Mass Effect Mafia - [Game Over]

[Ranger]

{curiouskarmadog, Varsoon (well, sorta)}
{Nahdia, beeboy (well, sorta)}
{Yume, Spiffeh, DrippingGoofBall, Dwlee, SethYazura}
{PeregrineV, Suzune, TellTaleHeart, Kuroi, FA_Q2, Nosferatu}
{Klingoncelt, Expedience}
{Party Boat}
{Cake Effect, Shiro}
{Bait}

please explain why you aren't voting bait, and want to side with a non-human, or, well, die i guess?

I mean that I'm going to work with RC for as long as possible to eliminate mutual enemies. He's not human, that's painfully obvious, but as long as his wincon isn't in a guaranteed absolute conflict with mine, I'm going to work with him.
Also, my ability is a neighborize, so I'm flat-out going to get a neighborhood with him starting D2. I see no reason not to claim this.

[Elsa and Anna]

VOTE: Ranger

I'm human, you should know better.

[Cake Effect]

VOTE: Ranger

I'm human, you should know better.

vote bait.

[Elsa and Anna]

no.

[Cake Effect]

no.

Bait scum claimed.
You claim to be human.
vote bait.

[Ranger]

Ranger has Beeboy as a second tier townread and has claimed a scumread on me but is not pushing me.

The reason beeboy isn't in the top tier is that he made a very...not-Asari post: in 199, he is under the belief that Varsoon would only get a negative on an Asari.
But as an Asari himself, he should know that he gets negatives on everyone except other Asari, not just on a Turian.

Then there's the fact that the Asari

do not know the other Asari

, yet in 200, he says he's claiming so that the Asari don't need to save him.

As for you, that's been explained. You're who I'm planning to neighborize. That's my night action. You're not human. That's painfully, painfully obvious. This does not necessarily mean we cannot win together, and even IF you're outside the group I can win with, that doesn't mean we don't have common enemies we want dead first.

[Ranger]

Also, Bait did literally scumclaim, but if everyone voted Bait right now we'd end the day with only half the players having checked in.

So I'm not voting Bait right now, even though I intend to.

[Cake Effect]

Why are you talking to me as if I'm town if we're your second scumread? Why are we your second scumread?

[Elsa and Anna]

Ranger's just scum full stop. Probably with Beeboy.
He explained like absolutely gamebreaking issues with Beeboy's claim and then... moved him down to tier 2. No explanation of why the townread was ever that strong.

And the scumread on me? no.

[Ranger]

Why are you talking to me as if I'm town if we're your second scumread?

This is news to me. I don't see it.

Why are we your second scumread?

Because you are also, quite clearly, not human.

He explained like absolutely gamebreaking issues with Beeboy's claim and then... moved him down to tier 2. No explanation of why the townread was ever that strong.

The issues with beeboy's claim are not beyond the ability to be derped, and on play, I was townreading beeboy before his claim. I didn't see him as scum at all. Plus, that second tier? That's nulltown. Tier 3 is dead-null, tier 4, nullscum, tier 5, slight scumlean, tier 6, scumread, tier 7, strong scumread, tier 8, confscum.

In a

shocking

turn of events, in a game where most players are scum...I am scumreading or nullreading most of the players.

[Expedience]

I think bait is just half scum, let's not kill him

UNVOTE: curiouskarmadog

[Frozen Angel]

ego

[Expedience]

so sorry for asking a question on what people believe is optimal play.........??

VOTE: Party Boat

[Expedience]

I didn't mean to quote that.

[Expedience]

Bait is literal bait, guys.

[Shiro]

Tbh, the way I am seeing this game humans are fairly screwed.

I mean Asari and Turians have no real reason to side with us over krogan/salarian and krogan and salarian have no reason to side with the geth that can win with both sides thus too risky to keep.

But the geth van only help them so they have to giving each side a majority, making us pretty much useless to other parties par being a "majority" with no organization like them.

[Elsa and Anna]

Elsa is here!
I just realized this game is started.
will start reading in an hour.

~Elsa

[Expedience]

I think the point is that asari and turian are basically human.

