Pick Your Power 6: The Revival (Game Over!)

[Fire Assassin]

Btw, do you want me to address anything in that or what?
I can, just let me know.

Why do you feel the need to ask permission to address a case against you?

If you're town, you'll address it without prompt because you'll know it can't be valid by virtue of your alignment.

If you're scum, I can see trying to slip by with a "hey, I offered to answer it but he didn't say I should!" if I ignored your post.

I asked because there's not much I can actually address here and, in thinking you are now towny, I wish not to clutter the thread with either boring reasons breaking down your case, nor with a useless TvT.
I can address things if you like, but I don't see the inherent need for it!

Town post.

[implosion]

Vote Count 1.7

Thestatusquo (5): Spiffeh, light_ganski, UpTooLate, hebichan, Katsuki
I Am Innocent (2): Cephrir, Lady Lambdadelta
Fire Assassin (1): GreyICE
Lady Lambdadelta (1): I Am Innocent
Aristophanes (1): House
GreyICE (1): Fire Assassin
Katsuki (1): Thestatusquo
Spiffeh (1): hiplop

Not Voting (5): SuddenlyARabbit, UnexpectedAnvil, zMuffinMan, ZZZX, Aristophanes


With 18 alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch.
Deadline is on June 19 at 3:00 AM EST, in (expired on 2016-06-19 03:00:00).

[House]

Btw, do you want me to address anything in that or what?
I can, just let me know.

Why do you feel the need to ask permission to address a case against you?

If you're town, you'll address it without prompt because you'll know it can't be valid by virtue of your alignment.

If you're scum, I can see trying to slip by with a "hey, I offered to answer it but he didn't say I should!" if I ignored your post.

I asked because there's not much I can actually address here

and, in thinking you are now towny, I wish not to clutter the thread with either boring reasons breaking down your case, nor with a useless TvT.
I can address things if you like, but I don't see the inherent need for it!

Clarify the underlined, please.

[Thestatusquo]

Btw, do you want me to address anything in that or what?
I can, just let me know.

Why do you feel the need to ask permission to address a case against you?

If you're town, you'll address it without prompt because you'll know it can't be valid by virtue of your alignment.

If you're scum, I can see trying to slip by with a "hey, I offered to answer it but he didn't say I should!" if I ignored your post.

I asked because there's not much I can actually address here and, in thinking you are now towny, I wish not to clutter the thread with either boring reasons breaking down your case, nor with a useless TvT.
I can address things if you like, but I don't see the inherent need for it!

Town post.

why?

[House]

Btw, do you want me to address anything in that or what?
I can, just let me know.

Why do you feel the need to ask permission to address a case against you?

If you're town, you'll address it without prompt because you'll know it can't be valid by virtue of your alignment.

If you're scum, I can see trying to slip by with a "hey, I offered to answer it but he didn't say I should!" if I ignored your post.

I asked because there's not much I can actually address here and, in thinking you are now towny, I wish not to clutter the thread with either boring reasons breaking down your case, nor with a useless TvT.
I can address things if you like, but I don't see the inherent need for it!

Town post.

scumreads aren't the only thing that can be confbiased, sport.

[Fire Assassin]

why?

He is sticking to his previous statement that he didn't want to clutter up the thread, and basically admitted he hasn't been the most productive player in the game. He doesn't say the case has zero merit, he just said "Yeah, but I am town and not engaging in this TvT", it read very town like to me.

[Fire Assassin]

scumreads aren't the only thing that can be confbiased, sport.

True, except I haven't read anything as fake by him and he does seem like he is thinking about the game. Maybe I am wrong, but I have good vibes on the guy. Your case didn't hold much water to me.

[Aristophanes]

Btw, do you want me to address anything in that or what?
I can, just let me know.

Why do you feel the need to ask permission to address a case against you?

If you're town, you'll address it without prompt because you'll know it can't be valid by virtue of your alignment.

If you're scum, I can see trying to slip by with a "hey, I offered to answer it but he didn't say I should!" if I ignored your post.

I asked because there's not much I can actually address here

and, in thinking you are now towny, I wish not to clutter the thread with either boring reasons breaking down your case, nor with a useless TvT.
I can address things if you like, but I don't see the inherent need for it!

Clarify the underlined, please.

What I mean to say is that a lot of your post is just quotes. I cannot address them because they are simply that.
For actual content, it is there, but much of it is opinion based, and thus cannot be addressed in a productive fashion.

As for things which can actually be addressed, I have previously addressed some of them.
The rest are either minimal or nit-picky.

It will honestly waste everyone's time.

