In post 45, Radical Rat wrote:This is Shiro's first post in the thread. What made you think they weren't reading Ircher?
I asked in the PT what they thought about Fure's discard claim. Shiro's response was along the lines of "Who Cares?", so I took that as not having read the main thread and why these circumstances makes Fire's attempt to get us massclaim discards a bit sketchy.In post 46, Ircher wrote:Clan PT
The issue was not whether the roles have bearing on alignment, but whether revealing them would be a good idea.In post 52, Shiro wrote:And I still think the same way.
Who cares? I made my pick based on character preference, Character pick and discards have no bearing on alignemnt imo
It is to create discussion material. I thought it would help us move forward without being in RVS that long, because I really really hate RVS. I want to get out of it as much as possible, and I think I have somewhat succeeded in these topics of discussion so that we aren't just randomly voting to start of with, which I enjoy more.In post 31, Masquerade wrote:Fire, what's your reasoning behind outing one of your discards? What was your goal with that? Because in our pt I felt you were town because of your hands-on approach of this game, but seeing you claim that discard, and then checking out what it is, makes me think you want us to think you are town a little too much. Do you want everybody to claim 1 discard? If not, what makes it so important that you share a discard and the rest does not?
This was never mentioned or covered in the chat. I wonder why.In post 39, Radical Rat wrote:VOTE: Fire Assassin
Thought he was sketchy in the Radiant chat, and like him even less here.
Inconsistency is scum, okay.In post 40, Radical Rat wrote:Points of suspicion are:
- Inconsistency
- Anti-Town sentiments ( Massclaiming early )
- LAMIST
This post is tongue in cheek but its got an attitude that is too 'jokingly' with me and it really kind of annoys me. Not because the player is just joking around, but because he is seems to be looking for other places to put his vote on. His comments overall are limited. Not so sure on this slot, might be town, but not really happy with posts to date.In post 41, Dunnstral wrote:Pretty much expectedIn post 33, Ircher wrote:The Dire neighborhood is dead silent
Perhaps they were busy talking in their scum chat, instead?
Also Racical's vote here is ew as he has to overexplain it but wasn't actually there in the pre-game chat
This can be pro town or pro scum.In post 44, Radical Rat wrote:Before we get too far along, I'd like to politely request that the Survivor come forward. You don't have to if you're scared, but I see no reason why either side should kill a Survivor.
And scum: don't even think about faking. I will find out, and you will be lynched.
You were not part of the consensus at all, and you are just piggybacking off other people.In post 53, Radical Rat wrote:The issue was not whether the roles have bearing on alignment, but whether revealing them would be a good idea.In post 52, Shiro wrote:And I still think the same way.
Who cares? I made my pick based on character preference, Character pick and discards have no bearing on alignemnt imo
The general consensus is that we should not.
No, it isn't.In post 51, Ircher wrote:Scratch that, Survivor wins with either alignment.
Ok, you're suggestion is fine.
Please explain. Survivor can win with either faction, so I think it's ok for them to claim.In post 56, Fire Assassin wrote:No, it isn't.In post 51, Ircher wrote:Scratch that, Survivor wins with either alignment.
Ok, you're suggestion is fine.
Survivor should 100% not claim.
Same reason survivor shouldn't claim in a normal game.In post 57, Ircher wrote:Please explain. Survivor can win with either faction, so I think it's ok for them to claim.
That first bit is actually a decent argument, though the second part is just a dick move if you ask me.In post 58, Fire Assassin wrote:Same reason survivor shouldn't claim in a normal game.In post 57, Ircher wrote:Please explain. Survivor can win with either faction, so I think it's ok for them to claim.
If survivor claims they are 100% not getting NKed. That means a town is always going to die to it.
Survivor might also suffer a lynch just so we don't mislynch town too (this has happened so many times its no funny), so theres the points to convince you Survivor to not claim.
I gave away one of my discards. I don't know how that leads to a mass claim in anyway shape or form. You are making either a slippery slope argument or some how revealing 10 roles out of 30 that aren't in the game creates some effect where everyones roles are revealed [I can make up stupid logic too!]In post 60, Radical Rat wrote:You were suggesting a massclaim of the discards, which after discussion you even agreed was Anti-Town. Yet you tried to start it anyway.
As for LAMIST it means "Look At Me I'm So Town"
I didn't post it on the clan chat because I WASN'T THERE. I made one post an hour before the game was scheduled to start when I had barely enough signal to get on my browser, and one more this morning before I moved to the game thread.
As for the Survivor, how does that mean one less Town can die at night? We're going to have 7 Town whether the Survivor claims or not.
If they claim I will 100% push them.In post 63, Ircher wrote:It is however to the survivors win con to claim, since the survivor must actually be alive
I did READ the thread. I just wasn't there to actually participate in the discussion. I still saw the posts and can have opinions on them.In post 62, Fire Assassin wrote:I gave away one of my discards. I don't know how that leads to a mass claim in anyway shape or form. You are making either a slippery slope argument or some how revealing 10 roles out of 30 that aren't in the game creates some effect where everyones roles are revealed [I can make up stupid logic too!]In post 60, Radical Rat wrote:You were suggesting a massclaim of the discards, which after discussion you even agreed was Anti-Town. Yet you tried to start it anyway.
As for LAMIST it means "Look At Me I'm So Town"
I didn't post it on the clan chat because I WASN'T THERE. I made one post an hour before the game was scheduled to start when I had barely enough signal to get on my browser, and one more this morning before I moved to the game thread.
As for the Survivor, how does that mean one less Town can die at night? We're going to have 7 Town whether the Survivor claims or not.
If thats what lamist means, its pretty stupid term. Never heard a player say it I think. Weird.
Yes, you weren't there is my point. And not saying "Ohh you aren't there so you are scum" its the fact that you act like you were there thats the problem. You act as if you were part of the decision to say "lets not discard" but you weren't. You can't have it both ways. You either were there or you weren't.
If survivor doesn't claim they are susceptible to a night death.
If thr claim is true, then you're basically giving mafia an extra night to kill.In post 64, Fire Assassin wrote:If they claim I will 100% push them.In post 63, Ircher wrote:It is however to the survivors win con to claim, since the survivor must actually be alive
Where do you come up with this kind of logic if I may ask?In post 67, Ircher wrote:If thr claim is true, then you're basically giving mafia an extra night to kill.In post 64, Fire Assassin wrote:If they claim I will 100% push them.In post 63, Ircher wrote:It is however to the survivors win con to claim, since the survivor must actually be alive
Exactly.In post 68, Fire Assassin wrote:Where do you come up with this kind of logic if I may ask?In post 67, Ircher wrote:If thr claim is true, then you're basically giving mafia an extra night to kill.In post 64, Fire Assassin wrote:If they claim I will 100% push them.In post 63, Ircher wrote:It is however to the survivors win con to claim, since the survivor must actually be alive
If we mislynch we gave scum an extra night kill with this own logic.
They'd be kingmaker except they win regardless in that situation.In post 69, Radical Rat wrote:I will 100% oppose a Survivor lynch.
They could be a swing vote in lylo that may very well save this Town
Granted they could just as easily end us, but having them alive would give us that chance at surviving a critically low Town population.
