Mini 1796 | May 13th - Game over (Tomato Mafia wins)

[JarJarDrinks]

oh maybe it wasn't. Someone quoted the VC. rereading.

[Transcend]

come to think of it, i don't even know if tommy/lowell had a single interaction this game.

i could be wrong, but i can't remember the top of my head any interactions they've had.

[inspectorscout]

*sigh* if we lynch lowell today, and if he flips green, are you guys finally going to listen to me?
if he flips red you are allowed to say im retarded and conservative lol

[Zachstralkita]

*sigh* if we lynch lowell today, and if he flips green, are you guys finally going to listen to me?
if he flips red you are allowed to say im retarded and conservative lol

no

PEDIT what is the logic of bussing when im newb and i ignored him?

In a situation where that action either helps you or hurts you, it helped you more than it hurt you.

[JarJarDrinks]

regardless of who we lynch, this day doesn't end w/o bacde claiming.

[Transcend]

Lowell analysis

Everything in this is good:

Done.

page 12, blue yoshi trying to pocket triv, triv not buying it
page 13, shotty obsesses over scumtells, doesn't like votes on him
page 15, tommy struggles to contribute, bacde arrives, does better
page 17, fading townread on transcend, guy looks twitchy, equivocal on votes
page 20, bacde tangles with jarjar, is town
page 22, alpaca enters w/ read list (meh), shotty debates mafia theory (meh)
page 23, big fan of transcend's 573

vote stands on

shotty

. he's tame as hell in ways I don't like

fos alpaca

I agree with transcend that his "reads list" post was contrived garbage. this is the post lurker-scum make to look like they're paying attention ever few pages. And let me tell you, I know a thing or two about lurkerscum.

fos jarjar

I'm sheeping bacde on this. Hard to put my finger on what's wrong with him, but something's just missing. Is ISO is like watching paint dry.

Strongest townreads:

bacde

, who from his entry has been clear and aggressive in ways I like.

dunn

, though I'm fading slightly on this one. I want to believe in the player who earned townpoints for the first dozen pages or so and not the one who has coasted since then.

transcend

, up and down on him, but I like his calling out alpaca's junkposts.

This was the first time he gave an opinion of Scout or JarJar:

I'm okay with both lead wagons. Which even as I write it sounds scummy, but here we are. VOTE: jarjar who seems more flailing of the two.

Yeah, it does sound pretty bad. And then he never gives any reasons for this scum-read until challenged directly, at which point he comes out with this:

That's a great question which I can't really answer. Somehow I've got it in my mind that you are, though. Am I being played or what?

Zach pushes him again, and he offers "It's a gut read."

Next he makes a decent case on Alpaca. I won't quote it here because it's long, but you can find it here.

I think this gives an insight into his playstyle:

Might I add, alpaca saying, of me, that "he doesn't seem too concerned with acting pro town," and calling that a

negative

, says much more about him than me.

When he's playing badly, it's semi-deliberate. He wants to give the impression that he doesn't care.

Don't like this:

Likewise, I'm getting a scumvibe from triv.

He follows it with some explanation, but doesn't address Trivium's town-slip, which I think is all you really need to read Trivium.

Overall, I think his time on the JarJar wagon looks bad, and that's the main issue with Lowell. He's an all right lynch candidate, but I hope I'll find better when I look into the others.

That was a lot of writing to say "neutral on Lowell"

Come lynch alpaca with me.

This is legitimately, LEGITIMATELY the only exchange that Lowell/Tommy have had this game.

[inspectorscout]

okay trans, thats true

coming back to zach's thing about me not interacting with tommy: just check his iso, at least 20% of it is trying to get me look bad, and i think i replied to him more than often.

so, general scumreads seem to be alpaca/lowell/bacde/me? if - going 100% transcend style - you put a gun to my head id say its lowell and alpaca OUT OF THESE 4 ONLY

[Transcend]

okay trans, thats true

coming back to zach's thing about me not interacting with tommy: just check his iso, at least 20% of it is trying to get me look bad, and i think i replied to him more than often.

so, general scumreads seem to be alpaca/lowell/bacde/me? if - going 100% transcend style - you put a gun to my head id say its lowell and alpaca OUT OF THESE 4 ONLY

i assume since you say OUTSIDE you still hold your fos on JJD.

pick one candidate out of the lowell/alpaca pool.

