Open 636 - Nightless Vengeful Mayhem - Game Over

[Severa]

I'm going to stay silent until I either get daykilled, the daykill is used on someone besides me, or I get lynched so I can venge.

[Severa]

I'm going to stay silent until I either get daykilled, the daykill is used on someone besides me, or I get lynched so I can venge.

I mean, this doesn't seem like an explicitly scummy thing to do, but it's still rather unhelpful.
And the worst part is, if we lynch you because of your unhelpfulness, and you aren't scum, you are guaranteed to use your vengekill, and possibly get another town killed.

Severa, why are you doing this?

I'm more than content with being lynched and given a vengekill.

VOTE: Severa

[Severa]

If I start scumhunting I will be daykilled instantly.

People will ignore whatever my reads were at the time because 'WIFOM right scum would never kill a threat to us!'

So it's better if I stall until scum are out of daykills or get myself lynched so I can take matters into my own hands.

[Severa]

If I answer that question it informs mafia as to whether I'm worth dayvigging.

I suspect if I keep quiet maf will not use a dayvig on me.

[Severa]

The kind of lobby where you'd be a viable dayvig target is one that I have nightmares about playing in.

[Severa]

I'm confident in my abilities as befits the results of those abilities.
Am I arrogant for saying that I'm a better scumhunter than others when any sort of analysis of my play will find it objectively true?

[Severa]

I'll start posting when both scum daykills are gone then.

[Severa]

Postie, do you have some games to link me so I can see your meta?

[Severa]

No reason. Wasn't an 'I'm FoSing you!' thing.

Carry on with your game.

[Severa]

I mean there was a reason but I'll explain it at such point as I elect to begin scumhunting directly.

[Severa]

Hi, yay, bye.

[Severa]

pdodge.

[Severa]

prod dodge.

annie.

[Severa]

Postie will never blow the second dayvig while I'm alive.

VOTE: Postie

She's scum.

[Severa]

I give up on trying to survive this but Postie is scum.

[Severa]

You just are.

[Severa]

I'm not gonna play 20 questions.

Just go ahead and dayvig me.

[Severa]

In fact yall do me a huge favour.

VOTE: Severa

Powerlynch me before the dayvig goes through so I can kill scum.

[Severa]

VOTE: Postie

I claim 100% accurate meta read.

Either lynch her or lynch me.

If I get dayvigged and you don't lynch her I'm going to rightfully call you all idiots in postgame.

[Severa]

Blue_Yoshi is my second pick for scum for the record.

[Severa]

I'd put you as the third scum presently engaged in bussing her.

I'm not hugely invested in any reads beyond Postie though.

[Severa]

Dayvig me and hope my read goes away.

[Severa]

I did my homework after Plot's game.

[Severa]

I'm genuinely surprised I haven't been dayvigged already.

[Severa]

I see no purpose in engaging with you.

If you are in fact town then I will probably throw up again.

[Severa]

We're not without one of us getting lynched.

[Severa]

Of course I'm going to be dayvigged pretty promptly so.

[Severa]

Anyway, someone's going to make the argument that 'Well, scum could easily just dayvig Severa anyway to get the free Postie lynch!'

This is true. But Postie's still scum for reasons regardless of my getting dayvigged.

[Severa]

I'd have liked to have stayed quieter for a lot longerb ut

1) this town isn't going to get anywhere without me.
2) there's no one in this game that really justifies a dayvig being blown
3) Postie's never going to use the second dayvig while I'm alive.

[Severa]

But Postie's still scum for reasons regardless of my getting dayvigged.

Then please can you go into those reasons?

Why, Postie?

why.

[Severa]

I have a question.

Why do people say Nightless games are good because no night kills when this setup I can't even live long enough to be part of one lynch?

[Severa]

It's mostly the fact that you've got a scum role PM.

[Severa]

She's just a normal scum I think by the lack of a daykill on me thus far.

[Severa]

I think that daykill scum is offline.

Probably Duppin or Blue Yoshi.

[Severa]

It's tentatively possible that she might think she can sway my mind or at the very least that it'd be too damning to daykill me right away.

[Severa]

Why would I fake a scumread of this calibre in a game where I can be daykilled right in the middle if I thought you were town?

Come now.

[Severa]

I'm not explaining it!

I had suspected for a while the general contents of your spreadsheet on me.

I'm not making it any easier for you to figure out how I'm reading you.

