Open 633: Near Vanilla-GAME OVER

[Killthestory]

moi's an idiot is all kek.

also my playstyle is diff so you have to treat me special and shit

[kelbris]

VC 4.04

Titus (0): none
Ranger (1): Killthestory
MagnaofIllusion (0): none
Imperium (0): none
Killthestory (0): none
Nosferatu (0): none
RachMarie (0): none
Ollie (0): none
No Lynch (1): Nosferatu
not voting: Ranger, MagnaofIllusion, Imperium, Ollie, Titus, RachMarie
With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.
day 4 has begun, it will end in (expired on 2016-06-04 18:00:00)

[Titus]

I am beginning to think I need to reread this game again.

[Nosferatu]

@ MoI

Do you have any other experience besides this game (obviously completed games), with Kill?

I was not kidding about having trouble reading trolls, I do better with logical folk who build cases n such.

I'm not MoI, but I've played with kill in 2 completed games and I've developed an idea of how he plays. People label kill as a shitposter, but that's not completely true. In the games I've played with him, he's an extremely hyper-aggressive scumhunter with a derisive attitude when talking to pretty much everyone. In my first game with him, and while I caught all of the scum, he did also drive lynches in my absence. In our other game, he took a different approach and relied on his reads and toned down is aggressive pushes for shitposts with occasional reads.

Now in this game he's not nearly as hyper-aggressive as he was in our first game and is similar to Mini 1774. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if he were scum this game since his saving grace in 1774 was his reads which were extremely on point. Before I was townreading him because I expected lowell to flip scum, but after that and the fact that kill has not been right at all and hasn't been pressuring for us to drive any lynch, I could really go either way on him.

[Killthestory]

yeah my reads have been kind of shit this game and i'm disappointed. i think it's because i'm putting less effort than one i was early game so my reads were more on point then since i actually took the time to iso and read the game in depth. i got lazy end game which is one of my major flaws.

i mean, i need motivation to play. sometimes, i just dont feel like playing at all. give me something to do and i think ill do it

[Nosferatu]

f i n d s c u m

[Killthestory]

titus and ranger

[Nosferatu]

who's the last???

[Killthestory]

not sure, ranger is p obvscum at this point, should have seen it earlier. gut says titus is scum along w/ him, ISOd and seemed alright.

ranger was hard defending MoI and MoI's been tunneling me all game, so I could see MoI scum, but gut says he's just idiot town.

[Nosferatu]

I mean I felt Virtue was scum, but the last time I played with Titus-scum, she took over the thread pretty quickly upon replacing in, which she hasn't done here, which has made me doubt the read I had on the slot.

[Nosferatu]

Ranger's hammer however with the sole purpose of self preservation was also extremely anti-town and I have no qualms over the desire to lynch that.

[Killthestory]

well thats definitely a hard one since gut tells me titus is town, but ranger is def scum so hes gotta be todays lynch

titus is very hard to read for me honestly.

[Nosferatu]

I'm finding it difficult to develop townreads at this point. Even ollie who seemed town is retrospectively kind of scummy. Whenever an argument is presented to him, the way that he diminishes its validity with deprecation gives me a real bad feeling. OW slot never gave me any feeling towards one alignment or the other and Rachmarie isn't helping. Imperium doesn't seem scummy but tbh I'm not actually reading her posts in depth because of the formatting. MoI is the only one who I could say is probably town.

[Killthestory]

if we doubt are solid reads we'll end up losing the game in itself. dealing with doubt will only lead to mislynches, we must deal with absolutes to understand how to best sort out this situation

[Nosferatu]

massive and xisi kills don't make sense smh

VCA is unreliable without a scumflip

NKA doesn't yield anything since I can't make sense of two of them

Everyone is hard to read

this game is fucking with me

[Ranger]

massive and xisi kills don't make sense smh

There's always a reason. PR-hunting, accurate reads, player being obvtown (less likely this game given our PRs), policy-kill on reputation, killing to preserve the status quo, killing someone unlikely to be protected (extremely likely this game given our PRs), often the player who provides the largest combination of these things.

It's just a matter of finding out which ones it is, and from that, deducing who the scum would be.

[Nosferatu]

Way to not help in that process whatsoever

[MagnaofIllusion]

titus and ranger

well thats definitely a hard one since gut tells me titus is town, but ranger is def scum so hes gotta be todays lynch

titus is very hard to read for me honestly.

For like the 50th time scum distancing themselves from their own reads.

