New York 194: Guns N' Roses Mafia! (Day 8)

[RachMarie]

could be but why would they not be using their power? They did have an ascetic which kinda makes sense with tracker and backup tracker, since ascetics cant be tracked or investigated, only killed/lynched. Or do you think they can't use their power plus nk at the same time?

[Killthestory]

I don't know

I actually think mafia had a 1shot and there's 4 people all in a mafia team. Would it be even more powerful with a roleblocker, or would that be too powerful? Also consider this with an SK pleas.e

[Performer]

uggh that blue is impossible to read Perf

you can try highlighting the text
let me know if that helps

[Performer]

Hey, you guys want to know a secret? Is there a mafia rolebocker, or do you think there isn't?

Anyway, I'm willing to stick with the Nero wagon. Still kind of iffy on SS, need more time to delve into it.

I've considered this, but if they had a Roleblocker , I think I'd be dead by now.
Can RBs block all a role's abilities and kill , simultaneously?

I expect the scum team to have a total of 2 Goons and 1 Mafia Ascetic. The SK is anybody's guess on whatever additional abilities he has.
If the scum team had 4 instead of 3, that makes little sense.
3 scum+1 third party in 21-man large normal makes more sense. I played 2 large normals in my FM career - both had a total of 4 enemies vs the rest as town.
I really can't imagine any other plausible scenario.

[Killthestory]

Alrighty, so, as long as I have no fear of getting roleblocked, I still have a shot. I lied about my role. I'm a 3 shot vig. I can shoot anyone tonight long as they aren't bulletproof, or I get roleblocked.

[Performer]

I don't know

I actually think mafia had a 1shot and there's 4 people all in a mafia team. Would it be even more powerful with a roleblocker, or would that be too powerful? Also consider this with an SK pleas.e

Hmm. If the 3rd is an RB , that makes things somewhat trickier . Fortunately for us, our greatest weapon is our collective brainpower!

I just double checked the Wiki on info - RB cannot kill and block at same time. Come to think of it, if they could, that would be grossly imbalanced. I got the result that Sland went nowhere, instead of a "no result." So I'm very certain that my power went through last night.

[Killthestory]

Sland could still be the Serial Killer if there is one.

[Killthestory]

Also did you see the part where I claimed I had another shot?

[Performer]

KTS you're saying he has something like a Ninja ability??

I must've missed your post on having a another shot during reread.

[Performer]

KTS you're saying he has something like a Ninja ability??

I must've missed your post on having a another shot during reread.

...unless you mean on this same page

[Killthestory]

Performer I claimed I had a shot literally only a couple posts ago lol.

Anyway, if Slandaar is the SK, the SK hasn't been killing, meaning he isn't visiting anyone. So, your track result would just yield him as not visiting anyone. I think that makes sense. Otherwise, I'm stupid.

[Something_Smart]

This game now. Holy crap you guys post a lot.

[Performer]

Performer I claimed I had a shot literally only a couple posts ago lol.

Anyway, if Slandaar is the SK, the SK hasn't been killing, meaning he isn't visiting anyone. So, your track result would just yield him as not visiting anyone. I think that makes sense. Otherwise, I'm stupid.

I've considered this as well but I have a dual role (2nd part is too risky to out at this time). Based on the information in my role descriptions, and the NKA, I don't think the SK did a no kill. I wish I could say more and will elaborate post game, but I don't think it's wise for me to out the 2nd part.
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I also think we should plan ahead in case Nero flips scum or somehow does not, since as you guys brought up good points and I know as well - tracking has its limits.
1. If he does turn scum, which I 'm thinking is the case - tomorrow we have 6 left so 5v1, which isn't mylo or lylo. This is if you don't shoot.
2. If he's somehow town, then we have 5 left tomorrow with 3v2. We'll need 3 of 5 to lynch which means it's lylo. This is also if you don't shoot.

I think you should only shoot if he turns out scum. Then instead of 5v1, if SS somehow is town - it'll still be 4v1.

[Killthestory]

Shoot SS tonight then?

[Killthestory]

I was already going to shoot SS based off what you said, so revealing probably wasn't the smartest choice. Still, noted.

[Performer]

Yeah . Nero flips scum - shoot SS.

But in the event he somehow still is not scum - then please do not shoot.

KTS, it is an honor working with you .

[Something_Smart]

Why are you reading Fire as town, SS?

I've played with town!Fire several times and he feels mostly the same. Whoever said that he was useless as town and contributing as scum sounds about right.

I don't like hebichan's recent posting at all.

Tbh I don't think KTS's reads are very good. KAAG's posts were very clearly town, and I think his lack of interactions with Ozgin/Fragger looks good for him when you consider how good Ozgin and Fragger were at distancing with each other. On the other hand, Slandaar's pushing on Ozgin and Fragger is exactly what I would expect from their partner.
And finally, Nero is not playing this how I would expect any reasonable scum to play. Like he's picking a fight with the conftown which shows that he honestly believes in what he's fighting for and he's not sucking up to you at all.

I'm super confused about why people want to shoot me. I think I've been playing one of my better games and I think this game is close to solved. There's no way that scum could have an extra kill because the night of 3 deaths 2 were scum so 2 kills had to come from non-scum, so odds are it's one scum (possibly a roleblocker) and an SK. In that scenario, today is only MYLO if KTS shoots tonight.
Honestly I'm okay with being shot if Nero flips scum because my reads this game were already pretty bad and hopefully whoever of KTS and Performer survives can find the remaining scum. But I really don't think he will, and I'm afraid that he'll flip town and KTS will shoot me anyway.
I'm about ready for this game to end. If we can work out a failsafe plan for when Nero flips town then I'll follow Performer and KTS onto him. But not before then.

[Killthestory]

Performer track Hebi tonight, and I'll shoot SS in the event that Nero flips scum.

[Performer]

i think I've been playing one of my better games and I think this game is close to solved

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I don't see how we are close to being solved in the game, unless we get flips. We never got one lynch right in the game.

[hebichan]

Honestly, as long as KTS, Performer and I are alive, I don't care. Those are the three people I read super town, and obviously KTS is super confirmed and I would say I am town.

I don't mind being tracked tonight. I have nothing to hide.

[Something_Smart]

i think I've been playing one of my better games and I think this game is close to solved

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I don't see how we are close to being solved in the game, unless we get flips. We never got one lynch right in the game.

because of the conftowns and strong townreads... as long as you don't lynch Nero

[Killthestory]

I believe Slandaar is near confirmed town as well.

[Firebringer]

I am not feeling this game still tbh.
I could lynch Nero and Hebi, I think they both could be scum.
Lost on many other players.

[Killthestory]

I am not feeling this game still tbh.
I could lynch Nero and Hebi, I think they both could be scum.
Lost on many other players.

mm

[Nero Cain]

The Nero wagon is stupid and Lazy. When I flip town make sure Slandaar and Performer are dead.