[Severa]

No

Why would I fake a scumread of this calibre in a game where I can be daykilled right in the middle if I thought you were town?

Come now.

^ I don't get what you mean

here

.

Why would I claim a massive scumread on you if scum could daykill me and likely get you lynched off of it if I wasn't 100% sure you were scum?

[Severa]

Whoever scum is already have a daykill earmarked for me unless two people majorly step up their game.

Why wouldn't they just use it right after I call a townie scum?

[Severa]

Just vote her please, thanks.

[Severa]

Well, OK. If you're town you can venge him! easy.

[Severa]

If Postie has not gotten paranoid of me based on that post I'm not posting in this game besides prod dodging until either daykill or her lynch.

[Severa]

If Postie has not gotten paranoid of me based on that post I'm not posting in this game besides prod dodging until either daykill or her lynch.

^

[Severa]

Your scumread on Acryon is not at such a level that you would be above being paranoid of me pushing on you here.

Regardless of what associations you do or do not think exist.

[Severa]

People who have ideas about why town would scumread them are generally scum.

[Severa]

I am judging you on 3 separate metrics and there's still the absence of the fourth which is scum indicative.

All label you as scum.

I will say no more on the topic.

[Severa]

Actually fuck I miscounted.

I have a town result on you for the second metric I came up with.

I need some drawing board stage, brb.

[Severa]

It's a very minor town result though.

And there's a specific post that you made that may skew it.

[Severa]

Bring Postie down to null if I'm daykilled before I can parse this.

[Severa]

Actually fuck it if I'm dayvigged between now and then just lynch her.

[Severa]

I've come to the conclusion based on my result in the game where you were mafia (town) with Aristophanes that the metric that you scored town on is not alignment indicative.

I will leave it as you being scum.

[Severa]

You're just scum, sorry.

[Severa]

I don't want my death to be bogged down in reads besides you.

[Severa]

L-3, but yeah.

I'd like to see her lynched ASAP please <3

[Severa]

I swear that I never mentioned a spreadsheet in game.

Perhaps Postie said something in scumchat?

[Severa]

Just vote her then.

It's not like she needs to claim.

[Severa]

Umm.



Don't you <3 me without putting down a Postie vote.

[Severa]

Need clarification on

Duppin being so high
Bella being so low
Aristo being so high

Good with most of the rest.

[Severa]

Postie goes. no compromises.

[Severa]

VOTE: Postie

still scum.

I fully agree with Ranger on Blue Yoshi, not so sure that Bella is the third.

[Severa]

Am I actually at L-1 without anyone on my wagon having given a reason for being on it?
Scum have some fucking balls this game.

The emotion and frustration here coinciding with the dayvig being used is no coincidence I'm pretty sure.

[Severa]

What the fuck.

Severa, you've got some 'splaining to do.

VOTE: Severa

What in the actual fuck?

[Severa]

What the fuck.

Severa, you've got some 'splaining to do.

VOTE: Severa

What in the actual fuck?

Daykill: Ranger

rekt.

I am going to ignore any further contributions you make to this thread.

[Severa]

Am I actually at L-1 without anyone on my wagon having given a reason for being on it?
Scum have some fucking balls this game.

The emotion and frustration here coinciding with the dayvig being used is no coincidence I'm pretty sure.

To be fair this is just as bad as Aristo's theory.

Don't think it is.

I think it's really sweet of you not to daykill me, for the record.

[Severa]

A mix of the fact that she had shared good read outside of me, the fact that you thought you would be able to talk your way out of it, the fact that you think that doing it the way you did could divert the lynch, and the fact that you know I have a thing about being killed and don't want to upset me.

[Severa]

<3.

[Severa]

If I've learned anything from past games, it's to sheep TownRanger's reads after she dies.

VOTE: BlueYoshi

This should happen.

Would not be at all surprised if this is scum.

[Severa]

You.

Fucking stop. we're lynching Postie.

Scum would NOT have diverted attention from an L-1 by shooting.

[Severa]

Scum would NOT have diverted attention from an L-1 by shooting.

So then why am I scum for it? What?

BECAUSE YOU WERE ALWAYS SCUM.

IF YOU WEREN'T SCUM SCUM WOULD HAVE SHOT ME EONS AGO AND PINNED IT ON YOU.

[Severa]

You.

Fucking stop. we're lynching Postie.

