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Trivium · Post Post #1700 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:44 pm

I would like everybody to really ISO zach. Especially his reaction to my blatant buddying and WK'ing.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1701 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:46 pm

Trivium wrote:
In post 1695, Zachstralkita wrote:Having Lowell as a neutral read after he got L-1'd yesterday is bad, too.

We should just flip him today.
This is not OK. If you don't scumread someone or at least have a reason to, you can't just coast on being 'powertown' and flip your nullreads.

What are you talking about? Scout nullreads him. I scumread him.

Trivium wrote:I would like everybody to really ISO zach. Especially his reaction to my blatant buddying and WK'ing.

You're gonna sprain a fucking ligament with all that reaching bruh. take it from me

Trivium · Post Post #1702 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:47 pm

UNVOTE: Zach

Trivium · Post Post #1703 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:47 pm

I interpreted 'neutral read' as your own neutral read.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1704 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:49 pm

In post 1703, Trivium wrote:I interpreted 'neutral read' as your own neutral read.

So that was it?

Trivium wrote:I would like everybody to really ISO zach. Especially his reaction to my blatant buddying and WK'ing.

Because this post makes you look really bad. Really bad.

Trivium · Post Post #1705 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:55 pm

I've just been a bit suspicious of the way you reacted to my strong townread of you. It wasn't the way I'd expect town to react to it, at all, but I still townread you. I guess I just wanted to see how you would react to being voted.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1706 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:10 pm

In post 1412, Raskolnikov wrote:Okay if I HAD to choose between scout and jarjar I would lynch scout because of the way he townreads people like hes giving out free candy. But I don't want either of them.

In post 1413, Raskolnikov wrote:I want to go back to lowell.

And he turns up dead.

We should kill Lowell. Quit lusting over JarJar for a little.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1707 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:13 pm

In post 1420, Raskolnikov wrote:He really isn't vote hopping compared to like everyone else and he's solidly anti scout. Jarjar scum has been pushed by over half the game and a substantial amount are power towns like trans so having that driven into you day after day will wear you down if you're not egotistical like me and assume everyones wrong.

I don't care if you townread me I just want to get to tomorrow because
I'm hoping for some clarity then tbh
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His investigation results probably would have got us somewhere today. I'm pretty sure he would have wanted us to get Lowell, and that may have been who he investigated from what I can tell.

Transcend · Post Post #1708 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:13 pm

Sheep my vote

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1709 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:14 pm

In post 1708, Transcend wrote:Sheep my vote

Not I.

Transcend · Post Post #1710 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:37 pm

I promised to give infinity botd on his alpaca read. We're hanging jarjar. If not jar then tommy.

Bacde · Post Post #1711 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:08 pm

In post 1630, JarJarDrinks wrote:reading Rasks ISO, I'd say that he had a green-check on Triv.

I can guarantee you this is wrong

Bacde · Post Post #1712 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:10 pm

In post 1700, Trivium wrote:I would like everybody to really ISO zach. Especially his reaction to my blatant buddying and WK'ing.

Which post? I'm not sure I'm seeing what you are trying to point out

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1713 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:14 pm

In post 1711, Bacde wrote:
In post 1630, JarJarDrinks wrote:reading Rasks ISO, I'd say that he had a green-check on Triv.
I can guarantee you this is wrong

It doesnt matter he TRd Triv

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1714 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:15 pm

You guys aren't willing to lynch scum so...

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #1715 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:30 pm

In post 1711, Bacde wrote:
In post 1630, JarJarDrinks wrote:reading Rasks ISO, I'd say that he had a green-check on Triv.
I can guarantee you this is wrong

Huh?

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1716 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:34 pm

Bacde how can you make a guarantee of that sort? or is it just because JJD said it lol

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #1717 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:44 pm

Reason I think he had a greencheck on triv is cause of this exchange.

