Mini 1796 | May 13th - Game over (Tomato Mafia wins)

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strongly townreading Dunn. I think he was right when scumreading Rask.

I don't really like Zach as scum though. I can see him making that post as a joke.

VOTE: Raskolnikov

There's several Rask posts I don't like. Gonna point em out in a few.

Eh, I can't be bothered to seriously address this atm.

A fast wagon here actually has some value though

so this isn't completely terrible.

He's talking about a wagon on himself. How can there be value in a fast wagon on town on page 2? This post looks designed to let people know how pro-town he is.

I actually like dunn's aggressiveness

Again: lemme non-chalantley make sure the town knows I'm not worried about being lynched by implying that I'm totally cool w/ being pressured.

I'm not sure whether he's legitimately tunnelling

or pretending and exaggerating in order to get an emotional reaction

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Actually sorting this out so early is a mess because I have to consider ego and

because town lying for reactions is hard to tell

apart from scum lying for malicious purposes.

These posts look like subtle attempts to convey to the town that Dunn isn't actually scumreading him.

Or even if you don't want to think about drmy you can def give your view on dunn and me at this point.

Another LAMIST post

Ironically everyone defending me for no reason is more worrying that dunn possibly confbias tunneling here.

So now he's worried about the people defending him. Even though he voted DRMY for jumping on him. So I guess it's scummy to vote for Rask and it's scummy to defend him?

Maybe you can explain to me why town zach votes me in that scenario

Bad read?

I'm not exactly townreading Zach. But I don't think Zach and Rask can be scumbuddies and I think Rask is scum.

Triv could be scum. I think Zach/Dunn is town/town.

Still think Rask is bad. If he is town then that Yoshi post does look pretty terrible.

@transend. Not gonna say that you voting for me is scummy. But I do hate how you came in the thread whan u did and pretty much ignored everything happening @ the time.

How do you not give an opinion on Dunn v Zach? Or tell us what u think of leading vote-getter Rask?

Furthermore, if you are townreading Rask then why not mention that I'm pushing a lynch of your townread as a reason to vote for me?

VOTE: inspectorscout

I just read his ISO and so much fluff. There's like barely any opinions on anyone. And when he finally does give his reads:

Spoiler:

Ok niceee ive got some time

town

Dunn: hes actively contributing, his points seem pretty valid (and is one of the only that doesnt try to make bad jokes) however i do not agree hes 'town leader' because he is just finishing off discussions instead of starting them, nobody is leading this rn

nulltown

Transcend: like, you're readin the same way and you try to contribute. And that 'heavy non game related shit posts' just seems a way to avoid good reasoning and vote him. Still not convinced cuz u seem to buddying dunn and me, and thats slightly scummy

null

Raskol: everyone thought he was scummy, ranted about some emotional stuff and suddenly considered town. Have a bad feeling about that, but his later contributions seem town, so ill keep him at null

Kushmountain: what do u expect he posted once

Tommy: lel


Yah everyone i didnt mention is here too because they didnt post enough yet or just cuz i have absolutely no idea about them yet

nullscum

Drmy:his 'this is scum claim' was pretty ehhh suspicious and i dunno but to me it seemed like he wanted to bait me into a discussion about that. Not as much scum as the others but still (oh and adding exclamation marks 'town wouldnt even think to post that!' just make ur posts seem fake, just sayin)

Zach: tells seem rather forced and farfetched and i still hate his attitude, either he loves memes or hes just trying to spread a shitload of mist + lol my opinions are almost the same as dunn's yet u dont value his opinions WHILE you said u townread him

Yoshi: i still dont get transcend wagon, his reaction to triv was pretty weird , reads are kinda farfetched too. Still unsure about this one tho

it's basically townreading the guy that everyone is townreading and then weak-ass scumreads on 3 of the people that everyone else is suspecting.

And like all of his scum reads are "This guy seems like scum but IDK maybe not."

Just a list of strange reads there. WHy the F does he mention Kush as a null read for making ONE post but then he lumps everyone else in the nulls saying "Yah everyone i didnt mention is here too because they didnt post enough yet or just cuz i have absolutely no idea about them yet"?

I personally lean on it being a newbtown list given, that he's been towny throughout the rest of the game.

Not sure where ur seeing towniness. His ISO is just so much fluff. Setup spec, play by play, and just lots of going w/ town sentiment. Like every read he gives comes w/ an "although I could be wrong" type of comment.

what are u seeing that looks town in his posts?

False alarm dudes. Was making a case on JarJar, got about a third of the way through day 1, then my browser fucking closed and now I'm just pissed.

[Bacde]

vote: jarjar

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oh holy fuck my multiquotes still posted even tho i closed my browser HAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

VOTE: JarJar

[Zachstralkita]

Yeah I think Jarjar's flipping V

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flipping V is flipping town right?

