Mini 1806 : DotA Mafia [Round 1 - SD] (Game Over ?!)

[Ircher]

Ircher's Summary of Dire Chat

:

1. I begin asking if they're town (since it's my words, I can state them directly: "Are you guys town?")
2. Shiro and Yume basically say "Hi".
3. We talk about scumhunting in the neighborhood and I mention it is theoretically possible for neither of the mafia to be in Dire clan.
4. Snarky asks if we're all town or scum.
5. The rest of pg 1 is pretty much filled with posts from Nos (who got replaced for some reason by Vedith)

6. I ask the neighborhood what they think about Fire's discard claim.
7. Shiro, missing the point completely (hence my not reading comment) responds with a "Who cares?" statement
8. Vedith says it's useless to claim discards without majority consent.
9. Vedith also quotes Snarky's earlier question and asks how we all of us can be scum if Snarky is town.
10. The conversation shifts to talking about lynching the other faction and pros/cons.
11. Shiro states Fire is town.
12. Vedith states that it is more likely from their point of view for the Radiant Clan to be scum.
13. Vedith recovers when questioned by me by stating he was only thinking of Radical Rat (I guess typo?) Also throws shade on Shiro's comment that Radiant is Dire's enemy.

[Vedith]

Just to clarify, I never once said Radiant Clan.
I said I think Radiant is scum (Meaning Radical)

[Dunnstral]

I'm no criminal forensics expert but I believe there's at least 1 mafia in Dire clan based on the above passage

[Radical Rat]

I'll be honest, I just half-read the last page, but I think a Shiro wagon has more merit than a Snarky wagon. Snarky showed up and just said hi, yes, but that to me indicates that he actually hasn't read anything yet and is just trying to prod dodge.
Shiro on the other hand, showed up as soon as we started talking about/voting her, then vanished again. I'd like to drag her back out, so...

VOTE: Shiro

@Vedith's thing about waiting to see my response
From what I can tell, the suspicion on me is that I wanted a Survivor to claim, which I have already conceded Might hurt Town when Fire pointed it out. My original statement came from simply wanting to help the Survivor, with the goal of getting the Town in their good graces should they live to LyLo. I've already said all of that, but that's all there is to say.

@TheNewEarth ( Caps for readability )
What was going through your head during the argument with Fire? You were both saying the exact same thing, so what did you think Fire was saying at the time?

[Dunnstral]

Just to clarify, I never once said Radiant Clan.
I said I think Radiant is scum (Meaning Radical)

OK. That was actually something I was looking at as really bad

[Vedith]

Just to clarify, I never once said Radiant Clan.
I said I think Radiant is scum (Meaning Radical)

OK. That was actually something I was looking at as really bad

I also questioned if there was actually a benefit for us voting your clan scum instead of our clan scum.
I'm still unsure to the answer.

[Dunnstral]

You level up

[Radical Rat]

Personally, I would vote the opposing clan's scum first, just because of the leveling up.

[Dunnstral]

basically from the rules, at level 1 you can rank 1 ability, at level 2 you get a second, and the third comes at level 4

if you are an intelligence character, yous tart at level 2 already

[Dunnstral]

No. We're not lynching the opposing clan just to level up, that's idiotic. We're lynching whoever is most likely to be scum individually.

[Dunnstral]

Just to clarify, I never once said Radiant Clan.
I said I think Radiant is scum (Meaning Radical)

OK. That was actually something I was looking at as really bad

I also questioned if there was actually a benefit for us voting your clan scum instead of our clan scum.
I'm still unsure to the answer.

Why are you assuming that each clan has 1 scum member?

[Vedith]

You level up

Hmmm, I don't really like that mind set from people.
I guess Shiro's comment makes sense now though.
So the entire team gets a level for it? If so, then we should vote different a clan each day unless evidence or reason is given.
Otherwise we can risk on making the Mafia stronger (keeping in mind it's possible to have 3 non town in the clan).

[Vedith]

Why are you assuming that each clan has 1 scum member?

Show me where I said it does?

[Radical Rat]

No. We're not lynching the opposing clan just to level up, that's idiotic. We're lynching whoever is most likely to be scum individually.

I meant if we had two scumspects, with one on each clan, as is the scenario put forth by Vedith, I'd vote the Dire Scumspect.

[Vedith]

I meant if we had two scumspects, with one on each clan, as is the scenario put forth by Vedith, I'd vote the Dire Scumspect.

But going into that mind set it will be a stale mate of voting.

[Radical Rat]

Why are you assuming that each clan has 1 scum member?

Show me where I said it does?

Just to clarify, I never once said Radiant Clan.
I said I think Radiant is scum (Meaning Radical)

OK. That was actually something I was looking at as really bad

I also questioned if there was actually a benefit for us voting

your clan scum

instead of

our clan scum

.
I'm still unsure to the answer.

[Vedith]

That was a fucking example
I never said that there are Mafia on each side.

[Radical Rat]

I meant if we had two scumspects, with one on each clan, as is the scenario put forth by Vedith, I'd vote the Dire Scumspect.

But going into that mind set it will be a stale mate of voting.

Only if the clans were equal at the time it happens. Which is unlikely to be the case except on D1.

[Vedith]

Only if the clans were equal at the time it happens. Which is unlikely to be the case except on D1.

So what you are saying is if we vote of someone from Dire now, then your clan can have full power of voting.
Where does that interest me in voting off a Dire clan member without proof?

[Dunnstral]

If so, then we should vote different a clan each day unless evidence or reason is given.

No.

[Vedith]

If so, then we should vote different a clan each day unless evidence or reason is given.

No.

Then you're stupid if you want to keep voting the same side off.

[Dunnstral]

We should vote who we think is mafia each day, not our second best gues who happens to be on the other clan side

[Dunnstral]

If so, then we should vote different a clan each day unless evidence or reason is given.

No.

Then you're stupid if you want to keep voting the same side off.

If I think scum is on the other side, why would I lynch this side and give scum more abilities...?

[Dunnstral]

A clarification

Your heroes don't know any abilities unless you ask me to learn them. At levels 1 , 2 , 4 and 6 you may ask me to learn a specific ability. I will repeatedly remind your level and the abilities you may learn at the start of each cycle or whenever you level up. for learning a new ability please send me a

Private Messsage

including the name(s) of ability(es) you wanna learn whenever you can learn them. (I mean don't make a list for me about the abilities you wanna learn later in game!)

You don't know any abilities unless I send you a confirmation with title "

New found wisdom :

" with the ability titles.

I won't accept any other ways of communication like skype chat or site chat for consistency and logging game events correctly.

[Vedith]

We should vote who we think is mafia each day, not our second best gues who happens to be on the other clan side

Did you fail to read my evidence or reason part of the comment?