[House]

scumreads aren't the only thing that can be confbiased, sport.

True, except I haven't read anything as fake by him and he does seem like he is thinking about the game. Maybe I am wrong, but I have good vibes on the guy. Your case didn't hold much water to me.

Thinking about the game? That's a blatant lie. By his own admission he hasn't been thinking about the game!

[Aristophanes]

scumreads aren't the only thing that can be confbiased, sport.

True, except I haven't read anything as fake by him and he does seem like he is thinking about the game. Maybe I am wrong, but I have good vibes on the guy. Your case didn't hold much water to me.

Thinking about the game? That's a blatant lie. By his own admission he hasn't been thinking about the game!

However, I am now!

[House]

Btw, do you want me to address anything in that or what?
I can, just let me know.

Why do you feel the need to ask permission to address a case against you?

If you're town, you'll address it without prompt because you'll know it can't be valid by virtue of your alignment.

If you're scum, I can see trying to slip by with a "hey, I offered to answer it but he didn't say I should!" if I ignored your post.

I asked because there's not much I can actually address here

and, in thinking you are now towny, I wish not to clutter the thread with either boring reasons breaking down your case, nor with a useless TvT.
I can address things if you like, but I don't see the inherent need for it!

Clarify the underlined, please.

What I mean to say is that a lot of your post is just quotes. I cannot address them because they are simply that.
For actual content, it is there, but much of it is opinion based, and thus cannot be addressed in a productive fashion.

As for things which can actually be addressed, I have previously addressed some of them.
The rest are either minimal or nit-picky.

It will honestly waste everyone's time.

Well of course you wouldn't address the quoted content in my post. But then, my case is not within the quoted content which renders your excuse laughable.

[Fire Assassin]

scumreads aren't the only thing that can be confbiased, sport.

True, except I haven't read anything as fake by him and he does seem like he is thinking about the game. Maybe I am wrong, but I have good vibes on the guy. Your case didn't hold much water to me.

Thinking about the game? That's a blatant lie. By his own admission he hasn't been thinking about the game!

He must be scum then

[House]

scumreads aren't the only thing that can be confbiased, sport.

True, except I haven't read anything as fake by him and he does seem like he is thinking about the game. Maybe I am wrong, but I have good vibes on the guy. Your case didn't hold much water to me.

Thinking about the game? That's a blatant lie. By his own admission he hasn't been thinking about the game!

He must be scum then

Whatever he is, you're simply confbiased and accusing me of being so.

Stop being a hypocrite.

[Thestatusquo]

why?

He is sticking to his previous statement that he didn't want to clutter up the thread, and basically admitted he hasn't been the most productive player in the game. He doesn't say the case has zero merit, he just said "Yeah, but I am town and not engaging in this TvT", it read very town like to me.

Literally all he has done is cluttered the thread.

How many of his posts are joke posts? Actually go count them. I'll wait.

[Aristophanes]

Whatever.

FA is playing well and I like it.

I answered your questions, Shea.

I think this thing with house is becoming laughable.

What else would you like from me?

[Aristophanes]

Well of course you wouldn't address the quoted content in my post. But then, my case is not within the quoted content which renders your excuse laughable.

I'll respond then, holy shit!

[Thestatusquo]

Whatever.

FA is playing well and I like it.

I answered your questions, Shea.

I think this thing with house is becoming laughable.

What else would you like from me?

do something.

[Aristophanes]

Either you're wrong, or he's a traitor.

First off, what does this actually mean!? I am either scum, or I'm a traitor. So are you calling me antitown or what? Because this literally makes zero fucking sense!

So, after proclaiming me scum and developing his pet theory about how my play is scum motivated, he takes UA's claim at face value. What? If anything my claim is the more credible of the two merely because I wasn't the one that sat back and waited to see how town would react first.

Okay, well there are a few things wrong here.
1. Not a pet theory. It was my working theory at the time, and I have now come off it.
2. I asked him questions to clarify whether he got it or not first actually. I found the duality and the late mention of it interesting.
I also don't think scum would claim that if they got the role. My theory on you was that you were going for the role as scum, had been blocked, and were using it as a town-claim. Anvil saying he got Ninja is far less likely to be from scum imo. I stand by that.
3. He didn't "sit back and wait for out reactions." He wasn't around to claim it, by his own admission.

So now, he seems to believe we could both be telling the truth.... yet he's still voting me. If he truly believes I'm being honest, why wouldn't he have unvoted me by this point?
...
200 posts later, he finally gives up and slinks off my wagon.