Scum would NOT have diverted attention from an L-1 by shooting.

Does the bolded not imply she is town then?
You make no sense here.

How the fuck does it assume she's town.

IF POSTIE WAS TOWN SCUM WOULDN'T HAVE SHOT WHEN THEY DID.

GOODBYE. THE END.

[Severa]

oh my god I am going to fucking lose it rn.

how is Postie not getting voted anymore?

[Severa]

NM is obvtown.

[Severa]

I did say that at one point!

My mind has changed.

[Severa]

Zzzzzz 4 more votes on Postie

And 4 days to get them. And she'll be lynched anyway at this point as Plurality kicks in.
I don't see the worry.

YOU CAN'T SAY THIS WHEN YOU'RE NOT EVEN VOTING HER.

[Severa]

Fucks sake stop being bad.

Postie is scum.

NM if you actually know him is pretty fucking obvious town this game.

[Severa]

Aristophanes you carry this on and I will not bother to read you and will just lynch you.

[Severa]

So hammer

SS you're our man!

[Severa]

Postie is slippery AF.

For the love of Annie, please just hammer.

[Severa]

Last time you were scum you did this too.
I'm giving you the Ari treatment; keep this shit up I powerlynch you regardless of what you do in the future.

[Severa]

For the record: BlueYoshi has said pretty much fucking nothing about his read on Postie.

[Severa]

quick thoughts before I go to bed (been a long day)
stop giving a shit about severa, nothing's going to change in that regard and they aren't going to do shit for half the game whether they're town or scum
N_M is seriously just trying to get a word in wherever possible, even though it's rarely relevant
pistachi0n has a low post count which could be wifom in regards to alignment, and few substantive posts, leaning scum at least until I see more
Postie seems consistently misinformed, meaning they probably either aren't familiar with the setup or just the game (which could be town or complex wifom, haven't decided)
aristo's high post count is unimpressive, but I can't really read them yet
I'm apparently confusing aristo and heur in my reasoning because to me they're both playing very filler-y, so probably same read
seriously fuck severa

not getting to anything else tonight, too tired
sorry for all the fence sitting and lack of proofreading.

pdodge again
I thought something Severa said didn't sit well with me but reading back I didn't see it again.
Could've just been the scumread on me

Postie lynch isn't terrible cause it probably gives the most info but there are other people who would be better scumtargets for the noose. Still going back to what I said about lynching town for a vengekill isn't better than lynching scum.

All the reaction and overreaction surrounding Postie and their wagon, depending on how they flip you can determine interactions in their wagon, and if it's town, their vengekill could potentially hit scum

It's really just how any lynch would go, but it just feels like Postie's wagon has the most attention and the biggest opinions on.

In fact your vote was at 3 since 1-9 where you were still the only vote on Postie so that's actually a really terrible excuse

So you

are

the 2 shot day goon?

This post. It's not even trying.
Like Severa I understand your frustration with something not happening that should but GODDAMN N_M's play is just getting more and more atrocious.
And he's been able to get away with it all because of all the diverted focus all day, first Severa and then Postie.

But honestly how can you even look at N_M's posts, or are you even?

Fucks sake stop being bad.

Postie is scum.

NM if you actually know him is pretty fucking obvious town this game.

Please leave your 2015 reads in 2015, we're in 2016.

If the only capacity you have to read people is meta then do not be so hostile when people choose not to follow you.

Aristophanes you carry this on and I will not bother to read you and will just lynch you.

Trying to bully the game into submission probably won't work, either. Are you expecting to be allowed to shepherd the town just cause you did something unhelpful at the beginning of the game that was interpreted by town as some?

These are all the mentions of Postie in your iso.
Care to explain which point you decided that she was such a townread that you were going to be an insufferable fuck trying to keep her alive?

[Severa]

Hell, that 2015 reads line is HORRIBLE.
It feels like Postie said something about the meta read in scumchat and so he's bringing it up in here.
Where did I say that my read on her was based on a 2015 read?

[Severa]

And don't be hostile? fuck no.
you're working your ass off to derail my lynch and you're the biggest scumfuck in this game, even over Postie.
(but Postie's going to worm her way out if we don't lynch her now so she goes first.)
so like, I'm going to be pretty hostile to your scum ass being all over this hard as fuck defense of scum.
And hey, if you're town and we lynch you? good riddance. you're not helping town, you're hurting it.

