Mass Effect Mafia - [Game Over]

[Painbringer]

Vote Count 4.04

DrippingGoofball (L-9): TellTaleHeart
TellTaleHeart (L-7): Party Boat, ooba, Varsoon
Suzune (L-9): Beeboy,
Zakk (L-6): Expedience, Cake Effect, Skybird, duppin,
Shiro (L-6): MathBlade, killthestory, FA_Q2, curiouskarmadog

Not Voting (6): DrippingGoofball, heuristically_alone, PeregrineV, Suzune, Zakk, Shiro,

With 19 Alive, It Takes 10 to Lynch.

Day 4 ends (expired on 2016-06-19 20:40:00)

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Days have been to short to warrant a prod. I will be watching deadline from day start closely.

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh, I'm not giving up. I'm voting a scumread of mine, TTH, who I know isn't aligned as Turian and who I know is playing towards their scum meta and skating by today.

What faction do you think he's in?

[Varsoon]

Not human or Turian, so an enemy of mine.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'll probably vote TTH or Shiro.

Gladiate: Shiro & TTH

[zakk]

What's this gladiate thing supposed to actually do?

[FA_Q2]

that was confusingly worded.

basically,
shiro-turian would be cool to keep alive by me.
shiro-asari wouldn't make sense, since they shouldn't be trying to kill themselves lol
shiro-krogan wouldn't make sense, since they wouldn't want to kill asari, since there's only one geth left, and they could win with asari still, but not turian/salarian/human.


after thinking it through, i've changed my mind, i'm against a shiro lynch.


shiro is probably human.


p-edit thanks for that shiro.

Funny that you completely ignored the obvious mindset his post comes from - salarian.

I was replying to the post that said shiro was coaching krogans to kill asari and salarian

Do you think he's salarian?

It is what makes sense. They would be the ones that would want town to start lynching asari for them.

[Shiro]

Welo if that is real and thh is not krogan or Asari gg.

Probably isn't though. Seeing as Dgb is claimed rolecop.

[Shiro]

that was confusingly worded.

basically,
shiro-turian would be cool to keep alive by me.
shiro-asari wouldn't make sense, since they shouldn't be trying to kill themselves lol
shiro-krogan wouldn't make sense, since they wouldn't want to kill asari, since there's only one geth left, and they could win with asari still, but not turian/salarian/human.


after thinking it through, i've changed my mind, i'm against a shiro lynch.


shiro is probably human.


p-edit thanks for that shiro.

Funny that you completely ignored the obvious mindset his post comes from - salarian.

I was replying to the post that said shiro was coaching krogans to kill asari and salarian

Do you think he's salarian?

It is what makes sense. They would be the ones that would want town to start lynching asari for them.

Bullshit. As salarians Priority is to get humans and cross kill krogans.

As salarian you need us weaker si the Turians find them.more appealing.

But ok, stay to your single minded idea of ooooh the whole top spectrum of town, we are all friends. When yiu get backstabed because you trusted non humans, you will bitch about the setup being unfair.

[zakk]

Ranger has Beeboy as a second tier townread and has claimed a scumread on me but is not pushing me.

The reason beeboy isn't in the top tier is that he made a very...not-Asari post: in 199, he is under the belief that Varsoon would only get a negative on an Asari.
But as an Asari himself, he should know that he gets negatives on everyone except other Asari, not just on a Turian.

Then there's the fact that the Asari

do not know the other Asari

, yet in 200, he says he's claiming so that the Asari don't need to save him.

As for you, that's been explained. You're who I'm planning to neighborize. That's my night action. You're not human. That's painfully, painfully obvious. This does not necessarily mean we cannot win together, and even IF you're outside the group I can win with, that doesn't mean we don't have common enemies we want dead first.

this is a really good point that makes a lot of sense.

beeboy should have claimed much differently than he did in 199/200, if he was really an asari.

i think beeboy needs death.

[zakk]

and this comes from a geth ^

[zakk]

that was confusingly worded.

basically,
shiro-turian would be cool to keep alive by me.
shiro-asari wouldn't make sense, since they shouldn't be trying to kill themselves lol
shiro-krogan wouldn't make sense, since they wouldn't want to kill asari, since there's only one geth left, and they could win with asari still, but not turian/salarian/human.


after thinking it through, i've changed my mind, i'm against a shiro lynch.


shiro is probably human.


p-edit thanks for that shiro.

