Mass Effect Mafia - [Game Over]

[beeboy]

dayvig: Kuroi

[beeboy]

I am killing you because Nahdia make me giggle.

[KuroiXHF]

dayvig: Kuroi

If this isn't real, I'm voting you.

[Cake Effect]

Not really
Salarians/Krogans/Geth are still going to be looking for mislynches on Humans. And they'll also be avoiding lynching each other.

I'm trying to approach it as Human/Asari/Turian vs Salarian/Krogan/Geth for now. Makes it simpler to scumhunt.

-SC

not necessarily, they will in actuality each be looking for lynches on anyone who isn't themselves. There's no real way to simplify it by grouping the factions, and if so geth would not be with salarians and krogans.

It would look more like:

Salarian - mafia faction
Krogan - werewolf faction
Geth - 3p masons with modified win conditions

Likewise since Humans, Asari, and Turians do not all win together, they cannot be considered part of one "town" faction. Everyone is uninformed to a degree, so grouping factions is a futile effort.

Really only way to go about it is kill everyone who isn't in your faction. This game is a veiled free-for-all.

No?
Humans/Turians/Asari all want the Geth and to an extent the Krogans/Salarians dead, Krogans/Salarians/Geth all want the Humans dead. It's not just a free-for-all.
And the comparison of Geth to Masons with changed win conditions is ???

My point is that they cannot all win together. In the end there will be at most two factions alive, with one consisting of only one person. Geth are 3p masons because they have a PT and know that everyone in that PT are of the same alignment, but they have no nightkill, so they are not scum.

Humans/Asari/Turians all want Geth dead. Geth want Humans/Asari/Turians dead.
How are they not scum???

i know i was purposefully speaking jibberish

anyway

Gladiate: Nosferatu

This isn't funny anymore.

This is so stiff and awkward. What's wrong with the joking?

dayvig: Kuroi

If this isn't real, I'm voting you.

-SC

[KuroiXHF]

Nahdia makes this joke nearly every game I'm with her. I'm not saying I'm offended. I'm saying it's not funny, because it's not, just like if I told you a joke for the fifth time.

[FA_Q2]

Not really
Salarians/Krogans/Geth are still going to be looking for mislynches on Humans. And they'll also be avoiding lynching each other.

I'm trying to approach it as Human/Asari/Turian vs Salarian/Krogan/Geth for now. Makes it simpler to scumhunt.

-SC

not necessarily, they will in actuality each be looking for lynches on anyone who isn't themselves. There's no real way to simplify it by grouping the factions, and if so geth would not be with salarians and krogans.

It would look more like:

Salarian - mafia faction
Krogan - werewolf faction
Geth - 3p masons with modified win conditions

Likewise since Humans, Asari, and Turians do not all win together, they cannot be considered part of one "town" faction. Everyone is uninformed to a degree, so grouping factions is a futile effort.

Really only way to go about it is kill everyone who isn't in your faction. This game is a veiled free-for-all.

No?
Humans/Turians/Asari all want the Geth and to an extent the Krogans/Salarians dead, Krogans/Salarians/Geth all want the Humans dead. It's not just a free-for-all.
And the comparison of Geth to Masons with changed win conditions is ???

My point is that they cannot all win together. In the end there will be at most two factions alive, with one consisting of only one person. Geth are 3p masons because they have a PT and know that everyone in that PT are of the same alignment, but they have no nightkill, so they are not scum.

Except that the geth can only win with the scum.

I agree with your point that we cannot look at multiple factions as being on one side but the geth are NOT mason like at all considering that their goal must really be to kill all of town (and anyone that can win with town). Geth can literally win with scum bat cannot win with town.

[FA_Q2]

I am Marcus Aurelius Copernicus Maximus Quinius. *strikes a pose*

Are you going to post something that is not worthless any time soon?

[Varsoon]

If anything, Yume should be the Gladiator with that sort of a crumb, eh?

[FA_Q2]

Southern Spice dropped out... they were probably in a lame faction. That's why I want to lynch their replacement.