[Severa]

sooner someone hammers this the better.
earn tons of instant love from RC by hammering this scumlord. I'll even throw another scumlord in tomorrow absolutely free.
Just pay separate shipping and handling.

[Severa]

yeah I'll get right on that.

[Severa]

I'd like to lynch {BlueYoshi, Pistachi0n, Aristophanes} for defending Postie without giving any sort of fucking reasons before we focus on hitting scum.

Not that none of them may be scum themselves, but I'd like to see that pool gone.

VOTE: BlueYoshi

Don't care if you're town, you go.

[Severa]

I'll start with

VOTE: Aristophanes

actually, because it's pretty clear that he was deliberately avoiding responsibility for the defends while simultaneously defending.

[Severa]

Don't consider this a policy lynch btw.

Consider this a scum lynch that has a policy underpinning.

[Severa]

Severa, I doubt you'll believe me, but I wanted to see who I could get to jump ship or support a wagon against Postie, but wanted her as the lynch.
I voted NM to get a shift, in which we could find a second scum, maybe a third. It didn't work as no one switched with me, not even Postie (which was odd), but I had hoped it might.

You're getting lynched today.
don't do that ever again.

[Severa]

Super defending your partners because people won't believe you're together is a thing though.
Especially if you thought you might actually get the vote changed, which seems pretty reasonable given that certain people were clamouring for a change of lynch.
Regardless

VOTE: BlueYoshi

This goes first. I'm not reading any more of his crap.

[Severa]

Blue Yoshi entry is terrible, offers no explanation for a Severa bus

Makes very few substantial posts all game and yet this is the first thing that resembles a real post. And it's defensive for another person.

I'm probably reaching far more than I should be but Severa being scum makes a lot of sense in the scope of the game.

I'm having trouble parsing my thoughts right now but they essentially go as follows.
Severa wanted to build towncred as soon as possible so they went with the gambit they did at the beginning, through faking concern on the vengekill
Didn't speak at all until after TheDominator37 was replaced, so as to formulate a plan with the other mafia
After entering the game and casting blame on Postie who was sure they were scum, which they did turn out to be, and trying to ride this train so adamantly in order to gain more towncred
And now Severa can strongarm the town to do anything through overconfidence in their own perception of how much people read them as town

If Severa entered the game, starting to pin relentless blame on a mafia member and then was not shot, whereas Ranger came into the game with a similar level of adamancy except towards a different person (me) and then was shot, there's a bit of screwiness here.

There's also a point about avoiding a random and possibly unforeseen d1 vengekill in order to control the game more

If this isn't logical at all then I will try to explain myself better after all my tiredbrain is gone and I wake up tomorrow.

This is not a good post and this is not someone I'm willing to leave alive.
regardless of alignment.

this is nightless, priority is getting rid of crappy anti-town people so they don't have a majority later in the game.
Blueyoshi has a strong chance of being scum and fits squarley into the above category.

[Severa]

I'm not going to play 'OMG SEVERA BUSSED THEIR PARTNER' with someone who spent the entire fucking day yesterday trying to derail a scum lynch.
They can sit down and shut up or they can be lynched.
Except that they're also a strong contender for scum: so sitting down and shutting up isn't really an option so we just gotta lynch them.

Easy!

[Severa]

At this point I honestly think Yoshi is scum but I'd still rather not have them alive.

[Severa]

Regardless of alignment the faster they are dead the better.

[Severa]

I'll reread this at some point.
Other higher priorities atm.

[Severa]

It's sad that from this point on, scum only needs to be in the top 3 towniest players (top 1/3) to win even after we've played perfectly.

[Severa]

Severa, are you suggesting we go for one of the townier player?

If Severa ends up being scum, then scum probably win.

We could lynch sevra

If we get two myslynches in a row, then that might be a good time to lynch severa

VOTE: Heuristacally_Alone

We're lynching him or Bellaphant today.

[Severa]

Yay Titus <3

[Severa]

I haven't read.

We got the second goon and I was sorta like ehh top priority is avoiding the daykill, not rushing the scum lynch.

I promise that tomorrow or tonight I'll handle this game!

[Severa]

Sorry for being scum in a few of our previous games. I legitimately felt awful trying to engage with you in those games: I feel like it showed in hindsight.
I am town here, I think your slot is town, let's get a nice teamwork thing going and get us a nice perfect win! yush!

[Severa]

okay. wish I wasn't too drunk to play the game.

more game discussion inc when sober!

