Mini 1794: Gunslingers Ahoy! {Game Over}

[Accountant]

You keep claiming Dunnstral is sheeping while ignoring the fact that he's very clearly pushing you, and ignoring other people when they point that out. Why?

If he was reading closely it should have been clear what I was saying.

This is another vague, unexplanatory answer. I'm guessing if I press you on this you'd once more launch into the futile black hole that sucks up all discussion.

[MURDERCAT]

He didn't start pushing until I pointed out that he wasn't pushing me. Yet he did post in that time so he was around.

I'm not sure how to make that more clear. In 126 I explained very clearly (IMO) how I felt. 154 ignores what I think is clear in 126: that I am talking about what happened between his vote and me calling him out for not pushing me in 79.

[BlackStar]

@BlackStar

That wasn't really a defense. I just thought it was silly that

we were rushing towards a lynch

. I also think it's scummy that you're trying to force an association between me and him before he even gets lynched

Several of your posts are giving me bad vibes.

When do you think it's appropriate to start trying to lynch someone?

There IS an association between you and MURDERCAT now. The nature of that association remains to be seen. Also, I believe that was the first time you actually called someone's actions as scummy. Yet, you aren't pushing or pursuing discourse with Dunnstral for his actions.

All you've said is that he gives you a bad feeling, and then outta nowhere, your vote on MURDERCAT is now serious.

Your progression in this game is all over the place. Stop "observing" and start scum-hunting, please.

That's not an association. Any normal person would think it's weird that somebody was at L-2 on like the 3rd page. This game is pretty bad so far. You're all death tunneling a player who clearly seems inexperienced and acting like his mistakes can only be seen as the actions of scum. I think Dunnstral is scum, so murdercat is probably town. You said that I didn't "pursue discourse with Dunnstral". I wasn't even here so of course I didn't. Dunnstral is trying to tie me to murdercat just because I questioned why everyone was ready to lynch him so quickly. That's ridiculously weak and it's even worse that he's trying to do this before we even get a flip. Then he said my individual actions were scummy but doesn't give any examples of things I've said that he thinks are scummy. He's earned my vote

VOTE: dunnstral

[Accountant]

Do you, MURDERCAT, as of right now, believe that Dunnstral is pushing you? If so, do you agree that this invalidates your previous complaint about him not pushing you? Those are yes or no questions, any other answer will lead me to believe that you are trying to obfuscate through wording.

[MURDERCAT]

This is a weird turnaround, disregard my previous read. It now feels much more like white knighting.

[Dunnstral]

Here let me start off the new wagon

VOTE: BlackStar

[MURDERCAT]

Do you, MURDERCAT, as of right now, believe that Dunnstral is pushing you? If so, do you agree that this invalidates your previous complaint about him not pushing you? Those are yes or no questions, any other answer will lead me to believe that you are trying to obfuscate through wording.

Yes

he is pushing me now.

No

I don't think it invalidates things because the pushing is coming after I mentioned the lack of a push.

[BlackStar]

Here let me start off the new wagon

VOTE: BlackStar

You're the new wagon.

[Accountant]

I don't like 177. He brushes off every case against MURDERCAT when he said my push was good earlier and that his vote against MURDERCAT was serious. He misreps Dunnstral by claiming Dunn was trying to tie him to MURDERCAT. The tone of the post also sounds really defensive - was zefiend maybe a little too on the mark?

Would still rather vote MURDERCAT because I can make a better choice about BlackStar in the face of a cat flip than I can make a choice about cat in the face of a star flip.

[MURDERCAT]

Dunn what is your read on me right now?

[BlackStar]

I knew he'd come out with a townread on BlackStar with little explanation

I just knew it

Casting shade for no reason. Classic scum move

And it's great because BlackStar is the real person who voted and then didn't pressure

I'm not saying he's scummy but he should be from Murdercat's point of view

Passive aggressively pushing me while trying to look like he isn't

Actually I am saying BlackStar is scummy because he is

And now he outright calls me scummy without saying why. None of this seems townie

[MURDERCAT]

Accountant if I am town what is your Blackstar read?

[BlackStar]

I don't like 177. He brushes off every case against MURDERCAT when he said my push was good earlier and that his vote against MURDERCAT was serious. He misreps Dunnstral by claiming Dunn was trying to tie him to MURDERCAT. The tone of the post also sounds really defensive - was zefiend maybe a little too on the mark?

Would still rather vote MURDERCAT because I can make a better choice about BlackStar in the face of a cat flip than I can make a choice about cat in the face of a star flip.

I didn't misrep anything

Is anyone else seeing all these associative tells between blackstar and murdercat

I vote blackstar --> murdercat votes me
Murdercat getting bandwagoned ---> blackstar swoops in and tries to defend murdercat (which was weird)

It would be comical if the game is this easy

And I'm always defensive. Go look at any of my past games.

[Dunnstral]

I also didn't like 177, hence my vote. In fact that whole post felt off (probably because it's mostly wrong)

The thing is he was posturing to do this for a while and I knew it would eventually happen

Dunn what is your read on me right now?

Probably mafia to be honest

[Accountant]

Accountant if I am town what is your Blackstar read?

Depends on the people on your wagon. But if you dropped dead right now my read on BlackStar would shift towards town, very slightly.

[BlackStar]

I also didn't like 177, hence my vote. In fact that whole post felt off (probably because it's mostly wrong)

The thing is he was posturing to do this for a while and I knew it would eventually happen

Dunn what is your read on me right now?

Probably mafia to be honest

What's wrong about it?

[Dunnstral]

Would still rather vote MURDERCAT because I can make a better choice about BlackStar in the face of a cat flip than I can make a choice about cat in the face of a star flip.

How would Murdercat's role affect your opinion on BlackStar?

[MURDERCAT]

VOTE: blackstar

Honestly I'd be scumreading me right now because accountant looks good. I think you know I'm town. If we lynch me and I'm confirmed then you look good being on Dunn so you're trying to make a case on him and set him up for the next mislynch.

[Dunnstral]

But if you dropped dead right now my read on BlackStar would shift towards town, very slightly.

If he dropped dead and flipped what
Or just if he died from a dayvig (gunslinger)

[BlackStar]

I love how nobody is even looking for town motivation in my posts

[Accountant]

Go look at any of my past games.

I know this statement is NAI but in general I don't convince meta a real defense.

I think you made out Dunnstral's speculation to be way more than it is

[MURDERCAT]

I assume town as that's the scenario I put forward.

[Accountant]

I'm going to go to lunch, hopefully the Koufu has wifi so I can continue grilling people >:D

[BlackStar]

I assume town as that's the scenario I put forward.

You just said that you think I know that you're scum and that I'm setting up a mislynch

[Dunnstral]

Unrelated but I'm not really getting good feelings from Derek12 either

Just the careful wording of their posts and the content... just not a good feeling about them