Mini 1806 : DotA Mafia [Round 1 - SD] (Game Over ?!)

[Vedith]

Cuz I think both of them are inactive; I just said that

View on Shiro speaking in the Dire forum and not here?

[Fire Assassin]

If this game doesn't start picking up speed. I may just go for a apathetic policy lynch on Snarky.
But seriously guys. You all should be putting more into this game. Frozen put in a lot of time developing it and for it to become a total lurkfest it is basically at is disgusting.

[thenewearth]

There isn't really alot to go on about now, is there?

[Ircher]

Cuz I think both of them are inactive; I just said that

View on Shiro speaking in the Dire forum and not here?

I'm not sure. The talk in the Dire neighborhood so far has been unhelpful and Yume might not be scum. And, Shiro did stop talking when you called Shiro out.

I'd prob. put Snarky as #1 scumread then Shiro then Yume then Fire right now.

[Vedith]

There isn't really alot to go on about now, is there?

There's only little to go on if you aren't looking for it.

[Fire Assassin]

I told you disclose discards and we can talk about them more. It generates SOME discussion material.
I discarded naga siren because I thought its abilities had the least town utility out of all my hero picks.

Mirror Image and Song of Siren seem only for scum roles. and Ensare didn't seem worth it compared to those anti town functions.

[Vedith]

I'm not sure. The talk in the Dire neighborhood so far has been unhelpful and Yume might not be scum. And, Shiro did stop talking when you called Shiro out.

I'd prob. put Snarky as #1 scumread then Shiro then Yume then Fire right now.

I expect it gain more use after the day 1 lynch.
I'm not against voting any of those 3. I wouldn't vote Fire yet though.

[Fire Assassin]

I'm not sure. The talk in the Dire neighborhood so far has been unhelpful and Yume might not be scum. And, Shiro did stop talking when you called Shiro out.

I'd prob. put Snarky as #1 scumread then Shiro then Yume then Fire right now.

I expect it gain more use after the day 1 lynch.
I'm not against voting any of those 3. I wouldn't vote Fire yet though.

These are some of the scummy stuff I remember Town!Vedith would post often. It read as such opportunistic to do.

[Vedith]

I told you disclose discards and we can talk about them more. It generates SOME discussion material.
I discarded naga siren because I thought its abilities had the least town utility out of all my hero picks.

Mirror Image and Song of Siren seem only for scum roles. and Ensare didn't seem worth it compared to those anti town functions.

If it helps, I have no idea what card I discarded.
I was looking into this further last night. And an additional reason why I think revealing this information is bad is because of the passives.
I can see that you want to get discussion going, but this isn't the way.

[Fire Assassin]

I told you disclose discards and we can talk about them more. It generates SOME discussion material.
I discarded naga siren because I thought its abilities had the least town utility out of all my hero picks.

Mirror Image and Song of Siren seem only for scum roles. and Ensare didn't seem worth it compared to those anti town functions.

If it helps, I have no idea what card I discarded.
I was looking into this further last night. And an additional reason why I think revealing this information is bad is because of the passives.
I can see that you want to get discussion going, but this isn't the way.

Don't tell me what is the way. I am the town head here!

[Masquerade]

@Vedith: The games I played lately with Shiro in it she hasn't been active. I think I have an idea on how to figure out her alignment but I'd rather keep it to myself until I get a stronger read on her.
Why do you think 1 scum is quiet, why not both or neither? That just looks to me like you are trying to move into lynching one of the lurkers. Who of the inactives is scum? You can't tell because all of them haven't posted enough to get a decent read on them. So your statement is empty. I mean, I'm more than willing to vote one of the lurkers for pressure, but to say one of them must be scum because of the gamestate feels off to me.
And then you say you suspect Newearth and Radical, both of whom are not inactive lurkers.

@Fire: The discarded roles won't tell us much I'm afraid. Sure, there is something to be said about the motivation of discarding those particular roles, but that doesn't mean much when you don't know what role was picked. We already decided we're not outing discards so scum can't narrow down what pr's are in the game. It's time we stop talking theory and start talking about reads, pushing inactive players to post their reads as well.

VOTE: Snarky
Mostly because I've seen him be wagoned before so his reaction will tell me most.

[Fire Assassin]

Why do you think you will actually get a reaction from him?
In all honesty I don't think snarky react in any way to pressure to ever give me a better read.

[Vedith]

@Vedith: The games I played lately with Shiro in it she hasn't been active. I think I have an idea on how to figure out her alignment but I'd rather keep it to myself until I get a stronger read on her.
Why do you think 1 scum is quiet, why not both or neither? That just looks to me like you are trying to move into lynching one of the lurkers. Who of the inactives is scum? You can't tell because all of them haven't posted enough to get a decent read on them. So your statement is empty. I mean, I'm more than willing to vote one of the lurkers for pressure, but to say one of them must be scum because of the gamestate feels off to me.
And then you say you suspect Newearth and Radical, both of whom are not inactive lurkers.

Fair enough, when I last played Shiro was pretty active in most games.
As it stands, there's no direction to someone overall appearing as scum. This highly suggests to me that scum are having input. If someone is inactive, they won't be having any input at all.
Why can't both be active? Well they can. I've stated my reasons why I believe someone is inactive, as it's too much of an opportunity at this point.
I've also made it clear that Radical is in my mix for voting, so your theory on me moving to just the lurkers is invalid (which you even counter yourself in the comment).
I'm also not saying that if we eliminate the lurkers we will find scum, so don't mis understand my thoughts with that situation.

I was actually giving an example to how TNE could be partnered with Radical. I suggest you re read my comments about Radical and TNE and then show me where I am saying that they are both Mafia without question.

I do question though, why you are voting someone to add pressure which won't work anyway, instead of voting on someone you believe to be pushing votes in different directions or not voting someone that feels off to you to apply pressure.

[Shiro]

And, Shiro did stop talking when you called Shiro out.

I did? I am pretty sure I was just mot around at the time, jeez

[Shiro]

Like legit, facts are facts. I called radian the enemy because lo and behold, dota wise they are. Mechanically this is reflected by us getting lvls if we kill them.

Scum are also my enemy,They are the big bad to win the game. hopefully all of them are Radiant ^_^

[Masquerade]

@Fire: Please see pt.

[Fire Assassin]

Scum are also my enemy,They are the big bad to win the game. hopefully all of them are Radiant ^_^

Nice try Mister Shiro, I know you are the leader of the Dire Scum Team.

[Vedith]

So, this is going pretty well.

[Dunnstral]

Shiro what do you think of the game so far though

[Shiro]

Obv truth. The dire need true leadership and I can provide it.

There is only one thing that makes right.



P.edit

I think fire is town aaaaand that is about it. I guess mild town read on Vedith as well.

[Ircher]

Why dont we share what's going on in the neighborhoods?

[Ircher]

(By we, I mean

*ALL*1/b] of us; everyone should give a recap of what's happened so far in the clan PT regardless if someone else has already done so from the same clan.)

[Vedith]

Well, in the Dire PT - Yume is silent, Snarky is silent, Shiro is the hero we want, not need. (I'm watching you Shiro ) Ircher isn't scum.

That's all in the Dire forum so far.

UNVOTE: Shiro
VOTE: Snarky

0 effort to participate (Same as Yume)
Getting rid of a silent scum is better than an active scum, as an active scum will most likely mess up.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: Snarky

Choo choo?

Not sure what to make of Vedith right now

[Vedith]

Not sure what to make of Vedith right now

He's town... I shouldn't really let this information out, but mod told me that he's town.