I also think Varsoon is scum but there aren't votes on him.

[Expedience]

I think Cake Effect and curiouskarmadog are town.

[Shiro]

Not really since Asari can win with krogan and Turians can win with salarians.

More like selective survivors

[Elsa and Anna]

VOTE: CuriousKarmaDog
First person to form a counterwagon is always scum.

Also, I win with Humans.

you win with humans? what a weird choice of wording.

Oh, I thought people-who-won-with-humans was a majority?
Regardless, I was thinking of strategies.
Maybe everyone could claim human or non-human?
Although I don't know if that'd help/solve anything.
Someone with more time and a better brain should think on this.

pure survival faction haunting. Varsoon is in a scum faction or a is survivor who wants to hunt down the other survivor faction.

~Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

So, what is the 'town' reaction?
You're severely limiting yourself and weakening your game if you think anyone of any alignment is incapable of anything.

you effectively claimed not town.

whats up with getting defensive to the point someone said your not reacting like town.

are you claiming town now?

I simply said I win with humans.
As far as I am aware, Humans, Asari, and Turians win with humans.

huh , trying to fix it?

Here's my proposal.
Turians and Asari all massclaim not as their race but simply as 'Alien winning with town'
Then we can NL, they target outside of that pool, and lynch anyone that they get guilties on.
Easy!

bad plan. we need survivors to stay as hidden as they can. that make scum factions careful about who they kill at night. and we need them as ally to keep the majority. forcing them to claim might force them to join scums later in game.

~Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

As far as I am aware, we should be lynching the people with nightkills.
I don't think there's any claiming/setup gaming we can do D1 to help us to that end.
Elsa/Anna confirmed for most likely not Taurian/Asari
Which spikes the chances of Elsa/Anna being a faction I want to get rid of.
Unless they're just human and gross.

gross post

VOTE: Elsa and Anna

I wanted to RVS but you guys are so scummy :/

gross vote

RC was perfectly legit. be more direct when you want to claim your scumreading my slot.

Beeboy's scum though.
I'm sure he's not taking it personally?
I mean this is literally exactly what he did just a few games ago and he intentionally drove up the 'making it personal' aspect there so I'm not shying away from it here.

What game did I do that? The one where I was an angel on someone who was in the process of being lynched because I think these games are different.

You aren't thinking, Varsoon claimed a confirmable role and you are trying to lynch him.

w8 what? what did varsoon claimed? and what about it is "confirmable" ?

~Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

E&A, your read on beeboy is dependent on Varsoon being scum because he defends his scummates. Listen to yourself.

Look, maybe you have something here, but I'm not hopping on this train yet. I'm not nearly convinced enough and beeboy IS right, Varsoon's soft can be checked.

beeboy ftr i think your vote is bad. i don't think E&A is being scummy here, tunneling people is kinda RC's thing from what I can tell.

keeping middleground. I don't like it.

Suzune, Nahdia, Cake Effect, and beeboy are all scum

what a call. lol . 1 line for each read please?

~Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

UNVOTE:

If RC is scum he is geth right? So if he is scum that means he doesn't have a night kill.
I don't see the scum factions with kills hard pushing people who they can win with.

He can get a pass for now until later in the game.

only two mafia factions will spare their geth reads. geth faction has probably the most dangerous scum roles becuase of the nature of setup. scum points for beeboy

There are so many words

there are so many scums

I have been thinking about this and I realized that I have been pretty obvious Turian/Asari.
I also realized that Varsoon is incredibly likely going to use his cop on me and will get a negative result. Then after that happens I don't want to deal with the crap I will get.
So I just want to say I am an Asari

P.S. Asari don't be stupid like me and don't claim.

I really didn't want to claim but I just want to get it out of the way before the Turian start targeting me and ganging up on me.

huh

Its weird varsoon claiming Tuarian and beeboy claiming asuri while they want to be friend with each other. Don't make the game kingmaker like this....

Its just you both are hurting your factions by claiming and by that your hurting town. Whats done is done. noting both claims for now.

~Elsa