[inspectorscout]

VOTE: lowell

i really hope you guys arent wrong about this

[Transcend]

i probably don't need to ask that since you literally just got done saying that lowell would likely flip green

but uh perhaps your opinion changed on the opinions given about lowell

PEDIT: WHAT

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: lowell

i really hope you guys arent wrong about this

stop trying to shift responsibility on to us i didnt force your fucking hand to the vote and we're well early into the day


you acting with the crowd and not for yourself makes it very likely you are scum


at the same time I want lowell to die so carry o-

i probably don't need to ask that since you literally just got done saying that lowell would likely flip green

but uh perhaps your opinion changed on the opinions given about lowell

PEDIT: WHAT

*sigh* if we lynch lowell today, and if he flips green, are you guys finally going to listen to me?
if he flips red you are allowed to say im retarded and conservative lol

[inspectorscout]

Alpaca didnt say a lot lately but his tone still seems more town...i dunno i see him a bit like me tbh xd he isnt very good at this game either

and as i said i hope you are not wrong about this, but if 3 others are sure about him being scum who am i
but, i also said that his replies to your cases are pretty much bullshit

@zach yeah i should really go on pushing the jarjar wagon because everyone sees him as obv scum.

[Transcend]

is it bad that i want to l-1 him already

because he's had a pretty bad day today

and a pretty meh game over all

PEDIT: uh....................... that was the fastest 180 i've ever seen honestly.

[Zachstralkita]

PEDIT: uh....................... that was the fastest 180 i've ever seen honestly.

Alpaca didnt say a lot lately but his tone still seems more town...i dunno i see him a bit like me tbh xd he isnt very good at this game either

and as i said i hope you are not wrong about this, but if 3 others are sure about him being scum who am i
but, i also said that his replies to your cases are pretty much bullshit

@zach yeah i should really go on pushing the jarjar wagon because everyone sees him as obv scum.

your decisions are not mine.

[inspectorscout]

and what do you expect? ive been convinced about my trivium and jarjar scumreads but now triv is confirmed town and jarjar seems town to everyone except me.

where the hell do you want me to harvest other scum reads from? i am pretty sure you are town, i am (right now) pretty sure zach is town, i still think bacde isnt scum...then there arent many others left, are there?

[Transcend]

yeah okay let's spice the game up honestly.

VOTE: lowell

L-1 Claim now.

[Zachstralkita]

no one hammer or ith until after claim

[Transcend]

and yeah bacde needs to claim i think this is a democratic decision that doesn't really require votes.

[inspectorscout]

after claim from? only lowell or bacde too, like jar asked? or are we just gonna do a massclaim? what do you think is the best option and why?

Pedit lol

[inspectorscout]

also zach congratz on 2016th post you are very up to date

[Transcend]

i don't really know how mass works, but i think you do it on lylo.

lowell's the slot we all fos, and bacde is the slot that's made questionable softs, so i feel only they should claim as we'd probably be giving TOO MUCH information to scum if we had EVERYONE claim at this point.

[Zachstralkita]

after claim from? only lowell or bacde too, like jar asked? or are we just gonna do a massclaim? what do you think is the best option and why?

Pedit lol

I want Lowell to claim and I want Bacde to claim.

I wouldn't suggest a massclaim.

also zach congratz on 2016th post you are very up to date

guess im AHEAD OF THE TIMES NOW

[JarJarDrinks]

unfucking vote please. If Bacde is scum and Lowell is town then bacde quickhammers cause he's gonna get lynched next day regardless.

[JarJarDrinks]

I want Lowell to claim and I want Bacde to claim.

[Transcend]

UNVOTE:

okay fine

but lowell claims, and he claims now.

as well as bacde. claim now.