Open 633: Near Vanilla-GAME OVER

[Ollie]

@Titus who did you replace? I can't seem to find it in the OP?

She replaced Bellaphant with an alt: Virtue, then just started posting as her.

[RachMarie]

@ mod could you get that fixed in the OP? Thanks

[RachMarie]

Ok have read through the entire game, still need to do some isos on a few peeps.

When did people start doing tiered reads? its weird.

Masq has not yet convinced me I am wrong about Lowell's slot so pretty happy with where my vote is.

Imp is correct the nks are bizarre and not at all who I would have thought they would be. I would have expected more likely someone like Imp or MoI really. Still though overall feel they are town and not scum though based on their postings, and though Nacho can be very tricky as scum, this is mostly Tammy posting here and it feels like the Tammy I know, again I am more familiar with her town games than scum games. But yeah Nacho as scum would have bussed one of his scum buds by now. He bussed me when I was the only scum PR in a game. The dream game could find it iffen anyone is interested. Not sure why my pred was so rude to them though

need more from Titus, Belle seemed a bit scummy, but then she went to a non entity.

Will work on those ISOs this weekend, going to go relax for a while, have dinner and get to sleep at a decent time. Tomorrow is wound care for my cellulitis and I can't miss that appointment, and I may or may not be up to much on the computer afterwards. So Friday for sure.

[Ranger]

You're not voting so you're not pushing any kind of case and you've been putting off reads for a while now.

This is true.

This is also something I've never done as scum.

This is because I am still not sure on anything and until I am sure on something I'm deliberately not voting.

The fact remains that even with my focus on Rach’s slot today over yours that you aren’t doing anything to actually scum-hunt. You pop in, make some defensive comments, and leave.

This is also true, but also is from the above.

I’m not impressed and thus you are in the scum-pool.

I would only hold issue with this if I did not see where you were coming from.

But I do.

Why haven't you asked me shit?

Why would I?

[Titus]

Why wouldn't you if sorting me?

[Ranger]

I generally don't sort by questions.

I sort by reading and/or pointing things out and/or talking.

Our talk right now is null for what it's worth. I'm not getting anything and I don't think I will. It's a waste of time for someone who in this game is already wasting her time.

[Masquerade]

Ranger, I've never seen you so disengaged with the game before. I've also never played with you that you were scum and meta doesn't do anything for me. I need to interact and meta-reads don't give me that option. So interact with me and with others and start pointing stuff out.
How come you are not sure of anything?

[Ranger]

Ranger, I've never seen you so disengaged with the game before.

This is a lie.

I absolutely was not engaged in Blitz 22, and that was

your first game with me

. (Well, at least under your name; I don't know if you played with me prior to that because I don't know your main.)

How come you are not sure of anything?

I'm not sure of anything. There's no "because" in there. I don't have confidence. Heck, for all I know, the townreads I insist upon (MagnaofIllusion, Imperium, Killthestory, Nosferatu) could be wrong. I really don't think they are and, frankly, if I had to reread the entire game while also rereading every single living player looking at every single one of their posts to try and determine their alignment, I don't think I could do it.

[Masquerade]

Blitz 22 took all of 2 days because the cult targetted me and completely suicided. That's not a good example of your play to me.

[Masquerade]

AND there were 2 modkills on town.

[Masquerade]

I'm not sure of anything. There's no "because" in there. I don't have confidence. Heck, for all I know, the townreads I insist upon (MagnaofIllusion, Imperium, Killthestory, Nosferatu) could be wrong. I really don't think they are and, frankly, if I had to reread the entire game while also rereading every single living player looking at every single one of their posts to try and determine their alignment, I don't think I could do it.

And for this, I know exactly how you're feeling (if it's real and not scum-ate) because I'm feeling the same way. But at least I'm trying to work with what I can do and I don't even see you do that. You can always be wrong in any game you're in, how is this game different?

[Ranger]

Blitz 22 took all of 2 days because the cult targetted me and completely suicided. That's not a good example of your play to me.

And neither is this game.

You're being awfully convenient with your choice of knowledge in me.

You say my play this game isn't typical of my normal play, which I have myself admitted. You say you've never seen me play this way before, and I point out you have. After that, you say that game wasn't typical of my normal play so you discarded it. You can't have your cake and eat it too; which is it?

