bold text in the signup thread where zoraster said 'this is a very difficult game to win'?

I agree with muffinman 100%. This is an exceedingly easy game for scum to win.

Maybe it's just that I've been in both previous runs of the game, but I don't agree.

[Quilford]

also i just realised zmuff and i joined ms.net on the same day o.o

Nope you two are a day apart!

Not according to my timezone!!

[Katsuki]

so why aren't you trying to do that, have you decided it's a lost cause? i know you're saying you dont claim to be playing optimally but i'm just wondering why

anyway you seem to have a town read on katsuki, can you explain why that is?

i have been doing that, just not in the last couple pages...

i also don't have some super amazing explanation for why i think cupcake is probably town - i just do and he's not playing like how i figure he would play as scum. there are "subtleties" in the things he writes, as you might put it, outside of the fact that i think he's more likely to approach the game how i would as scum if he rolled scum. i mean, i could probably go over all his posts and write what i like about each of the posts that i like but that is also more effort than i think is necessary so i'm probably not going to do that, even if you were to ask

Funny how we seem to have the same approach to the game.

Though it would be nice if you wouldn't overanalyze me in the event I were to ever play another Fortnight and roll scum (or if this gets rerolled again lol)

[Katsuki]

to me, scumhunting has always meant 'analysing subtleties in a person's play to determine whether they are informed or uninformed, and thus their alignment'

i fail to see how this game spurns scumhunting. the uninformed / informed core mechanic of mafia is still here no?

informed about what? the fact that 1 out of 15 other players is scum?

yes?

i mean, did you not read the bold text in the signup thread where zoraster said 'this is a very difficult game to win'?

I agree with muffinman 100%. This is an exceedingly easy game for scum to win.

Maybe it's just that I've been in both previous runs of the game, but I don't agree.

I dunno then. I'm not particularly interested in typing up an essay on why this game is so easy to win as scum but muffin's posted parts of why anyways so.

I didn't put much thought into it pre-game, but the gamestate is entirely justifying my thoughts.

[Katsuki]

alalalala why can no one seem to get along?

The statement that people nowadays can't seem to get along with anyone with viewpoints that oppose their own appears to be solidly demonstrated in this game...

[Quilford]

Muffins argument boiled down to the game is easy for scum if town is shit and passes up as scumspects people who have charisma and are putting in effort which seems trivially correct

And n = 1. Be the change you want to see in the world.

[Katsuki]

That wasn't really the point of his argument tbh but meh.

I wonder how the setup would play out if we each had two guesses. But that would defeat the purpose of glory I suppose.

16 players is way too much tho.

[Katsuki]

Muffinman I have a great idea for lynching, but I'll give it a few more days before we go there.

[Gorkington]

i think if scum had independent wincons going into night and just didnt have a flee that would be a better setup.

[Gorkington]

sorry i realize this is already drifting very dangerously towards entirely useless setup talk.
i just really like the idea of this setup in theory and would be very interested in moderate tweaks to it.

[zMuffinMan]

Muffinman I have a great idea for lynching, but I'll give it a few more days before we go there.

ok

if we're both still alive on d3 i'll sheep you then

[Marquis]

VOTE: hiplop

quilford jettisoned into my townreads btw

[zMuffinMan]

alalalala why can no one seem to get along?

The statement that people nowadays can't seem to get along with anyone with viewpoints that oppose their own appears to be solidly demonstrated in this game...

it's nothing to do with opposing viewpoints... if that were the case, you'd be ostracised by basically anyone whose opinion actually matters for your thoughts on cupcakes v muffins

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Unvote, vote: hiplop

With me, Katsuki!

[Quilford]

I think that sees hiplop at L-3, by the way.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hip votes. Neat. Why tho? Also I'm just not caught up

[zoraster]

Day 1

Cogito Ergo Sum ( 1 )

hiplop

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(L - 8 )

Davsto ( 2 )

xRECKONERx

Bins

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(L - 7 )

hiplop ( 6 )

SnarkySnowman

Gorkington

Antihero

Quilford

Marquis

Cogito Ergo Sum

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(L - 3 )

KuroiXHF ( 1 )

T-Bone

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(L - 8 )

T-Bone ( 2 )

The Bulge

zMuffinMan

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(L - 7 )

The Bulge ( 3 )

JohnnyFarrar

Katsuki

Davsto

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(L - 6 )

Not Voting ( 1 )

KuroiXHF

Total Votes ( 16 )

Needed to Lynch [ 9 ]

Deadline: May 8th at Noon EDT

Sorry for the delay, guys. I'm out of town and the wifi for my laptop has been really sketchy.