What a shit reason. That is completely nonsensical by any measuer. The most 'lame' role in the game is really VT anyway though there are people that prefer such a role. What makes you think that this particular replacement was related to role anyway?

Southern Spice dropped out... they were probably in a lame faction. That's why I want to lynch their replacement.

I actually agree with that.

VOTE: FA_Q2

If his reasoning is shit (which it is), you are scummy as hell for latching onto it. Can you not even think of your own garbage reason to place a vote?

VOTE: TTH

[FA_Q2]

VOTE: Nahdia

Naked votes are naked.

Suzune, Nahdia, Cake Effect, and beeboy are all scum

Naked proclamations are naked as well. Read that as worthless. How about some reasoning to back that up?

[Nosferatu]

i know i was purposefully speaking jibberish

anyway

Gladiate: Nosferatu

u fuked up fam

Not really
Salarians/Krogans/Geth are still going to be looking for mislynches on Humans. And they'll also be avoiding lynching each other.

I'm trying to approach it as Human/Asari/Turian vs Salarian/Krogan/Geth for now. Makes it simpler to scumhunt.

-SC

not necessarily, they will in actuality each be looking for lynches on anyone who isn't themselves. There's no real way to simplify it by grouping the factions, and if so geth would not be with salarians and krogans.

It would look more like:

Salarian - mafia faction
Krogan - werewolf faction
Geth - 3p masons with modified win conditions

Likewise since Humans, Asari, and Turians do not all win together, they cannot be considered part of one "town" faction. Everyone is uninformed to a degree, so grouping factions is a futile effort.

Really only way to go about it is kill everyone who isn't in your faction. This game is a veiled free-for-all.

No?
Humans/Turians/Asari all want the Geth and to an extent the Krogans/Salarians dead, Krogans/Salarians/Geth all want the Humans dead. It's not just a free-for-all.
And the comparison of Geth to Masons with changed win conditions is ???

My point is that they cannot all win together. In the end there will be at most two factions alive, with one consisting of only one person. Geth are 3p masons because they have a PT and know that everyone in that PT are of the same alignment, but they have no nightkill, so they are not scum.

Humans/Asari/Turians all want Geth dead. Geth want Humans/Asari/Turians dead.
How are they not scum???

The point is that there is no scum; everyone wants everyone who isn't in their faction dead but can tolerate one member from either one of two factions.

If there are 5 humans and 3 asari left, minimum two people need to die for a faction to win. They are not allied. They are simply lower in priority because it is

possible

to win with them.

Quintessentially, there is no [town] or [scum], there is only [your faction] and [everyone else]. And if the last one who isn't your faction is alive, they're lucky if they roll a race compatible with yours, otherwise they've got to go as well.

[Varsoon]

@Nos: Then why isn't everyone voting for me?
Clearly, there is a higher need to vote off players with factional access to kills.

[FA_Q2]

Yeah, it's a six-faction game and my chances of winning are rubbish anyway, so
I'm Turian. My character card is blue, my name is Tarquin Victus and my human-fake-claim is David Anderson.

Since Beeboy's already pushing that I softed one or the other so hard, chances are that people are going to play around it anyway, and I don't think I gain anything from keeping this in the dark.

Apologies to my other Turi-bro if I fucked this up, but even if I die, you can still win with the humans.

P-EDIT:
@Beeboy: Let's just lynch 'em.

Why?

This was totally unnecessary. We are at the early stages of the game, there is always pressure coming from all over the place for no reason. I don't think you even garnered one vote on this. All that pushing against Elsa's piss poor plan and then you had to go and follow it...

[Nosferatu]

@Nos: Then why isn't everyone voting for me?
Clearly, there is a higher need to vote off players with factional access to kills.

what part of lower in priority is unclear to you?

[FA_Q2]

i know i was purposefully speaking jibberish

anyway

Gladiate: Nosferatu

u fuked up fam

Not really
Salarians/Krogans/Geth are still going to be looking for mislynches on Humans. And they'll also be avoiding lynching each other.

I'm trying to approach it as Human/Asari/Turian vs Salarian/Krogan/Geth for now. Makes it simpler to scumhunt.

