New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[Aristophanes]

hey all

Reading up now

See you when you finish catching up next week.

Still better than their predecessor

[DrippingGoofball]

I believe iraonavp more than Fragger.

Let's lynch Yume so we can decide tomorrow

[Killthestory]

lol im going to lynch you for tunneling this fucking hard on inactives. this is literally a PL wagon

[RachMarie]

Still reading some points though quickly from D 1

bug dude is clearly a noob, most likely town. Even a newbscum would have hemmed a bit not come right out with VT like that, BTW bug DONT do that again. Only claim if you are about to be lynched, or in the case of a mass claim.

Need more from Slan so far hes not given me much to peg him.

Even in theory you do not suggest NL on D1

That being said, ira is probably town, annoying, but town. I can't see someone voting NL like that with at least a couple peeps yelling we have to have a lynch on D1.

Moving along more later now back to reading up on D 2

[Killthestory]

no don't comment on irao i want them lynched today

[Aristophanes]

lol im going to lynch you for tunneling this fucking hard on inactives. this is literally a PL wagon

Nope, it's literally a vanity wagon.

Come on guys Yume is scum

I know it's just a vanity wagon now

But he's scum

[RachMarie]

@ Kill

Do you want to lynch Ira cause you think he is scum? Or do you want to lynch him because you find him annoying?

[Killthestory]

scum or it's a 1v1 tradeoff where frag is confirmed scum which im also fine with

[RachMarie]

Ok I can accept that as reasoning,

Back to reading up

[RachMarie]

Still early on page 2 but why are we giving Oz dude a pass? Well other than Slan that is, feeling better about Slan going in the town pile now that I see a bit more from him.

[Killthestory]

dont try to comment on every page. just read and give your thoughts or youll never finish

[Aristophanes]

dont try to comment on every page. just read and give your thoughts or youll never finish

Unless you do it Ranger-Style!
Make a list, check it twice, adapt it every page or two so we can follow your progression few to no extra words needed!

[RachMarie]

D 2 read up

Sorry you are so sick Oz Hope you feel better soon, still feel your slot is scum though.

what on earth was that crazy claim by snarky? I can see why he got hammered after that.

@Kill doing short catchups as I go along so that its not one huge ass wall,

[RachMarie]

Ok caught up

what is with all these PR claims uggh,

There were two deaths on N1, and frag is an un CCed PR claim, of watcher.

Yes you can have a town ascetic, I was one in a game a long time ago, but it was not a normal game, micro one I believe it was, would have to double check. Town ascetic is actually a very swingy role and not super helpful to town since it can't be investigated by a cop or a seer. What on earth would a town ascetic enabler do? I have never heard of that role.

At this point, we go with the results, after all if Frag is fake claiming this, and it feels likely he is not, then he would swing tomorrow and he knows that,


VOTE: ira

[RachMarie]

Slan, Kill, bug, SS are in my town pile,

Frag too based on the claim,

Ira, Oz, in my scum pile,

Still sorting everyone else out for now.

[KickAssAndGiggle]

I think its 90/10 that iraonavp is telling the truth over Frag, but ascetic enabler is such a bad role. I seriously doubt we have an ascetic, so it's gonna be scum.

VOTE: iraonavp

L-1

[Something_Smart]

I hate to admit it, but I keep getting this irrational feeling that if Frag is scum then he's cheating us out of a mislynch at no cost to him (given that he's being lynched anyway), and I'm really annoyed about it.
I know theory says vote Ira, but I had him as clearly town and Frag as clearly scum and it feels wrong that the best play is to lynch a townread.
That said, I must admit that both claims are believable. Frag's PR "slip" was nice if he is scum (and his play, albeit super scummy, is consistent with his claim), and ira's softclaiming seems real and I find it very difficult to imagine someone making up a claim like that.

[Slandaar]

Things can't be neutral?

No.

I see. Well we disagree on that.

Assume there is a player X who is playing similar to Snarky and doing very little.

If this player X is town then they are helping scum I can accept this argument. They are helping scum because they are an easy target for a mislynch. The issue is that player X can be scum. When they are scum they are helping town making themselves a likely target for a lynch so their actions are pro-town. Taking all this into account we can say their actions are actually neutral unless you know their alignment. What they are actually doing is being anti-agenda, which is to say they are not playing to help their agenda whatever that is.

So their play style can do a 180 mid-game? Does that sound town-like to you?

It's a neutral action

Both town and scum should want to survive. Deciding they need to post more content to not be lynched is not purely a scum action. It's pro-agenda to tie it in to my above explanation.

Snarky is not helping the town. Snarky does not produce content. Snarky is coasting by, laying under the radar more than anyone (save one or two) and

Snarky doesn't show that he's going to do anything differently.

You imply Snarky posting more would have been a town action here.
?

Will be back later to respond to other stuff.

[Axl_Rose]

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With 16 Alive, it's 9 to Lynch!

Mod Notes:

"IYOYlqOitDA"
[Replacing Yume]

• (0)
  KuroiXHF
  —
  (0)
  Ozgin
  —
  (0)
  Aristophanes
  —
  (0)
  Killthestory
  —
  (0)
  Performer
  —
  (0)
  Drixx
  —
  (0)
  Ilikebugs
  —
  (0)
  Firebringer
  —
  (0)
  RachMarie
  —
  (0)
  Something_Smart
  —
  (0)
  Slandaar
  —
  
  (2)
  Yume
  — DrippingGoofball, Firebringer
  
  (8)
  iraonavp
  — Fraggernaut, Drixx, Killthestory, Aristophanes, Slandaar, KuroiXHF, RachMarie, KickAssAndGiggle
  (0)
  DrippingGoofball
  —
  (0)
  KickAssAndGiggle
  —
  
  (3)
  Fraggernaut
  — Ozgin, Performer, iraonavp
  
  
  (3)
  [Not Voting]
  —
  Ilikebugs, Yume, Something_Smart

- (expired on 2016-05-14 23:00:32) -

[Performer]

Checking in, need to catch up this week.

[RachMarie]

Perf at this point, I would focus on the past few pages, we have only a few days left and too many lurkers in this game.

[DrippingGoofball]

Perf at this point, I would focus on the past few pages, we have only a few days left and too many lurkers in this game.

Too bad you replaced into a scum slot.

[RachMarie]

DGB why are you only focused on lurkers this game, you know as well as I do that lurking can be done by both town and scum. I plan on spending some time reading your ISO pretty carefully, since I often think you are scum in games, even when I am wrong, Which is why I have not yet pegged you.

[DrippingGoofball]

Your iraonav vote was scummy.

[RachMarie]

So that means you think frag is fake claiming that would mean you think frag is scum, why are you not voting for him then instead of a non entity like yume?