Obv obv obv

massive and xisi kills don't make sense smh

VCA is unreliable without a scumflip

NKA doesn't yield anything since I can't make sense of two of them

Everyone is hard to read

this game is fucking with me

So you just can’t even make reads on Day 4 after all that has gone on? Are you really this bad at being Town or are you scum who has slid under the radar all game?

[Nosferatu]

titus and ranger

well thats definitely a hard one since gut tells me titus is town, but ranger is def scum so hes gotta be todays lynch

titus is very hard to read for me honestly.

For like the 50th time scum distancing themselves from their own reads.

Obv obv obv

massive and xisi kills don't make sense smh

VCA is unreliable without a scumflip

NKA doesn't yield anything since I can't make sense of two of them

Everyone is hard to read

this game is fucking with me

So you just can’t even make reads on Day 4 after all that has gone on? Are you really this bad at being Town or are you scum who has slid under the radar all game?

>ignores series of posts on why I'm not confident in my reads at this point
>proceeds to cherry pick a post and accuse me of being scum based on it
return to sender fam how fucking bad are you?

[MagnaofIllusion]

>ignores series of posts on why I'm not confident in my reads at this point
>proceeds to cherry pick a post and accuse me of being scum based on it
return to sender fam how fucking bad are you?

Nope nope nope. Sorry, do not pass go do not collect $200.

You haven't had a read that you've pushed as scum all game. For three days you've slid by under the radar without doing so. And you are trying to do so again today.

I don't give a fuck about your AtE posts about "This game is HARD". Either you are too incompetent to actually make a scum read BY DAY 4 or you are scum and are working your angle to a tee. There's enough other scummy players in the game I can't tell which for certain

But the speed at which you replied to this with some pointless "You can't read you suck" reads to me that you are more likely to be the later who is monitoring the thread but specifically not contributing.

[Killthestory]

lol moi says that but he deathtunnels me all game and no ones had a correct scumread that they got lynched as of yet

[Nosferatu]

>ignores series of posts on why I'm not confident in my reads at this point
>proceeds to cherry pick a post and accuse me of being scum based on it
return to sender fam how fucking bad are you?

Nope nope nope. Sorry, do not pass go do not collect $200.

You haven't had a read that you've pushed as scum all game. For three days you've slid by under the radar without doing so. And you are trying to do so again today.

I don't give a fuck about your AtE posts about "This game is HARD". Either you are too incompetent to actually make a scum read BY DAY 4 or you are scum and are working your angle to a tee. There's enough other scummy players in the game I can't tell which for certain

But the speed at which you replied to this with some pointless "You can't read you suck" reads to me that you are more likely to be the later who is monitoring the thread but specifically not contributing.

I fucking scumread everyone except for you and Imperium

at this point I'm just trying to figure out which 2 I'm scum reading incorrectly. By no lynching today, I'm hoping that by one of you fuckers dying, my job will be that much easier. By no means do I not have a scum read and if you think I've skirted past the entire game without having any opinions you are dead fucking wrong.

[Titus]

VOTE: Ranger

This day is just confusing the shit out of me, ruining my reads. I want a night phase to reread to see if I can make sense of this.

[MagnaofIllusion]

I fucking scumread everyone except for you and Imperium

at this point I'm just trying to figure out which 2 I'm scum reading incorrectly.

By no lynching today, I'm hoping that by one of you fuckers dying, my job will be that much easier

. By no means do I not have a scum read and if you think I've skirted past the entire game without having any opinions you are dead fucking wrong.

The bolded makes exactly zero sense - you think one of your many scum reads would die over the players you are Town reading?

Point to me where you've made a scum read and pushed it this game. I'd love to see that post from your perspective.

[Nosferatu]

I fucking scumread everyone except for you and Imperium

at this point I'm just trying to figure out which 2 I'm scum reading incorrectly.

By no lynching today, I'm hoping that by one of you fuckers dying, my job will be that much easier

. By no means do I not have a scum read and if you think I've skirted past the entire game without having any opinions you are dead fucking wrong.

The bolded makes exactly zero sense - you think one of your many scum reads would die over the players you are Town reading?

Point to me where you've made a scum read and pushed it this game. I'd love to see that post from your perspective.

If you or imperium dies, well I'm in the same position as before, but as you can see I include the keyword hope*.

*hope(verb): to desire with expectation of obtainment; to wish for a particular event that one considers possible;

Archaic

to have confidence or trust.

I pushed SS. I asked him questions about his reads and with that I decided he was scum, and so I kept my vote on him.

VOTE: Ranger

This day is just confusing the shit out of me, ruining my reads. I want a night phase to reread to see if I can make sense of this.

Why hasn't anyone commented on this? I'm sure a night phase isn't needed to re-read.