Mini 1784: Mafia Z – Game Over

[RadiantCowbells]

If you wanted to work to a town win you work with town, you don't do stupid yolo shit.
You've basically claimed 3P. Town wincon is such that 3P being able to win with town seems pretty fucking unlikely.
I haven't liked your play, I don't like your black box garbage. I'm lynching you.

Town can play 3 way without having to deal with your shit.

[ɀefiend]

If KTS got jailkept we lynch KTS and win

If thats what the stolen from thing is

This guy gets it. Too bad Fate and RC's slots weren't swapped so I wouldn't be here dealing with this shit.

[RadiantCowbells]

I will not unvote you without a hard and full claim.

[ɀefiend]

If you wanted to work to a town win you work with town, you don't do stupid yolo shit.
You've basically claimed 3P. Town wincon is such that 3P being able to win with town seems pretty fucking unlikely.
I haven't liked your play, I don't like your black box garbage. I'm lynching you.

Town can play 3 way without having to deal with your shit.

I haven't done any stupid yolo shit. Fmpov everything I've done is advancing the town's win condition. You're the one who's paranoid.

Sorry but you're wrong about "3P being able to win with town is unlikely."

Lynching me doesn't help the town. Hell, lynching me doesn't even help the mafia given what I know. Therefore no one with any sense will vote me.

Sure town can make it in 3way. But mislynching on purpose to move win odds from 67% to 33% is game throwing.

[ɀefiend]

I will not unvote you without a hard and full claim.

Sorry, not happening. Mechanics and all that schnazz.

Good to know that if town loses we can blame your inane stubbornness.

[Killthestory]

Alright so basically a white light came over me, and when I recovered I checked all my belongings because it felt like something got stolen from me, but I don't know what it is.

Also, I can agree with this. If it comes down to it, I'll selfhammer. I'd just rather lynch SC before we lynch me.

[RadiantCowbells]

No, KTS.

Zefiend has claimed as not being town aligned and is not cooperating.

That is someone you lynch, 100% of the time.

[Killthestory]

im not sure i follow here

[RadiantCowbells]

1) Zefiend has claimed to be not aligned with the town.
2) Zefiend has done some ridiculous crap that we don't know what it does.
3) Zefiend's action has some weirdness that suggests it's not beneficial to town.
4) Zefiend used aforementioned action in a weird way.
5) Zefiend's win condition may very well run contrary to town's given our wincon's wording and the fact that this setup is bonkers as fuck already.

I don't see why you're not on board with forcing a full claim out.

[Fate]

The fuck is going on in not home


Don't lynch ANYONE until I'm caught up

[ɀefiend]

Alright so basically a white light came over me, and when I recovered I checked all my belongings because it felt like something got stolen from me, but I don't know what it is.

Also, I can agree with this. If it comes down to it, I'll selfhammer. I'd just rather lynch SC before we lynch me.

I understand. It's just that, for reasons that I can't fully delve into, town win rate dips from 2/3 to ~1/2 if we lynch you and SC in the opposite order.

[ɀefiend]

No, KTS.

Zefiend has claimed as not being town aligned and is not cooperating.

That is someone you lynch, 100% of the time.

I have never claimed anything, much less not being town aligned.

I promise I am cooperating to the best of my ability.

Dealing with absolutes like that is foolish. Do not act like you are not familiar with the term "jointing," as in win-conditions.

[ɀefiend]

1) Zefiend has claimed to be not aligned with the town.
2) Zefiend has done some ridiculous crap that we don't know what it does.
3) Zefiend's action has some weirdness that suggests it's not beneficial to town.
4) Zefiend used aforementioned action in a weird way.
5) Zefiend's win condition may very well run contrary to town's given our wincon's wording and the fact that this setup is bonkers as fuck already.

I don't see why you're not on board with forcing a full claim out.

You are alleging a lot of things that you cannot prove.

I haven't done anything but make posts that share as much information about my strategy for helping town win this game as I possibly can.

I will repeat: the town can win this game whether I'm alive or not. Keeping me alive greatly improves the odds of town winning (from 33% to 50% if you ignore my wishes to 67% if you listen to me).

[ɀefiend]

The fuck is going on in not home


Don't lynch ANYONE until I'm caught up

I strongly encourage you to vote KTS as soon as possible.

It may not matter, but if it does matter, it will be crucially important as long as RC continues being stubborn.

[Killthestory]

THE FUCK IS THIS RIGHT NOW

[Fate]

zefiend I don't trust you one fucking bit

and that cheeky alien message

I'm still on the same page as RC.

Lynching Zefiend first is the play here. KTS is already confirmed mafia if you're really a jailkeeper so, what's this percentages bullshit?

[Fate]

Vote: zefiend

[Fate]

I regret outing you as the obvious Jailkeeper.

Should've waited to see what shady shit you tried to pull off on your own

I basically handed you your fakeclaim didn't I

[Fate]

I dont even know where I got jailkeeper from

You're jsut a goddamn roleblocker thief alien thing arent you

[Fate]

Here are some things I

can

say:

1) I'm not seeing how it's auto-town-win. If KTS flips town, the last mafia can simply NK. Then RC and I still have a 50/50 between SC and Fate.

2) The town can win while I am still alive. Lynching me does not advance the town's win condition.

3) I apologize in advance Fate. You're just a little too talkative

VOTE: Killthestory

THIS IS A SCUM CLAIM IN CASE YOU MISSED IT KTS

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE:

24H to claim or we lynch you.

[SirCakez]

Zefiend you need to claim everything since you're apparently a third-party.

[zakk]

VOTE COUNT 4.1

Killthestory [1] [L-2]

– ɀefiend

SirCakez [1] [L-2]

– Killthestory

ɀefiend [1] [L-2]

– Fate

Not voting:

RadiantCowbells, SirCakez

[SirCakez]

Where the hell did the votestealer theory come from?

[ɀefiend]

VOTE: Unvote

We are not lynching KTS. We are lynching one of Fate or SC today, and the other tomorrow.

I now know with 100% certainty that I was the attempted night kill. The mafia must have thought that I interfere with their win condition. Bad for me cuz I got shot, but good for the town as a whole if you choose to believe me.

It actually is an auto-win for town as long as you don't waste a misslynch on me. KTS is clear, and RC is clear.

And stop asking me to fucking claim. If any of you could read between the lines you'd realize why I haven't claimed. I've been crumbling everywhere though, as early as D2.