Mini 1796 | May 13th - Game over (Tomato Mafia wins)

[Creature]

What if I say there's something waiting for you in the end?

VC 2.5

Votecount 2.5

[1] Tommy - Raskolnikov
[0] Raskolnikov
[0] Lowell
[0] Zachstralkita
[0] nnn_thekushmountains
[0] AlpacaAlpaca
[0] Transcend
[3] JarJarDrinks - Bacde, Transcend, inspectorscout
[0] Trivium
[3] inspectorscout - JarJarDrinks, Zachstralkita, Trivium
[0] Bacde

[0] Nolynch

Not voting (4): Tommy, Lowell, nnn_thekushmountains, AlpacaAlpaca

With 11 alive, 6 votes is the majority.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-06-17 18:30:00)

[Transcend]

After 1 1/2 days in this game, JarJar tries to get me off his dick by townreading and attempting to pocket me to no avail. Now he makes up contradictions about me to fabricate a scumread on me.

I don't really give a fuck that he scumreads me since he's mafia just pointing it out.

Saying that someone is useless but having a keen eye isn't a contradiction. I think inspector has been genuinely trying but his reads are bad. But then again, he is voting mafia so maybe he isn't bad. I'm alluding to his SR on Trivium being bad.

This game sucks.

[JarJarDrinks]

@Transcend

The thing is, I'm not reading you as a bad player. So it's hard for me to see you as town when your reads are so off.

[3] JarJarDrinks - Bacde, Transcend, inspectorscout

I know for a fact that I'm town. I think it's close to impossible for there to be 3 townies voting for me right now. So for you to be town, you'd have to be wrong about me AND wrong about scout and/or Bacde.

[Transcend]

k

[JarJarDrinks]

And your scumread on me is too strong for it to be real. Like all you're doing is tunneling. Your reasoning for thinking I'm scum is mostly vague nonsense.


And since I'm reading you as a good player, it's more likely that you're scum. (Unlike bacde who seems like a terrible mafia player to me)

[Transcend]

i appreciate that you think i'm good

[JarJarDrinks]

i appreciate that you think i'm good

Assuming that I legit think that and it's not just a another scum attempt butter you up so u get off my dick right?

[Lowell]

I'm okay with both lead wagons. Which even as I write it sounds scummy, but here we are. VOTE: jarjar who seems more flailing of the two.

Strongest townread remains bacde, followed by transcend and tommy. I like that transcend is skeptical of my townreading him (which is always my reaction too... in the rare cases when I'm townread), and I still read tommy as newbtown.

[Trivium]

lowell I waited this long and you betray me
I have an idea. When jarjar flips town, we lynch inspector, then subsequently transcend.

[Trivium]

or transcend then inspector

[JarJarDrinks]

Tell me that post is just part 1 of huge series of posts Lowell.

[Transcend]

I'm okay with both lead wagons. Which even as I write it sounds scummy, but here we are. VOTE: jarjar who seems more flailing of the two.

Strongest townread remains bacde, followed by transcend and tommy. I like that transcend is skeptical of my townreading him (which is always my reaction too... in the rare cases when I'm townread), and I still read tommy as newbtown.

if your slot is town then who should i sr besides you

[Tommy]

I'm here bud what do you wanna say about me.

I have a problem with this:

Are you saying Kush gets a pass because he may not have known Shotty was at L-1?

Sure, I'm willing to give him BOTD.

It's very clear that Kush knew. Trivium had been talking about his intent to hammer; Zach had said he was at L-1; a minute after the hammer Kush said he'd forgotten about claims. If he'd thought it wasn't a hammer, he wouldn't be talking about claims, he'd be saying 'That was a HAMMER?'

So I don't think there's any doubt to give him the benefit of, and you trying to do so makes me uneasy about you. As does your attempt to stifle my investigation of the hammer and your gradual shift towards saying you'd merely 'misinterpreted' me after others criticised your stance.

And it's very evident that Scout is real about Triviium. He genuinely thinks that he contradicted himself.

The part that I have a hard time accepting is that he claims to believe Trivium deliberately faked the townslip.

JarJar, can you please pull your points against Scout together into one handy guide, with quotes?

I swear if shotty is mafia inspector is mafia too.

[snip]
well its basically buying a town card, no?

Well, not a very long-lasting town card, right? I mean it vanishes as soon as Shotty flips.

I guess Dunn being NKed kinda points to a town scout. Like why kill a person w/ influence that will likely try to keep him out of the noose?

This is too WIFOM to be useful.

fwiw I'd compromise on a Lowell policy lynch if he doesn't give us something aside from prod-dodges.

There's no need to appeal to policy to lynch a lurker: lurking is scummy. But I'm willing to give Lowell a chance to contribute now that he's back from his second honeymoon.

Going to wait a bit longer for Kush to reply to my latest question. But if each round of questioning takes two days, this is going to be untenable. Kush's lurking is scummier than Lowell's.

[Transcend]

by giving him botd i meant that he forgot about asking for claims. he acknowledged that he was at l-1.

good post btw.

[Trivium]

whoa you're saying he didn't forget it was a hammer, he just forgot to ask for claims?

[Trivium]

Hey transcend, sometimes you just gotta bus your partner if they make too obvious of a mistake.

[Trivium]

I understand forgetting that it was L1, but forgetting to ask for claims, let alone INTENT TO HAMMER when you know it's a hammer is ridiculous no matter how you look at it.

[Trivium]

I don't care how new he is, that rings new scum more than it does new town.

[Lowell]

wait did I hammer? haha fun. LOLHAMMERS are my specialty. It'll be fine.

[Lowell]

nah wait again that wasn't even close to a hammer. what are you whining about, triv?

@transcend, either there's a typo in 861 or I don't know what you're asking.

[Trivium]

I was talking about kush's hammer D1

[Zachstralkita]

I guess Dunn being NKed kinda points to a town scout. Like why kill a person w/ influence that will likely try to keep him out of the noose?

I would have thought Transcend would be the one for that.

[Zachstralkita]

#409 leads me to believe Transcend is really less likely to be scum but that doesn't make him god's gift to mafia

[Bacde]

Sorry, I've really been slacking on this game

I have an upcoming board exam and I've been studying hard, in addition to the recent weekend

I have been running this game over in my head though. I haven't really caught up on anything new today but I have a serious question--Why are there not more votes on nnn? He went way up my scumdar with his stupid hammer vote yesterday and iirc he is experienced enough to know to not hammer stupidly. I'm still cool with lynching JarJar based on yesterday but does anyone want to compromise on nnn? Because I'm not feeling a scout lynch and it looks like its all the same people on scout/jarjar respectively

Unless anyone has any new arguments based on today as to why we should lynch scout, again I haven't really seen today stuff

[JarJarDrinks]

It is kinda crazy that kush has received basically zero pressure.

But in my mind the only scum motivation for the quickhammmer is if he believed that shotty escaping the noose meant it was likely that a scumbuddy would get hanged instead. And since the most likely candidates @ that point were only myself and scout, I'd prefer to hang scout before hanging kush. If scout were to flip red then I'd look hard @ kush.