You can always be wrong in any game you're in, how is this game different?

One, I already was wrong. Two, I'm at constant risk of being the next mislynch and whenever I get mislynched I try to make it a point to have accurate, rather than emotionally-driven, reads. So, yes. This game is different.

[Masquerade]

You're being awfully convenient with your choice of knowledge in me.

Then let me put it in another way that I was hoping not to have to point out: I was scum so my perception in that game was completely different from this one. Also, with 2 townies modkilled day 1 after they've been clogging the thread with their arguments was a good enough reason to be disengaged from the game at all, so yes, I'm discarding that one.

And how exactly are you at risk of being the next misslynch? Because I'm the only one here voting you so that's really not a lot of pressure for you to be overly occupied with defending yourself.

[Ranger]

Also, with 2 townies modkilled day 1 after they've been clogging the thread with their arguments was a good enough reason to be disengaged from the game at all, so yes, I'm discarding that one.

I was disengaged both before and after the modkills. Their slots had nothing to do with my inability to get reads.

And how exactly are you at risk of being the next misslynch?

Lack of votes does not translate to lack of suspicion. I am a scumread of very influential players. Imperium and MagnaofIllusion both think I am scum, and I think both of them are town. (The only resistance my wagon is likely to encounter is from Killthestory and Nosferatu; both are also townreads and I think Nosferatu is townreading me and Killthestory definitely is.) There are three scum in the game who would gladly join a wagon on me especially to save themselves. {massive, RachMarie} both hold no opinion of me and even if they're not scum, they'd probably join my wagon; {you, Ollie} are both scumreading me and if for some reason one or somehow both of you were town (basically impossible), that would be 3/4 town all pushing my wagon.

So, yes. At any moment, I could be a mislynch, especially as deadline approaches day by day. Deadline-wagons are a

great

way of getting me mislynched. So, yes. I am being cautious. I'd rather be mislynched with no reads to be followed than mislynched with wrong reads to be followed.

[Ranger]

And if you think "mislynches never have their reads followed", that would be a valid statement for other players.
But I speak from experience.

People

do

follow my reads when I'm mislynched, bad or good.

I hold an obligation to prevent the bad and try for the good.

[kelbris]

Hi everyone, sorry about the lack of VC yesterday, will get one out shortly. I was sick yesterday and still am (but I gotta do what I gotta do). Also, @RachMarie, I will gladly fix that in the OP.

[kelbris]

VC 3.06

Titus (0): none
Ranger (1): Masquerade
MagnaofIllusion (0): none
Imperium (0): none
Killthestory (0): none
Masquerade (4) [L-2]: RachMarie, Ollie, Massive, Killthestory
Nosferatu (0): none
Massive (0): None
RachMarie (2) [L-4]: MagnaofIllusion, Titus
Ollie (0): none
not voting: Ranger, Imperium, Nosferatu
With 10 players alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch.
day 3 has begun, it will end in (expired on 2016-05-19 01:10:00)

[Titus]

VLA tomorrow through Tuesday

Imperium will likely be VLA for the same time.

[Killthestory]

will post in a bit, broke my foot

[Killthestory]

so ranger you think imperium and MoI are town? im cool with that.

can we like, lynch the Lowell slot or whoevers in it? it's clearly scum lmfao

[Ranger]

can we like, lynch the Lowell slot or whoevers in it? it's clearly scum

Most likely, yes.

Voting there would be L-1 though, and I'm not ready to lynch.

[Masquerade]

Oh lol didn't even realize I had that many votes yet.

Anyway, busy weekend, only here to announce I'm putting a v/la.

Mod

I'll be v/la through this weekend due to work and party.

[Masquerade]

Don't lynch me btw, it will be lylo if you do with 3 scum vs 4 town so nto a good idea. We need to find scum. Unless someone can stop the kill (don't say anything!) then we might have some more breathing room. Anyway, now would be a good time to let me know what it is you guys want from me because I'm sitting on a scumread on Ranger and I have absolutely no idea how to move forward. So ASK ME QUESTIONS AND ENGAGE WITH ME SO I CAN PROPERLY DEFEND. And stop it with Lowell was scum so lets vote Masq because I CAN'T DEFEND AGAINST THAT.

[Masquerade]

Oh ffs why can't I count?

Nvm...

[Masquerade]

It will be 3 vs 5.