Yeah, and I had 3 posts in between. Guess what they were? Proddodges where I admitted I had neither read much, nor had done anything substantial.
Boo-fucking-Hoo I hadn't unvoted you!
I included these posts below so you can see my lack of actual fucks being given to the game at that point.

What happened to your Lady read between these two posts?

She's being pretty good and I'd like to see more of it. I read her alright until we got fighting last game we played, so I can let that sit on the back burner for a while.

I could also vote Aristophanes

The majority of his conversation has surrounded the draft claims and I don't like how he goes from shading the fuck out of House's strongman draft claim to believing the other guy's ninja claim unconditionally

Ari outside of draft claims what are some of your reads?

You're right, I haven't done much. I like how you called me out on it here. This is town Spiff.

Why is everyone on IAI?
I've liked him this far.

VOTE: thestatusquo

Concurring with hiplop's feelings about 119.

Does anyone else think I Am Innocent's posts feel really fake?

No, I do not think I am Innocents posts look fake.
I have seen about 3-4 players mention something looking "fake" already, and its becoming a buzzword in this game. So no, I think 90% of the players are wrong.

FAKE!

Spoiler:

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1) No, he HAS NOT been at all productive.
2) No, he HAS NOT advanced the game state.
3) Perhaps? You can't even state for certainty the reason you decide to unvote someone?
4) Your alleged push was not scumhunting by any stretch of the imagination. You fabricated a theory that painted me as scum for one action, but gave credibility to another player FOR THE VERY SAME ACTION. Can you now fabricate a theory as to why you swallowed their claim without question when you were ready to feed me rope for doing the same thing?

1. I said as much and am currently being productive. But of course, why acknowledge that?
2. See above.
3. Yeah, I don't have an exact point. It developed itself over time, I unvoted when I was around and thinking about it.
4. I was scumhunting. I may go about it differently than you, but I am not wrong in doing it this way!
I did not fabricate my read on you or on Anvil. I gathered more info and used it to judge my reads. Info changes, reads change. Come off it already!

Everybody that is jumping on others for meta/playstyle quirks, put that shit on the back burner and lynch Aristophanes who has clearly shown a complete lack of town motivation, and I'm convinced that his push on me came from butthurt scum that got their role denied.

Guess what! Since this post is stupid and cluttery and antitown anyway, I'm gonna end it with a bang! I also went 100 on the stupid fucking Strongman role! We literally had the same idea pregame. So when you claimed I thought it was very interesting it was outed and wanted to see why you claimed it! I was going to feign better powers and draw an NK, so to claim outright was a weird way to go to me. Therefore I pushed you on it and here we are!
So you're partially right! My focus on you and on this point was because I went for strongman as well! I just would have approached the game in a far different matter and wanted to know if your manner of approach was town or scum in motivation.

So can you fuck off with this god damned push and find some actual scum please?

[Aristophanes]

Whatever.

FA is playing well and I like it.

I answered your questions, Shea.

I think this thing with house is becoming laughable.

What else would you like from me?

do something.

This is me doing things.
You don't like how I do things? Fucking deal with it!
I caught up. I answered questions. I pushed people. I gave reads. I responded to this stupid-ass case.
I don't really know what the fuck else to do!

I'll go Iso Light and Grey now, since that was next on my list, but goddamn!

[Aristophanes]

Wow, I forget why Fire wanted me to check out GreyIce, but I'm glad I did. This slot lacks any depth and seems to be poking at trivial matters.

Would vote here. Ass him to the scumlean pile.

[Aristophanes]

Yeah, Light is newbscum. Can we lynch this?
VOTE: Light

[Cephrir]

lets just lynch spiffeh

No?

We should lynch GreyIce instead.

You are conf biasing at this point.

Also, you should stop being deliberately unhelpful.

FA is playing well and I like it.

Essentially all I got out of the last 4 pages is that Aristophanes is town. I could quote a bunch of posts where I think his tone comes off as lighthearted, genuine and fun, and I could even explain how that does not remind me of what little I paid attention to of another game where he was scum, which I wouldn't do even if I did the first thing because then everyone would assume I was mostly basing this opinion off shitty meta of someone I didn't play with. I'd rather just say that I think he sounds pretty town.

[Cephrir]

Yeah, Light is newbscum. Can we lynch this?
VOTE: Light

I've been considering this and I'm not sure whether I agree with it. It's possible she just posts without tone all the time and/or is a weird person who I can't read for tone, but I think the probability she's just scum is fairly high.

[Cephrir]

Would like some input from IAI and ZZZX right about now.

[Cephrir]

Light, is your vote still on Shea for a reason?