[Severa]

Titus, reads when you can please

[Severa]

Why is Bella so high?

[Severa]

Okay, I appreciate that.

I'd like to be more behind the scenes for a little while so I'd appreciate it if you would lead discussion/scumhunting.

[Severa]

Titus, I feel really bad for you for having replaced into that slot under these conditions but.

VOTE: Titus

You're scum, sorry. If you want to claim otherwise, I'm ready to chat.

[Severa]

Do me a favour. Sheep me and wagon Titus fairly hard.

Don't hammer her until I am fully decided on it though.

If I get dayvigged, just go ahead and lynch her.

[Severa]

You're hilariously awkward when you try to interact with me when you're scum

[Severa]

Nope!

You interact with me just fine when you're town.

It's when you're scum that we get little gems like your previous post or the 'If you were scum in this situation you would do X Y Z' from Pisskop's game.

[Severa]

I mean, if you want to play this out and pretend to be town, go ahead and walk me through your top scumreads and townreads.
I'm not utterly beyond reconsidering your slot and I've come around on you being town before*, but you are absolutely my strongest scumspect as of now by a large margin.

*Badass Females, Plotinus (Keep in mind we thought it was multiball and my read on you that entire game was genuine, which was likely part of why you townread me), etc.

[Severa]

I don't like the choice of the word pretending in the last post. What I mean is that if you're town I'm going to need you to do a little showing it. I believe I can sort you

[Severa]

Titus posted elsewhere today.

Why do I get the impression that she dayvigged me and is hiding till it goes through?

[Severa]

I'm 2/3

pls just sheep me.

[Severa]

Titus was on right before this post and made several posts.

She did not touch this game.

I have never heard of Town!Titus being reluctant to engage with me like she is in this game.

[Severa]

Aristophanes either you vote TItus now or I'm going to lynch you first.

The game where MoI tried to fuck over town for 2 days after we had the game solved has taught me not to leave people alive with poor reads that aren't working with the town.

[Severa]

Like, there isn't much to say. I am an awkward person in general. RC ceding control was wierd and made no sense. I was confused. RC perceived that as awkward.

Tbh, I think RC is throwing me out as bait. I really don't get it but there are like five mislynches here. So I am just going to place RC on ignore unless he wants to talk about reads.

I have 5 mislynches indeed.

If you're not going to engage the shit out of me, you're going to be the first of them regardless of your alignment.

For the record, the ONLY time Titus has tried to shut down communication between us was when I was deathtunneling her and refusing to even discuss outside stuff. This on the other hand is me trying to poke and prod her into helping me improve my read on her and she's trying to close communication.

I will genuinely be beyond shocked if this is town: while this isn't confscum like I said Postie was, it's a stronger scumread than BlueYoshi.

[Severa]

No, it's not, and I explicitly said it isn't!

This is a very strong suspicion though, and my very strong suspicions are most likely more accurate than the majority of peoples' bet your life sitches!

[Severa]

I have a substantial case beyond what I have presented.

I am phone posting so no case yet. Regardless, you owe me this lynch especially if I get dayvigged before it goes through.

[Severa]

Which is another way of saying to put your reads aside and vote with me.

[Severa]

Because I'm --.

No, actually because contrary to popular belief I read Titus very well.
And because I handed you Yoshi and Postie.

[Severa]

I'll make a case today. dw.

[Severa]

I like Titus as well!

That doesn't mean I'm not going to lynch her.

[Severa]

Gonna do a mass reread here as well.

[Severa]

Titus, please engage me or something?

Share your reads?

[Severa]

I can't engage with this.

[Severa]

Can you ISO Bella, Heuristically_Alone, and me, and give detailed reads on the 3 of us?

I asked about Bella before and you gave me a one line answer.

[Severa]

No deadlines. No rush!

You haven't done any VCA either.

[Severa]

Unfortunately as things are your play has pinged me a great deal, asking to die and the general resignation feels incredibly Scum!Titus, and in hindsight Acryon is definitely the most likely slot to be scum in this game.