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SCOUT TRIVIUM LOWELL LETS STEER THE TRACTION THIS WAY

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I shall finish my case in due time or you can make my life easy and just hang him.

[Zachstralkita]

flipping V is flipping town right?

ya

[JarJarDrinks]

^^ I don't understand this softclaim business.

Here is his softclaim.

reading Rasks ISO, I'd say that he had a green-check on Triv.

I can guarantee you this is wrong

I don't care if people think I'm rolefishing. Blame bacde for softclaiming. He made that post for a reason. Softclaims are scummy.

If you don't think that's a softclaim, get better @ mafia. @ least make him explain why he says he guaranteeing that rask didn't check triv.

Is it cause he hard scumreads triv? Or he doesn't think rask would have targetted him?

That's a ridiculous statement to just ignore.

[Zachstralkita]

If you don't think that's a softclaim, get better @ mafia. @ least make him explain why he says he guaranteeing that rask didn't check triv.

ya I dont think its a soft. He either drew a different conclusion from the same ISO or he dismissed your statement on the grounds that it was YOU saying it.

[JarJarDrinks]

This legitimately reads like my two scumreads pushing on a PR soft to get them to possibly hardclaim.

Not possibly. I think he should absolutely hardclaim.

And why would I even bother trying to get him to claim as scum? If I'm scum, I keep quiet and just kill him tonight.

I think he's probably scum. But on the off chance he's town and just made a terrible mistake, he's gonna get killed tonight anyway.

[JarJarDrinks]

If you don't think that's a softclaim, get better @ mafia. @ least make him explain why he says he guaranteeing that rask didn't check triv.

ya I dont think its a soft. He either drew a different conclusion from the same ISO or he dismissed your statement on the grounds that it was YOU saying it.

So there's no point in even asking him to explain it?

[Zachstralkita]

If you don't think that's a softclaim, get better @ mafia. @ least make him explain why he says he guaranteeing that rask didn't check triv.

ya I dont think its a soft. He either drew a different conclusion from the same ISO or he dismissed your statement on the grounds that it was YOU saying it.

So there's no point in even asking him to explain it?

This legitimately reads like my two scumreads pushing on a PR soft to get them to possibly hardclaim.

I think he should absolutely hardclaim.

There's still plenty of explaining for him to do either way

[Zachstralkita]

so you have nothing to say about Tommy sheeping your vote like that?

Transcend and JarJar are both town this is where I'm at right now so your wagons are useless because I don't agree with the Bacde push either

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i hate how stubborn you are about jarjar town zach.

[Zachstralkita]

i hate how stubborn you are about jarjar town zach.

just saying i have a baad feeling about that lynch

[Zachstralkita]

and the fact that its nOT TOMMY OR LOWELL

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but there's 3 mafia? if you tr me jarjar and bacde then who do you think is the last one?

[] scout
[] Trivium
[] Alpaca

place an "X" where applicable

[Zachstralkita]

but there's 3 mafia? if you tr me jarjar and bacde then who do you think is the last one?

[] scout
[] Trivium
[] Alpaca

place an "X" where applicable

[X] scout
[?] Trivium
[Applesauce] Alpaca


ALTERNATIVELY:

[] scout
[APPLESAUCE] Trivium
[X] Alpaca

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lmfao

[Zachstralkita]

lmfao

[Bacde]

This legitimately reads like my two scumreads pushing on a PR soft to get them to possibly hardclaim.

Not possibly. I think he should absolutely hardclaim.

And why would I even bother trying to get him to claim as scum? If I'm scum, I keep quiet and just kill him tonight.

I think he's probably scum. But on the off chance he's town and just made a terrible mistake, he's gonna get killed tonight anyway.

so you think if I just softclaimed the correct townie move is to try and pressure me to make me hardclaim?

your response is veerrryyyy interesting to me

I think you and I both know its not in town's interest to pressure me about that post

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This legitimately reads like my two scumreads pushing on a PR soft to get them to possibly hardclaim.

Not possibly. I think he should absolutely hardclaim.

And why would I even bother trying to get him to claim as scum? If I'm scum, I keep quiet and just kill him tonight.

I think he's probably scum. But on the off chance he's town and just made a terrible mistake, he's gonna get killed tonight anyway.

so you think if I just softclaimed the correct townie move is to try and pressure me to make me hardclaim?

your response is veerrryyyy interesting to me

I think you and I both know its not in town's interest to pressure me about that post

QFT.

Hey dude.

Catch me up.

You're standing under a guillotine machine, you name all 3 scum. If one of those reads is wrong, your motherfucking head gets chopped off.

Tell me scum.

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Also, leave Bacde alive today imo. Don't make him hardclaim. Protective role (there's probably one) go on him. If we ML then make him hardclaim tomorrow because we'll be in LYLO. In fact, we'll probably massclaim on LYLO. I think if Bacde had some extremely helpful information (IE a maf check) he would hardclaim.

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or hell, he might just be VT. guarantee is a strong word though.