Mass Effect Mafia - [Game Over]

[Elsa and Anna]

uh, no. Other Asari can check beeboy to find out if he's really an Asari. And they SHOULD.

Asari's receive friend/foe results and we won't ever know if beeboy is really an Assori or not like forever unless there is another kind of investigation around.

~Elsa

[Elsa and Anna]

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[Varsoon]

@Elsa & Anna: No--the factional cops only tell you if someone is of YOUR OWN faction or NOT. It doesn't tell you 'ally' or 'enemy'. An Asari-Cop would learn 'Asari' or 'Not Asari'. Read the fucking setup. Furthermore, I used the word 'Fakeclaiming' when talking about Beeboy--I am not fake-claiming. I do not know if Beeboy is or not, but if he is, then it is very likely that he has some sort of role that returns 'Asari' to Asari-Cops.

[Elsa and Anna]

while I can understand what are you saying , My main problem with beeboy specially is her "Geth" call outs while she is insisting she don't want to kill one early.

~Elsa

E&A I am only not pressuring you because I was hoping to clear you tonight. I also have reason to believe if you are scum you are a godfather because I have trouble seeing you play so aggressively without a back up plan. I also know for a fact due to the way you started pushing Varsoon that you aren't a Asari/Turian.

Following that logic I can confirm or deny all of my suspicions around your slot night 1. I have plans for you and I do think you are scum I just have more then one way to figure out your alignment and simply lynching you isn't the best method when I can always lynch you tomorrow if I am right or I keep an ally alive if I am wrong.

I don't understand what you are missing here.

what I don't understand is your uncontested claim , the fact your scumreading my slot without backing it up , you call us geth 'spescifically' without thinking or backing it up , you say you can check if we are 'geth' or not tonight which is impossible with your cop check result and you said "Gath are not your priority during early game"

from them I feel :
1 - your trying to set me up somehow
2 - Your krogan trying to side with Asari and Geth

~Elsa

[Varsoon]

I can literally prove you wrong right now.

MOD, in the SETUP NOTES in the first post, how does the "Individual Asari Cop that cannot be framed or redirected" function? Does it return 'Friendly' or 'Foe' results or does it only tell an Asari if the target is 'Asari' or 'Not Asari'?

Also, there's only one Asari Cop. I don't know where this idea that every Asari was an Asari-Cop came from.
Holy shit just read the fucking setup

[Elsa and Anna]

"Alignment Cops Return "Friend" or "Foe" unless otherwise stated in the role PM. Friend means that the player can win with their target. Foe means they cannot. Framed players return Foe."

I'm confused.

aren't Turian , asari cops a kind of alignment cop ?

~Elsa

[Varsoon]

I think Elsa & Anna are interpreting the Turian and Asari Cops as alignment cops, which would return "Friend" or "Foe" unless otherwise stated in the role PM.

However, I'm almost positive the Turian and Asari Cops search only to see if a player is Turian or Asari.

[Varsoon]

The mod will clear it up when they get a chance, I hope.

[Nahdia]

Yeah. The Asari Cop will be able to find out if beeboy is legit, and again, they should do so. But that in mind I really doubt beeboy WOULD fakeclaim a race like that unless he didn't understand the mechanics :\

also i actually thought all the Asari and Turians had that race-cop thing. Like, it's a RACIAL ability... so don't they all have it?

i could be wrong.

[Elsa and Anna]

I never though there are more than one asari cop.

If an asari cop check her and recieve a friend she won't push her at all. If she is krogan , other Asari don't want her death.

~Elsa

[Nahdia]

Elsa, you have it all wrong. It's NOT an alignment cop. It's a race cop which finds fellow Asari.

[Nahdia]

An Asari Cop that checks a Krogan should get "Not Asari"... I think. Pretty sure.

[beeboy]

what I don't understand is your uncontested claim , the fact your scumreading my slot without backing it up , you call us Geth 'spescifically' without thinking or backing it up , you say you can check if we are 'geth' or not tonight which is impossible with your cop check result and you said "Gath are not your priority during early game"

My claim is uncontested because it is confirmable.

I am scum reading you for pushing a player that claimed a confirmable role.
I am scum reading you for scum reading someone who claimed to be your ally on page 1 because claiming to win with town is far from a problem in this problem.
I am scum reading you for explicitly going against both the Asari and Turian by trying to get them to all claim.
I am scum reading you for calling every player who thinks you are scum scum.
I swear I made all these statements clear.

I said you are a Geth specifically because no Human, Krogan, Asari, Turian or Salarian would so put such little thought into pushing a potential ally with a confirmable role like what you are doing right now.

[beeboy]

MOD, in the SETUP NOTES in the first post, how does the "Individual Asari Cop that cannot be framed or redirected" function? Does it return 'Friendly' or 'Foe' results or does it only tell an Asari if the target is 'Asari' or 'Not Asari'?

I think Varsoon is scum claiming he should just be able to read his role pm.

[beeboy]

My role pm says each night I can check a player to see if they are aligned with the Asari.
His role pm should say the same thing with the word Turian.
Varsoon should have literally 0 confusion here.

[Nahdia]

MOD, in the SETUP NOTES in the first post, how does the "Individual Asari Cop that cannot be framed or redirected" function? Does it return 'Friendly' or 'Foe' results or does it only tell an Asari if the target is 'Asari' or 'Not Asari'?

I think Varsoon is scum claiming he should just be able to read his role pm.

You realize his claim is verifiable in the EXACT same way yours is?

[beeboy]

Not aligned with.
It literally says to see if they are Asari.

[Varsoon]

@Nahdia: No, they're just guaranteed that, among their race, there is one Same-race Cop. At least, that's what the setup notes say.

@Elsa & Anna: The guaranteed Asari cop in the setup checks to see if a player is an Asari or not--they are not an alignment cop. The mod will come in and confirm that soon enough.

@Beeboy: We need that shit spelled out by the mod if it's supposed to be public info, otherwise people who don't have reading comprehension will make shit pushes and ruin the game over it.

[Varsoon]

Beeboy, damn it, don't claim to be your faction's cop, there's only one, you're putting a target on yourself.

[beeboy]

Beeboy, damn it, don't claim to be your faction's cop, there's only one, you're putting a target on yourself.

Varsoon I asked the mod literally every single Asari has that cop ability.
It is a racial ability we all have.
Sorry you aren't special :C

[Nahdia]

@mod Do all Asari/Turians have the race-cop ability, or does only one of them have it?

[beeboy]

@Beeboy: We need that shit spelled out by the mod if it's supposed to be public info, otherwise people who don't have reading comprehension will make shit pushes and ruin the game over it.

Fair sorry about saying you scum claimed I didn't see that is what you where trying to do.

[Nosferatu]

Beeboy, damn it, don't claim to be your faction's cop, there's only one, you're putting a target on yourself.

why do you care, your factions are not allied?

[Klingoncelt]

dayvig: Kuroi

Do town typically have dayvigs?

No, it's very very rare - never, actually, unless it's a total bastard game.

Yet there's always someone who whips that out nearly every large game.

[Varsoon]

Or, unless I'm literally stupid...

MOD: Does the word 'Individual' in the Setup Notes for Asari and Turian mean that, among these factions, an Individual player is guaranteed to be a cop for the faction, or does it mean that EVERY player in the faction can target an Individual as a part of their Asari/Turian Cop ability?

Or, basically, what Nahdia just asked