Postie didn't really react to most of the votes on her but she hair trigger flipped her british shit onto him when he voted. In fact she did so even before he voted, and it feels to me like Postie most likely asked Acryon to bus her in scum daychat and as a result was hypersensitive to the matter. Postie would've known she was going down by that point as well and she has the same mentality as I do towards scum play where she goes for the really outlier plays instead of doing the 'traditional' putting scumbuddies as null-town or null-scum. I would not put it at all past her to have had one scumbuddy hard defend her and the other hard bus her, and Acryon's slot makes the most sense for a bus just in terms of his push on her feeling really blah, her absurd overreaction, the fact that I wouldn't be surprised if she put one scumbuddy as her top town and one as her top scum, and that Acryon just has a lot of interactions with both Postie and BlueYoshi. I even feel like he has too many with both of them and they feel really busyworky like Postie was on high alert because scared of me and the scumteam kept being all 'DISTANCE DISTANCE DISTANCE INTERACTIONS INTERACTIONS INTERACTIONS even though they didn't really have much to say to each other. The final nail in the metaphorical coffin for your slot was that in the hyper early game your slot was so blase towards sorting both of them even though they were some of his top scumreads: like he asked them questions but didn't really do much with the answers and like I said, felt very busywork and not like genuine scumhunting.

So I'm not like beyond 100% that you're scum but I don't see anyone else as nearly as likely to be scum as you at this point.

[Severa]

I am trying to get you to engage me.

You are getting defensive and hiding behind baggage.

Remember what the alignment was of the last person to try to pull this on the other?

[Severa]

No, it was Scum!Me.

Your portrayal of yourself as a delicate little wallflower doesn't mesh.

[Severa]

And you're not sufficiently excited to get another chance to work with obv!Town me to make an effort here?

At the very least schedule some vodka drinking and see if I can't sort Drunk!Titus.

[Severa]

And for the record, I was much excited when you replaced in because I still thought your slot was town. I didn't end up scumreading you until I was weirded out by how you opened the day. I am sad.

[Severa]

You would have never unilaterally given up control to me as town as you know that confuses the shit out of me and I hate being kissed ass on. If you did, that's a mistake and hampers the fuck out of me as I love dissent.

Except that I have? Literally in the last game where we were both town and I followed you onto FA and we won?
And this is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT SITUATION where I am not unilaterally ceding control. This is Town!me trying not to get a daybullet in my brain and so evolving my reads more quietly.

You were obv!Town RC until you made it clear you weren't just sticking out this scumread as bait to see who jumped on. I generally don't get excited about town games where there's more emphasis putting on defending myself than people actually listening to my reads. It makes the emphasis more on peacocking than a search for the truth. Scum!Titus lives for that shit. Town!Titus hates it.

None of your reads stand out this game.
You've claimed a scumread on HA but the reasoning given is very reactionary and minimal. I need more from you.

[Severa]

I never said I'd unilaterally sheep you. I said I wanted to keep my head down and wanted to see what you'd do since I was already starting to wonder about you at this point.

I really don't feel like I'm cutting you off at the knees at any opportunities but let's slow down.

What's your read on me, HA, Bellaphant? I'm ready to answer any questions that you feel need answered.

[Severa]

I've never heard of you being phobic of someone sheeping your reads, regardless of whether or not I believe that that's what you thought I was planning on doing.

I think it should be fairly clear that I'm legitimately trying to sort you. Maybe I'm wrong!

[Severa]

I'm the best!

[Severa]

Spoiler: This happened

Haven't got time for delusions

VOTE: Severa

Haven't got time for delusions

VOTE: Severa

We have 13 days. Surely a few can be wasted on delusions.

UNVOTE:

ehh, that seems super dumb though. Ari, why would you indulge that?

Also, where is, like...over half of this playerlist?

I feel like that's an awfully arrogant play.

Either town or mafia, Severa is a dangerous player to have in the game.

Whether it be the attitude of doesn't want to participate or just arrogant of scum hunting abilities

Severa is very blatantly playing special snowflake with the vengeful mechanic. If you ignore them they'll crave attention and start posting right

That is how unproductive I think giving Severa attention is right now

I think I understand the town motivation behind what Severa's doing, but the problem I'm having with it is that it's a decent play for scum too; waiting until both daykills have been used means no one will question why Severa is still alive.

I'm more than content with being lynched and given a vengekill.

VOTE: Severa

I'm not sure I like the timing of the self-vote here because I doubt Severa would actually be okay with being lynched

right now

, even if they would later, so it feels more like it's for show.

This is super fencesitty and shallow, Severa is obv arrogant newb town, POstie knows this

This is super fencesitty and shallow, Severa is obv arrogant newb town, POstie knows this

Severa doesn't read like newb town at all. When are newb town that arrogant?

