Micro 616 : To Love And To Be Loved! (Game Over!?)

[Frozen Angel]

Vote Count 1.7

Radiant Jeanne (2) : Suzune , Shiro
Maruchan (1) : Aristophanes
Masquerade (1) : Almost50
beeboy (1) : Fire Assassin
Fire Assassin (1) : beeboy
Shiro (1) : Radiant Jeanne

Not Voting (2) : Maruchan , Masquerade

With 9 players alive it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2016-06-12 14:30:00)

[Maruchan]

Let's get Suzune to L-1 before RVS is done boys!

Let's get Suzune to L-1 before RVS is done boys!

Okay! VOTE: Suzune

These are the two posts most concerning me.

It is later followed up by beeboy sheeping aristo with "you took the words from my mouth" on my wagon. I forgot about this earlier interaction. A little bit of cross-buddying going on here.

[Maruchan]

I'm lazy and the logic being used to defend suzune is so appalling that my will to post is sapped.

VOTE: Radiant Jeanne

[Maruchan]

VOTE: Shiro

Not dealing with this. them or me today.

Well I already expressed my you or suzune theory. now you want to force us into a you of shiro, just because of petty squabbles? That's immature as fuck, and definitely reiterates me vote on you.

Jeanne can do what she wants. I'm not posting in this game until we're at L-5 and everyone has left us the fuck alone.

and then you threaten your own inactivity, and unwillingness to participate in a game you CHOSE to play in, because of the petty squabble.

[Masquerade]

I've seen RC do that as town here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=65851
I don't feel like fighting RC on this because the chances of him giving in and talking anyway are very slim and I don't want to waste time. Has anyone seen RC do this as scum?

I'm starting to wonder if there's something wrong with my thoughts because I can't see why people would want to vote Fire, I kinda get why people want to vote Suzune but I don't agree, RC is being RC imo and those seem to be the strongest lynchoptions for almost everyone else. I'll have a quick reread tonight see if anything changes for me on second look, but I hardly think so.

Almost, what's the inconclusive stuff you have on Fire and Suzune?

[Frozen Angel]

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[Shiro]

No that isn't the issue with RC. RC would explain his reasons to get his lynch and vigorously push it.

Jeane is a factor as well who pretty much never tunnels with no reason and is the epitome of being open to alternative.

The way they went to Suzune without explaining much seems bleh and makes me think RC was trying to strong-arm a lynxh on his name alone which he has done as scum to my knowledge.

[Shiro]

I wanna listen to what jeane has to say about all this tbh so I don't mind much about RC going mia for a bit

[Almost50]

VOTE: Shiro

Not dealing with this. them or me today.

Jeanne can do what she wants. I'm not posting in this game until we're at L-5 and everyone has left us the fuck alone.

This is not good It is still NAI, but if RC isn't playing the town has lost 50% of our day powers.

[Almost50]

I'm lazy and the logic being used to defend suzune is so appalling that my will to post is sapped.

VOTE: Radiant Jeanne

Geez! You've just put them @L-2. I hope you all realize we're long out of the RSV phase, so dwell on arguments before you pile up on a single wagon.

My read on the RJ slot is still null, and I'm counting on Jeanne to give me some clues.

[beeboy]

I like RC for town :/
I told Aristo why I think this but if I publicly share what made me come to this conclusion my ability to develop my read will be jeopardized.

[Almost50]

Almost, what's the inconclusive stuff you have on Fire and Suzune?

The case on Suzune you mostly understand, and it's not compelling. There's also the bit of her trying to force the idea that if there are multiple redirectors one must be scum (or at least the probability is high one is scum) and I'm not seeing it like that at all.

Shiro simply voted beeboy and I didn't like that vote. beeboy is obv!town to me. End of. That also is inconclusive evidence, but that's all I've got for now. I just want to upgrade my vote from an RSV one to a serious one, albeit on weak sauce I'd have to admit.

[Aristophanes]

I like RC for town :/
I told Aristo why I think this but if I publicly share what made me come to this conclusion my ability to develop my read will be jeopardized.

This is true, and has legit reasoning behind it.

[Maruchan]

I've seen RC do that as town here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=65851
I don't feel like fighting RC on this because the chances of him giving in and talking anyway are very slim and I don't want to waste time. Has anyone seen RC do this as scum?

are you fucking kidding me? So because she's acted like a two year old as town before, her acting like a two year old is therefore accepted town behavior from her, and we should not hold her accountable for her own actions? No. You lynch her. You show that it is not an acceptable response to a shitty situation.

If she won't participate in the game, she should replace out, not hold her activity over our heads and say we best do what she wants.

fuck that

[Almost50]

First off, I believe RC to be a HE, Jeanne to be a SHE, and the hydra to be an IT!

are you fucking kidding me? So because she's acted like a two year old as town before, her acting like a two year old is therefore accepted town behavior from her, and we should not hold her accountable for her own actions? No.

This is what I'm trying to say. I know RC, and by that I mean I know he's well capable of appearing totally scummy when he's town and vise versa. There's always a motive to it too (although I'm not sure what that could be in a semi-open setup, but .. oh, well!)