Funny that you completely ignored the obvious mindset his post comes from - salarian.

I was replying to the post that said shiro was coaching krogans to kill asari and salarian

Do you think he's salarian?

It is what makes sense. They would be the ones that would want town to start lynching asari for them.

turian might; geth might; and i've explained why i think human might.

i think his explanations (with numbers, especially given what can/very well may happen today and tonight) make sense from a standpoint of humans standing to lose their numbers quickly, and i think that's worth considering.

this is me, defending shiro. even though i'm the counter-wagon.
i have absolutely no knowledge about him, other than what i've read thus far (a lot of D1, and most of the later days, still catching up there) but i don't see any smoking gun here. so, i could be wrong, but that's what i feel right now.

better question:

what do you think of those on my wagon?

[zakk]

btw

vote: beeboy

this will come off if a claimed asari has claimed to have checked beeboy and found him to be asari

[zakk]

Also, Bait did literally scumclaim, but if everyone voted Bait right now we'd end the day with only half the players having checked in.

So I'm not voting Bait right now, even though I intend to.

also, i'm very interested to know why bait was NOT lynched, given his antics, and the HORRIBLE amount of groupthink of people being baited by him into voting him.

i have to say, if that was a gimmick of his designed specifically based on his username, then he's a badass. hahahahaha

[zakk]

Ranger's just scum full stop. Probably with Beeboy.
He explained like absolutely gamebreaking issues with Beeboy's claim and then... moved him down to tier 2. No explanation of why the townread was ever that strong.

And the scumread on me? no.

elsa being salarian, ranger being geth, let's think about this post again.

ranger might have thought beeboy was krogan, and only moved him down to tier 2 because he knew he might need him to win later, but also needed to appear "town", so he needed to "scumhunt" even though he's right at the bottom

i could see Elsa thinking beeboy was probably krogan and wanting to point it out. we'll see what RC/elsa does following this, with regards to beeboy. and how ranger treats him too, for that matter.

[zakk]

Bait is literal bait, guys.

and you think since i replaced the slot, it's not bait any more? you're currently on my wagon.

[zakk]

Tbh, the way I am seeing this game humans are fairly screwed.

I mean Asari and Turians have no real reason to side with us over krogan/salarian and krogan and salarian have no reason to side with the geth that can win with both sides thus too risky to keep.

But the geth van only help them so they have to giving each side a majority, making us pretty much useless to other parties par being a "majority" with no organization like them.

shiro explain this again please.

[zakk]

Not really since Asari can win with krogan and Turians can win with salarians.

More like selective survivors

feeling town-vibes from shiro

[zakk]

Done catching up : My scum reads : Varsoon , Beeboy (both for their natural claims becuase thats just stupid if they are really one. I feel its more probable for them to be in the mafia factions allied with their claims want to make friendship with survivors? anyway both must live for now. let future sort them out.) , bait (officially scum slipped) ,

TTH (for pushing a replacement like that instead of making anything substantial)

agree with the bolded above, plus:

#125 ignores #124 calling him scum, to answer a random question which accomplishes nothing.
#253 talks about a bunch of un-game-related shit, as an excuse to vote someone who hasn’t even made any in-game specific content.

TTH is a great place to vote.

[zakk]

also

VOTE: bait

Varsoon and Party Boat, you guys should probably kill me tonight

man

i make that whole big post about how important survival is this game

and you say this?

that hurts.

also, varsoon is very, very likely to be turian, just as he's claimed to be, because of the way he claimed making sense and generally not being a contrived mess, paired with the fact that if he's lying there are 4 real turians that have reeeeeeal good odds of targeting him and outing him as actual scum. so there's that.

this is kinda why i'm doubting doubting beeboy's claim because of this last paragraph

however, idk yet.

also, thanks for outing your main, lol

[zakk]

that was confusingly worded.

basically,
shiro-turian would be cool to keep alive by me.
shiro-asari wouldn't make sense, since they shouldn't be trying to kill themselves lol
shiro-krogan wouldn't make sense, since they wouldn't want to kill asari, since there's only one geth left, and they could win with asari still, but not turian/salarian/human.


after thinking it through, i've changed my mind, i'm against a shiro lynch.


shiro is probably human.


p-edit thanks for that shiro.

