Mini 1785: Game Over!

[acryon]

They know that a postie lynch today means the next 2 lynches are Ircher>RC.

Lynching Meeeks (who I'm sure is town) adds an extra day to that timeline.

I agree with this.

[MURDERCAT]

Ok, I'm caught up. Ircher looking to vote someone that isn't postie is ridiculous. Also the fact that calvary didn't claim is strange. I don't understand why RC would move off of the two players that are 50% likely to be scum. Ircher/RC scumteam seems reasonable to me. I could see them looking to bus ircher to get gs postie lynched and RC towncred. That slot is under a lot of pressure anyway so I think that's pretty good value for them. Why does postie have so many votes again? I don't agree with Meseeks point of view, I think we should vote the scummier one.

What do we think the scum PRs are right now? Do we really buy that scum postie was able to claim gunsmith based on the info avaliable to scum? I don't understand the possible setups that well, but mafia doc doesn't make that much sense with vig in the game correct? So were are basing the fact that scum postie claimed gunsmith because of fear of an SK on day 1? Someone help me out here.

[Mr Meeseeks]

Also the fact that calvary didn't claim is strange.

im just gonna point out that not ccing in that situation is the right move

im fairly sure that i was always taught that if theres like a d1 l-1 investigative claim, you dont cc and instead just try to push the lynch without standing out too much, so that hopefully you can get the scum lynched without having to cc, and then cc the following day if necessary

[Mr Meeseeks]

Do we really buy that scum postie was able to claim gunsmith based on the info avaliable to scum?

if mafia have a doc (hardly improbable), then they can fairly safely assume with high accuracy that there is a gunsmith

and if postie is scum, and dwlee town, then the town power is joat+gunsmith+vig, and i reckon a maf doc is balanced against that

[Mr Meeseeks]

to an extent, there is a fair case for either being scum (although i think its more likely to be postie considering that there are multiple contradictions surrounding her)

i just think that, if were to decide on one, that postie is better for the sake of damage control (is that the right term?)

because mislynching postie!town has better consequences (more info, potentially leading to multiple scum lynches) than mislynching ircher!town, and so postie is more worth the risk of being wrong on her

you get me?

[JarJarDrinks]

you get me?

No.

I got that BEFORE.

Ircher looking to lynch a non-postie player tilts everything.

He's obviously trying to delay his own lynch. There's no way he tries to push ur lynch when he knows postie is 100% confirmed scum.

[JarJarDrinks]

And even if you buy the fact that he was so convinced by RC that u'r scum, look @ this shit:

@RC
Is Murder an acceptable lynch?

Like seriously people?

[RadiantCowbells]

Ok, I'm caught up. Ircher looking to vote someone that isn't postie is ridiculous. Also the fact that calvary didn't claim is strange. I don't understand why RC would move off of the two players that are 50% likely to be scum. Ircher/RC scumteam seems reasonable to me. I could see them looking to bus ircher to get gs postie lynched and RC towncred. That slot is under a lot of pressure anyway so I think that's pretty good value for them. Why does postie have so many votes again? I don't agree with Meseeks point of view, I think we should vote the scummier one.

What do we think the scum PRs are right now? Do we really buy that scum postie was able to claim gunsmith based on the info avaliable to scum? I don't understand the possible setups that well, but mafia doc doesn't make that much sense with vig in the game correct? So were are basing the fact that scum postie claimed gunsmith because of fear of an SK on day 1? Someone help me out here.

There may only be 2 scum + SK.

Or just 2 scum outright.

[RadiantCowbells]

Again, you're badly overestimating the power of GS because guilties aren't confirmed guilties.

[Postie]

I mean I know I'm biased but Ircher seems pretty obvscum right now.

[JarJarDrinks]

I mean I know I'm biased but Ircher seems pretty obvscum right now.

I think it's crazy that anyone even needs to be convinced @ this point.

[Mr Meeseeks]

i knoowwwww but i really dont want to take the risk that ircher was just being a dumdum and then lynch town investigative with only one scum to show for it

whereas there are still various things which make me shake and quiver about postie so shes still a possibility

ech

[Mr Meeseeks]

fuckit

VOTE: ircher

theres all the weird stuff between roles which i think im too busy concentrating on i think

[Mr Meeseeks]

thats l-2 if anyone wasnt keeping track

[Dwlee99]

Stupidity isn't a scum tell :I

[Mr Meeseeks]

but like

he pushed a wagon on someone other than someone he knew was confscum

with a supposed pretense of getting results which was unlikely for him and of course he should know postie is not getting results because, you know, "scum"

and id understand it as an appeal to us to get a beneficial lynch to him if he were town and being wagoned while failing to get any momentum on postie and being more scumread than her

but postie was... what? l-1? l-2? so that goes out of the window

it just seems like wanting to stall posties lynch for a day

which is a weird as fuck thing to do

[JarJarDrinks]

What meeks said. I don't think it's stupidity. I think it was calculated scum play. Not a very good one, but it had a direct purpose (delaying the lynch).

@Dwlee, do you have any reason to believe Ircher over Postie?

[Ircher]

Fyi: RC was the one to derail it. I thought the reasoning made sense, but none of you guys agree.

[Dwlee99]

What meeks said. I don't think it's stupidity. I think it was calculated scum play. Not a very good one, but it had a direct purpose (delaying the lynch).

@Dwlee, do you have any reason to believe Ircher over Postie?

Well I have a jailkeep but didnt use it on postie. If postie is town scum have a roleblocker, but because my protective power is in something that also roleblocks I don't think that scum have a roleblocker. Does that make sense?

[JarJarDrinks]

Fyi: RC was the one to derail it.

Yeah that'd be why RC is getting lynched after you.

I thought the reasoning made sense, but none of you guys agree.

Who gives a shit if the reasoning made sense? Is it a better reason than KNOWING FOR A FACT THAT POSTIE IS SCUM?

[JarJarDrinks]

What meeks said. I don't think it's stupidity. I think it was calculated scum play. Not a very good one, but it had a direct purpose (delaying the lynch).

@Dwlee, do you have any reason to believe Ircher over Postie?

Well I have a jailkeep but didnt use it on postie. If postie is town scum have a roleblocker, but because my protective power is in something that also roleblocks I don't think that scum have a roleblocker. Does that make sense?

Well if town has a vig/GS/JOAT then I think scum having a roleblocker makes sense.

[Mr Meeseeks]

What meeks said. I don't think it's stupidity. I think it was calculated scum play. Not a very good one, but it had a direct purpose (delaying the lynch).

@Dwlee, do you have any reason to believe Ircher over Postie?

Well I have a jailkeep but didnt use it on postie. If postie is town scum have a roleblocker, but because my protective power is in something that also roleblocks I don't think that scum have a roleblocker. Does that make sense?

while id agree if you were full jailkeeper

you are a joat with a 1-shot jailkeep as one of your options

i honestly dont think its outside the realms of possibility for a scum roleblocker to exist with your role

on the bright side for you it means you aint 100% scum if postie is town

[Ircher]

Fyi: RC was the one to derail it.

Yeah that'd be why RC is getting lynched after you.

I thought the reasoning made sense, but none of you guys agree.

Who gives a shit if the reasoning made sense? Is it a better reason than KNOWING FOR A FACT THAT POSTIE IS SCUM?

It seemed so and still does. Postie & I are only liabilities during LyLo or MyLo.

[MURDERCAT]

If scum have a roleblocker instead of Doctor then I really don't see scum Postie claiming gunsmith.

[MURDERCAT]

Ircher I honestly can't see how you are town here and not trying to lynch Postie.