Yeah, it's not that I think Postie is obvtown, but I have no reason to believe Severa "just trust me lol"

I'm going to switch to Not Mafia, playing with Severaks really annoying but now that she's talked more I don't think scum would do this kind of gambit. NM is just spamming and not explaining any of his reads, I think he's being scummy, I played a game with him where he was scum before (it was a year ago, granted, people change)

VOTE: Not_Mafia

Now that we actually have content I'd be content lynching Severa for that early game bs.

What the fuck.

Severa, you've got some 'splaining to do.

VOTE: Severa

Scum would NOT have diverted attention from an L-1 by shooting.

So then why am I scum for it? What?

BECAUSE YOU WERE ALWAYS SCUM.

IF YOU WEREN'T SCUM SCUM WOULD HAVE SHOT ME EONS AGO AND PINNED IT ON YOU.

You reeeeeally need to stop assuming it's all about you.
Maybe they're saving the shot for later, at a sweeter moment.
Maybe they aren't going to shoot you at all.
Maybe you're scum.

We don't know, but all of this assuming you deserve to be shot isn't progressing anything.

You.

Fucking stop. we're lynching Postie.

Scum would NOT have diverted attention from an L-1 by shooting.

Does the bolded not imply she is town then?
You make no sense here.

HI I'M SEVERA LYNCH POSTIE BECAUSE I SAID SO WAH WAH WAH I'M GOING TO THROW A HUGE TANTRUM BECAUSE I'M NOT GETTING MY WAY FAST ENOUGH

And people are listening to her (him???)

NM hasn't been putting any effort in at all, hasn't given reasons for scumreading Postie (neither has Severa, their reasons are "because I said so," "trust me," and "that daykill." It's definitely possible that scum shot then to throw you off...if that's your only concrete reason for scumreading Postie, it's a bad one.) Anyway, when NM was asked for reasoning for voting Postie, he just copy/pasted a post Postie made without saying why it was scummy or anything. Since then, the extent of his case has been "kill Postie" and "get lynched."

Heuristically Alone's first indication of a scumread on Postie was

I've just been having bad feelings about Postie, similar to those Postie has for me, but not in an omgus sense.

He was voting Duppin at that point, but had actual reasons for it. All posts about Postie between that and his vote on Postie were bad feeling/negative vibes kind of thing. In 493 he asked "did Postie just claim scum" after citing an interaction between Postie and Severa, and proceeded to vote Postie. It looked like he had been looking for a good reason to vote Postie and the wagon was picking up.

Acryon was suspicious of Postie for a while and voted when the wagon picked up, I don't actually have a problem with his vote.

VOTE: postie

sheeping acron, could do with today being over.

Bellaphant admitted to sheeping, although we are pretty close to deadline, that's true.

I won't be voting Postie unless there's less than 24 hours until deadline and Postie's still the top vote.

Well said.

Wanna bring NM to the same vote level as yourself?
VOTE: NM

Postie's flipping by plurality no matter what you do, may as well accelerate the process

we've got 2 days, people still aren't voting, there have to be town on Postie's wagon that will come to their senses and realize the main driving force is Severa being whiny.

I don't think she'd go as far as she did to whiteknight a lynch that's probably going to go through.

It's not that I think you're obvtown so much that I think Severa's adamancy is giving scum a lazy reason to vote you. Severa's unwilling to engage and discuss things with anyone, I don't want to reward that, and it's annoying me. So I'm not pushing against your lynch because I think you're town so much as I think the votes on you are obvscum.

If you get Dayvigged Titus is going down so fast, I promise!
But I don't see reason to atm.

I like this Titus still.
Sorry Sev.

I don't really buy Titus as scum.

Aristophanes either you vote TItus now or I'm going to lynch you first.

The game where MoI tried to fuck over town for 2 days after we had the game solved has taught me not to leave people alive with poor reads that aren't working with the town.

Meh,
Bring it on then I guess.

Why do I owe you this lynch?

We were lynching yoshi whatever, no one died and made you king. Can we lynch snarky today? And then I'll mindlessly sheep you of there is a tomorrow

You can't owe someone a lynch.

This Titus wagon is dumb.

*Sigh*
She could have been so helpful.

If she flips scum, I will be so surprised.
There were far batter lynches to be had, and far likelier scum flips among them.