In post 1415, Infinity 324 wrote:Also what made you change your opinion on trivium

In post 1416, Raskolnikov wrote:Triviums town because hes super committed and zoned in onto his scumreads and his pushes are honest

Bacde · Post Post #1718 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:07 pm

In post 1717, JarJarDrinks wrote:Reason I think he had a greencheck on triv is cause of this exchange.
In post 1415, Infinity 324 wrote:Also what made you change your opinion on trivium
In post 1416, Raskolnikov wrote:Triviums town because hes super committed and zoned in onto his scumreads and his pushes are honest

I can buy this reasoning but...

it goes against my guarantee

I'm not sure how I feel about lowell, I still think he's a cop out FOS for people

I think scum have been awfully misleading in this game and I'm trying to figure things out

Transcend · Post Post #1719 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:08 pm

I think looking for softs is a bad idea.

Tommy · Post Post #1720 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:30 pm

Transcend, you haven't actually voted yet. Bold your vote and defend it, or take it back. Don't ask others to sheep you without giving a case.

Transcend · Post Post #1721 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:32 pm

i worked all day fuck off

Transcend · Post Post #1722 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:36 pm

meaning i didn't have time to make a case. i'll make one tonight or tomorrow

Transcend · Post Post #1723 (ISO) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 11:48 pm

trivium scout bacde and one other person.... this player needs to eat rope. if i don't get 5 solid votes for jarjar then i'm gonna make a case. otherwise, we can just lynch him.

VOTE: jarjar

Tommy · Post Post #1724 (ISO) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 12:42 am

Alpaca analysis

I agree that Alpaca's first reads list is scummy. There's one opinion buried in there: a town-read on Dunnstral. The rest is hedged about with caveats.

I also agree with Lowell that this is bad:

In post 546, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:Oh and I forgot
VOTE: Drmyshottyizsik
No point in saying he is the scummiest here than not vote him

Like he'd kind of trapped himself into committing to something.

Of his first ten posts, three have content and seven are fluff. This was good though, about drmyshottizsik:

In post 614, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:@Scout I am thinking he is scum because he has stated that posting opinions D1 is actually more beneficial to scum than other players and because of that he won't be posting his thoughts until D2

This is horrible:

In post 731, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:In my opinion I am currently scum reading Kush since as far as I can tell he is either scum or impulsive town, and I wouldn't want either in the endgame.

Says he's scum reading him, but then says 'either scum or town' in the same sentence. Unnecessarily qualified with 'In my opinion'. Worst of all, lumps impulsive town together with scum. The point is to discern these. Yeuch.

Here's Alpaca trying to help himself to some town cred after I pointed out Trivium's slip:

In post 786, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:The first time I read the psot I missed it but than got confused and I wondered if anyone had died since I didn't see anything so I went back over his post actually reading it all than I noticed it.

Lowell vote (soon after two other Lowell votes) supported by an extremely weak case.

Here's that let's-kill-weak-town-players issue again:

In post 958, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:Whether or not this is scummy it is at the very least anti town and I wouldn't want him in a lylo situation with this kind of mindset going on.

He's more interested in killing Kush than scum-hunting. He expresses this view a third time in post 1113. The fact that he keeps repeating it after taking flak for it makes it less of a scum-tell.

By post 964, he's gathered a bit more substance for his Lowell case.

Post 1137 defends Scout.

This is good, talking to Infinity:

In post 1401, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:So you think that he is too smart to hop on every wagon, but you townread Transcend for doing it, and you still think Triv is playing dumb?

This is awful:

In post 1433, AlpacaAlpaca wrote:I have put infinity on hold for now since I think the slot is scummy all the way back to the Kush hammer but I want to give him some more time to see what happens.

If Alpaca is scum, then I can see what he means by "to see what happens": he wants the wagon to go through but he doesn't want to get his hands dirty. If Alpaca is town, I literally have no idea what motivated him to say this. Then twelve posts later he puts Infinity at L-1.

VOTE: AlpacaAlpaca