Open 638: Friends and Enemies! (And Enemies!) - GAME OVER!

[KuroiXHF]

Vote Count - Day One - VC#12

killthestory - 2 - BTD6_Maker, karnos
Creature - 0 -
Kop - 0 -
Masquerade- 1 - randomidget
Kasumeat - 2 - Kop, Ranger
Javajoe24 - 0 -
Ranger - 2 - Javajoe, Ozymandias
karnos - 2 - killthestory, Creature
BTD6_maker - 0 - Creature
Ozymandias - 0 -
randomidget - 0 -
Charloux - 0 -

Not Voting: Charloux, Masquerade, Kasumeat

With twelve alive, it takes seven to lynch!

"Friends are the siblings God never gave us." - Menscius.

(expired on 2016-05-31 11:13:00)

Mod Notes:
- <3
- Masquerade is on V/LA.

[Kasumeat]

Intentionally or not, you're playing exactly how a fakeclaiming scum would play in your spot

[karnos]

So, should everybody check in and say they don't counterclaim?

That is the same as handing the scum a list of masons to kill, if every VT & scum check in with a "no counterclaim".

Only one mason needs to counter claim. Alternatively, kop or ranger could claim non-mason, though it wouldn't shock me if one of them (ranger probably) is actually a scum partner willing to go along with the charade.

[karnos]

We still have 10 days and 15 hours. No need to rush anything.

[Kasumeat]

So, should everybody check in and say they don't counterclaim?

That is the same as handing the scum a list of masons to kill, if every VT & scum check in with a "no counterclaim".

Only one mason needs to counter claim. Alternatively, kop or ranger could claim non-mason, though it wouldn't shock me if one of them (ranger probably) is actually a scum partner willing to go along with the charade.

KTS already DID hand them that list, real or not.

And I think you're suggesting that a scumbuddy Ranger might claim Mason too, which would also be incredibly stupid because then a single counterclaim by the real Masons would kill both scum.

[Creature]

If you want, then wait Kop check in.

[Creature]

Town Mason - Killthestory
Town Mason - Ranger
Town Mason - Kop
Vanilla Town - Creature
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town

Let's close this list then we can PoE.

[Killthestory]

i like creature, but im not sure how much i like creature

[karnos]

KTS already DID hand them that list, real or not.

And I think you're suggesting that a scumbuddy Ranger might claim Mason too, which would also be incredibly stupid because then a single counterclaim by the real Masons would kill both scum.

Fair enough, I agree that ranger wouldn't be that foolish even if she is the scum partner.

And at this point I am betting the list is fake. We'll see. Probably get myself lynched if I am wrong, but I've seen multiple posts from KTS supporting my theory and his last slip was enough to push things over the edge IMO.

[Killthestory]

shut up karnos youre embarrassing yourself more and more

[Kasumeat]

Town Mason - Killthestory
Town Mason - Ranger
Town Mason - Kop
Vanilla Town - Creature
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town
Vanilla Town

Let's close this list then we can PoE.

I forgot my role so I'm not sure where I go on this list

[Killthestory]

K E K

[Creature]

Well, do you want to be mafia or werewolf?

[Kasumeat]

Well, do you want to be mafia or werewolf?

Hell yes

[Killthestory]

K E K K K K K

[Creature]

Well, do you want to be mafia or werewolf?

Hell yes

Which one?

[Kasumeat]

Well, do you want to be mafia or werewolf?

Hell yes

Which one?

Either is good, this game is looking easy either way

[Javajoe24]

Wow..... This game.... Wtf, why did the masons claim day 1??? Really guys, I think it has to be legit because by now a real mason would have countered. But I also agree that we shouldn't rush things because we have so much time left. Give everyone a chance to respond. Also, if this is a fake claim, please only one mason counter. I doubt it is a fake claim but just in case. I don't like karnos' latest post against kts. I understand you think it may be fake, but if it is we will know soon, no need to push the issue so hard right now. If it is true, bad luck for getting kop as a mason considering how inactive he is. For now I need to...

UNVOTE:

[Javajoe24]

Also, how do you forget your role? If your town and not a mason then you are a VT. The only explanation of this is if you forgot if you were Werewolf or mafia. But you did something like this last time and were town so idk....

[Javajoe24]

Kts, why btd over other players?

[Javajoe24]

Orbit am going to sheep you I would like to know why at least

[Killthestory]

java's entrance is bad

[Ozymandias]

Well, alright then, I guess.

Find a quote where I try to defend him, without actually defending him.

I quite literally quoted it when I made the original accusation.

I agree that it was an horrible post, in general, but is it more likely to come from scum or town?

So I repeat. This is trying to defend him (the second half), without trying to defend him (the first half), ergo, neutral stance without actually being neutral.

Oops, my bad. I will try to pay more attention to pronouns.

Regarding the first part, here is my full post, of which you quoted only one sentence.

Ranger, do you really believe your reads?

if so, explain what about this...

The buddying between Creature and Ranger was just so hard and came out of nowhere and it was Creature defending a post which even Ranger admitted was stupid as fuck. I suppose it's possible they're masons but I cannot possibly believe they're both VT.

... would come from scum.

I agree that it was an horrible post, in general, but is it more likely to come from scum or town?

As far as I know, scum can speculate about Masons in their thread. It just confirm my read on Katsu, his posts are genuine, even if bad.

I think I make it pretty clear that I think Kasu is Town, saying I didn't really defend him is ridiculous. The question you quoted was obviously rhetoric and was I supposed to say that it was a good post when it was not?

[Ozymandias]

To whoever asked me why I unvoted Karnos and voted ranger, it was because he had not been online since I replaced in and I did not want to leave my vote there until he came online. I still don't really like his posts, even though I only skimmed the last three pages.

VOTE: BTD6_maker

I am still waiting for you to explain the Kasu read step by step, because your stance on him was awkward, to say the least.

And your reads list was questionable, to say the least.

I will re read the last pages better when I have the time.

[Ozymandias]

Hmmm, I am not sure Scum!Karnos would go against people who are probably Masons this way. I may need to rethink that read.