-SC

not necessarily, they will in actuality each be looking for lynches on anyone who isn't themselves. There's no real way to simplify it by grouping the factions, and if so geth would not be with salarians and krogans.

It would look more like:

Salarian - mafia faction
Krogan - werewolf faction
Geth - 3p masons with modified win conditions

Likewise since Humans, Asari, and Turians do not all win together, they cannot be considered part of one "town" faction. Everyone is uninformed to a degree, so grouping factions is a futile effort.

Really only way to go about it is kill everyone who isn't in your faction. This game is a veiled free-for-all.

No?
Humans/Turians/Asari all want the Geth and to an extent the Krogans/Salarians dead, Krogans/Salarians/Geth all want the Humans dead. It's not just a free-for-all.
And the comparison of Geth to Masons with changed win conditions is ???

My point is that they cannot all win together. In the end there will be at most two factions alive, with one consisting of only one person. Geth are 3p masons because they have a PT and know that everyone in that PT are of the same alignment, but they have no nightkill, so they are not scum.

Humans/Asari/Turians all want Geth dead. Geth want Humans/Asari/Turians dead.
How are they not scum???

The point is that there is no scum; everyone wants everyone who isn't in their faction dead but can tolerate one member from either one of two factions.

If there are 5 humans and 3 asari left, minimum two people need to die for a faction to win. They are not allied. They are simply lower in priority because it is

possible

to win with them.

Quintessentially, there is no [town] or [scum], there is only [your faction] and [everyone else]. And if the last one who isn't your faction is alive, they're lucky if they roll a race compatible with yours, otherwise they've got to go as well.

In fear of getting to far into a setup discussion, I think that there clearly is scum because Salarian and Krogan have factional kills. That makes them essentally scum and the ones that we need to be lynching.

[Nahdia]

i know i was purposefully speaking jibberish

anyway

Gladiate: Nosferatu

u fuked up fam

mb bud i take it back

Nahdia makes this joke nearly every game I'm with her. I'm not saying I'm offended. I'm saying it's not funny, because it's not, just like if I told you a joke for the fifth time.

[Varsoon]

@FA_Q2: I don't think anyone else should claim. I only claimed because I felt everyone was going to assume I'm Taurian/Asari anyway and I think Claiming was what was best for me at the time. I still like Elsa's plan is terrible and they're probably not Human-aligned.

@Nosferatu: So it's a higher priority to lynch in an unclear pool rather than lynch a definitive alignment if the definitive alignment is lower priority than people who are in the unclear pool?

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: Nahdia

If it was real, you couldn't take it back.

[Spiffeh]

There are so many words

[Nahdia]

VOTE: Nahdia

If it was real, you couldn't take it back.

cool it, twerp.

[Nosferatu]

@Nosferatu: So it's a higher priority to lynch in an unclear pool rather than lynch a definitive alignment if the definitive alignment is lower priority than people who are in the unclear pool?

you should go salarian/krogan > geth > turian/asarian assuming you are human. In the end you will have to lynch a turian or an asari to win. Obviously this priority will change depending on what you roll.

[KuroiXHF]

VOTE: Nahdia

If it was real, you couldn't take it back.

cool it, twerp.

*puts your vote on ice*

[Nahdia]

Nosferatu is vaguely scummy to me because he's making a lot of mechanical observations which are kinda stilted towards implying "look at me i am a human this is what a human does beep boop i am human"

[Varsoon]

@Nos: But if I don't know anyone's alignment for sure, should I still lynch in the pool that has a solarian/krogan in it rather than lynching someone who is outed as Asari/Geth?

[beeboy]

I have been thinking about this and I realized that I have been pretty obvious Turian/Asari.
I also realized that Varsoon is incredibly likely going to use his cop on me and will get a negative result. Then after that happens I don't want to deal with the crap I will get.
So I just want to say I am an Asari

P.S. Asari don't be stupid like me and don't claim.

I really didn't want to claim but I just want to get it out of the way before the Turian start targeting me and ganging up on me.