You lynch her.

Bad move. RC is a VERY PRECIOUS asset to town if he is town. If he is scum though, he will probably not only escape the lynch, but will make you look bad enough the town will lynch you with no remorse.

If you're town, the best way to deal with RC is let him have his own way on D1 and THEN see what happens. Of the 9 players list I don't see anyone of more priority as a NK that RC if her is town. In other words, Town!RC would most definitely be dead by D2, so why not just give him his space to try and help the town on D1, and lynch him if he's still alive on D3 (yes, I did say D3 bc mafia may skip killing him on N1 if they know he's be lynched on D2, but if we get to D3 and he's alive AND hasn't caught scum yet then he most definitely is scum himself).

Note: Watch me put my foot in my mouth. Scum!RC is well known to bus relentlessly as well, so .. *Shrug*

OK, I'll be back when I actually know what I'm talking about. Sleep deprivation is one of my worst enemies.

[Radiant Jeanne]

Well, here is the angry head.

VOTE: Suzune

And from angry head's experience, there is no way two of the same roles could both be town, so Suzune must be scum.

- Maou Sadao

[beeboy]

This TvNull isn't amusing.

[Maruchan]

what he's doing isn't scummy, and isn't town, it's literally repulsive behavior that should not be played as any alignment, and I will be blacklisting him as a player for this.

the rest of your post is so repulsive that it makes me want to quit playing on mafiascum if it is now site meta to not lynch certain people, based on who they are, and not at all how they play in a specific game. that is horrible.

PS: How the fuck is refusing to post in the game "trying to help the town"? You want me to give him his space to try to help the town, BUT HE ISN'T TRYING TO HELP THE TOWN. he's literally throwing a temper tantrum saying "lynch this person I don't like or i quit participating in the game"


holy fuck. this game literally makes me want to never play mafia again right now. and this is literally the only recreational activity i participate in in my life.

[Almost50]

Well, here is the angry head.

VOTE: Suzune

And from angry head's experience, there is no way two of the same roles could both be town, so Suzune must be scum.

- Maou Sadao

Obviously you haven't been paying attention to anything I said. ISO me now, please.

[Masquerade]

I've seen RC do that as town here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=65851
I don't feel like fighting RC on this because the chances of him giving in and talking anyway are very slim and I don't want to waste time. Has anyone seen RC do this as scum?

are you fucking kidding me? So because she's acted like a two year old as town before, her acting like a two year old is therefore accepted town behavior from her, and we should not hold her accountable for her own actions? No. You lynch her. You show that it is not an acceptable response to a shitty situation.

If she won't participate in the game, she should replace out, not hold her activity over our heads and say we best do what she wants.

fuck that

I agree. However, I'm also realistic and I don't have the energy to fight RC (who is a he afaik but ok..) But sure, go ahead and make them post if you want. I'm not doing it. Will just lead to me getting pissed off for talking in circles.

Yeah there's a lot of people here nowadays that think of themselves as scumhunting gods. Whatever. I'm not going to waste my energy on them anymore. If they wanna engage with me fine, but I'm no longer going to use all my energy to get someone to respond to me anymore. They can be lynched if they don't start talking at some point, meanwhile I'll find my reads somewhere else and PoE from there. Simple as that.

[Shiro]

Shiro simply voted beeboy and I didn't like that vote. beeboy is obv!town to me. End of

Ooook, I am not voting beeboy though

[Almost50]

@Maru:

Oh.. checking your join date I was under the assumption you must've played with RC before, but I probably jumped to conclusions too fast.

RC will try to force a lynch on his scum read in any possible way he can. He also will try to push someone he's null reading to get a reaction. Finally he'd lead a wagon on a TOWN read to catch opportunistic scum.

Now he can tell the difference is something I honestly don't know, but I do know it works more often than not. So, if you see him pushing someone relentlessly just act normal according to your own reads on the target. Vote with him if you do scum read the target, or stay off the wagon if you town read the target. people who don't know RC might indeed get irritated by the way he plays, but then it's irritating to both town and scum and the latter are the ones who actually crack under much pressure, so -in a way- it's beneficial for us to watch and observe how things go.

[Almost50]

Shiro simply voted beeboy and I didn't like that vote. beeboy is obv!town to me. End of

Ooook, I am not voting beeboy though

OMG.. OMG!! That's MY BAD!

I was responding to Masquerade's 229 and I clearly meant to type FIRE ASSASSIN. I don't even know where your name jumped into my post from, as I've never scum read you (nor town read you for all that it's worth).

Apologies, my friend. It was FA who voted beeboy and it was FA I got the bad vibes from for it.

[Maruchan]

I'm not irritated by his playstyle, I'm irritated BY HIS REFUSAL TO FUCKING PLAY.

oh my god how are you not seeing the distinct difference here.

[Frozen Angel]

“

Love is the voice under all silences, the hope which has no opposite in fear; the strength so strong mere force is feebleness: the truth more first than sun, more last than star...

”

EE Cummings