Funny that you completely ignored the obvious mindset his post comes from - salarian.

I was replying to the post that said shiro was coaching krogans to kill asari and salarian

Do you think he's salarian?

It is what makes sense. They would be the ones that would want town to start lynching asari for them.

Bullshit. As salarians Priority is to get humans and cross kill krogans.

As salarian you need us weaker si the Turians find them.more appealing.

But ok, stay to your single minded idea of ooooh the whole top spectrum of town, we are all friends. When yiu get backstabed because you trusted non humans, you will bitch about the setup being unfair.

this shit seems pretty human.

[zakk]

yeah never mind. the beeboy suspicion was kinda dumb. lol

unvote

probably voting TTH after i finish re-reading.

[Shiro]

Tbh, the way I am seeing this game humans are fairly screwed.

I mean Asari and Turians have no real reason to side with us over krogan/salarian and krogan and salarian have no reason to side with the geth that can win with both sides thus too risky to keep.

But the geth van only help them so they have to giving each side a majority, making us pretty much useless to other parties par being a "majority" with no organization like them.

shiro explain this again please.

At the start of the game. In my mind I thought that humans unless they could consistently be a majority are screwed because the Turians and the Asari have no other incentive to ally with us over Salarians and Krogans.

At the same time krogan and salarian would tend to prefer Asari and Turians respectively over the geth who can turn on then at every moment.

So the geth are left there But their wincon being only achievable with krogan or salarian. They cannot do much else but to help them as well.

So us humans are easily left with nothing unless we can do population control. Which is why I said humans are fairly screwed.

[Skybird]

What you did post was weak though Skybird, just little reads and barely any content. Please do contribute more!

-SC

Why do I need to die?

He can speak for himself skybird but I for my part I would agree you need to die. If you want to know why then you might just go over and click your ISO and realize that there are players that never entered the game with as much content as you have posted - essentially zero.

The problem is, of course, that the list of zero content players if fucking huge this game and we are past page 100. It is pathetic.

Fuck off FAQ. When I subbed in you guys quick lynched and I didn't even get a chance to post that day. Then I got to post three times before you guys quick lynched again. But in my second post I town-read you and scum read Zakk. I still think you are town but quit being an asshole, OK?

I am not being an ass at all - stating simple fact.

You have not posted any real content. End of story. Rather than continuing to post no content in the form of telling me to fuck off, why don't you just post some.

Perhaps you both could so kindly give me a bit of time? /s

that was confusingly worded.

basically,
shiro-turian would be cool to keep alive by me.
shiro-asari wouldn't make sense, since they shouldn't be trying to kill themselves lol
shiro-krogan wouldn't make sense, since they wouldn't want to kill asari, since there's only one geth left, and they could win with asari still, but not turian/salarian/human.


after thinking it through, i've changed my mind, i'm against a shiro lynch.


shiro is probably human.


p-edit thanks for that shiro.

Funny that you completely ignored the obvious mindset his post comes from - salarian.

I was replying to the post that said shiro was coaching krogans to kill asari and salarian

Do you think he's salarian?

It is what makes sense. They would be the ones that would want town to start lynching asari for them.

Bullshit. As salarians Priority is to get humans and cross kill krogans.

As salarian you need us weaker si the Turians find them.more appealing.

But ok, stay to your single minded idea of ooooh the whole top spectrum of town, we are all friends. When yiu get backstabed because you trusted non humans, you will bitch about the setup being unfair.

I'm not seeing your pessimism here about humans being screwed. Each faction has a group across from them that absolutely has to be lynched. The two neighbors for that enemy group also must be lynched. Each faction's priority is the group directly across from them and those neighbors.

The two groups that have night kills (Salarians and Krogans) priority kills should be the Asari and Turians. (Which does make me wonder why a claimed Asarian in Beeboy is still alive. Same with Varsoon.) At this stage of the game, I prefer to keep as many of the top half alive. Later we will have to turn on one group or the other.

[Skybird]

UNVOTE: Zakk

My vote there was more to push him for content. With his recent posts I can start to sort him and see if he needs to be re-voted.

[Shiro]

Later we will have to turn on one group or the other.

Yes and the asari and turians will be all like

"Yea we will just be humans dog on a leash for them to just discard one of us when we help them defeat the opposition. Seems like a plan."

I don't think so