Mini 1800 - Game Over

[Titus]

Math just obvtowned with that comment about lynching those who don't care.

Why unvote Mecha?

I don't want Magna. Don't think they are scum.

Person and Mecha = Great Lynches
Dierfire = Acceptable

Masq any reason you're townreading Dier? If you cannot read him and cannot trust others to, well...that's permanent nullstate. That doesn't work for me.

[MathBlade]

Excuse me there are not enough walls for me to bang my head on here.

1) You can't read Dierfire so you do nothing with the slot. You don't poke them don't ask them questions or anything.
2) You then vote Karnos because you want "clarity on the slot".

I can understand being confused, hell I can understand wanting pressure on Karnos as that is the same thing I want too.
What I cannot for the life of me understand what you would do is when you have equal clarity around the slot you vote for the claimed Neopolitan instead of shoring up your Dierfire read. What I don't buy is that you in that position would vote a claimed Neopolitan who is a null read over Dierfire who is a null read.

In fact in 683 you said you didn't want to vote Karnos unless there was mod confirmable evidence they were scum or a CC. A CC hasn't been done and if anything the majority opinion is that Karnos is telling the truth.

Explain your reads. Now.

[MathBlade]

Math just obvtowned with that comment about lynching those who don't care.

Why unvote Mecha?

I don't want Magna. Don't think they are scum.

Person and Mecha = Great Lynches
Dierfire = Acceptable

Masq any reason you're townreading Dier? If you cannot read him and cannot trust others to, well...that's permanent nullstate. That doesn't work for me.

So much derp ugh.

Masq said they can't read Dierfire which means null read.
Person is anyone I am guessing you mean Persivul? Why?

Like Mecha and Persivul are obv townie to me. If I am wrong prove it. Don't just fucking spam.

[MathBlade]

I am seriously debating Titus/Masquerade/Dierfire here as the scum team.

Masquerade pumps the words I want to hear after Titus comes in the game and probably tells her to do it. Then they think Dierfire is an acceptable bus casualty.

[MathBlade]

Yeah Dierfire has Masquerade as a null read too as a part of their ongoing "reads project" and they never vote each other once. Like how the hell are you going to ever move the other person if you don't do anything with it?

VOTE: Dierfire

This needs more pokes.

[MathBlade]

Going to get my car looked at.

[Saru]

Will have my reads list out by tomorrow. Been busier than I thought this weekend.

[MechaGoomba]

Seems to be written from a Karnos is known town perspective.

Claim, no result, noob
Dude is obvtown yo.

You're really reaching.

What I cannot for the life of me understand what you would do is when you have equal clarity around the slot you vote for the claimed Neopolitan instead of shoring up your Dierfire read. What I don't buy is that you in that position would vote a claimed Neapolitan who is a null read over Dierfire who is a null read.

In fact in 683 you said you didn't want to vote Karnos unless there was mod confirmable evidence they were scum or a CC. A CC hasn't been done and if anything the majority opinion is that Karnos is telling the truth.

This is pretty worrying, yeah. I'm a bit confused about Masq's day 1 vanilla claim, though. I mean, scum claiming VT when they know there's a Neapolitan is a really risky play.

[MathBlade]

That brings be back to my D1 suspicion of Karnos/Masq/Dierfire and would explain why Masq wasn't checked. Or it could be Titus scum and that masquerade's claim was a gambit and Masq thought they could use bravado to get out of the shitty hammer.

[MathBlade]

Either way Masq and Dierfire seem content to not red each other at all.

[qubixes]

Will get to this game at some point I hope. At least it seems not much has happened the last couple of days...

[Masquerade]

Yeah sure this can be scum

VOTE: Dierfire

[MathBlade]

Yeah sure this can be scum

VOTE: Dierfire

Why? Why do you think Dierfire can be scum?

[Masquerade]

Well I skimmed most of his iso but what stood out is that he was scumreading Mizzy when she wasn't posting anymore but before I replaced her, and after I came in Dier hasn't been able to commit to a read on me anymore. Other than that he's mostly been picking at inactive players and today he scumreads Saru but votes the bigger wagon. In a nutshell.
I also still think Magna could be scum, but I should reread him again because I forget what he said about Dierfire.
So I checked and there is no read.

Magna, what's your read on Dierfire?

[MathBlade]

Will get to this game at some point I hope. At least it seems not much has happened the last couple of days...

Well I skimmed most of his iso but what stood out is that he was scumreading Mizzy when she wasn't posting anymore but before I replaced her, and after I came in Dier hasn't been able to commit to a read on me anymore. Other than that he's mostly been picking at inactive players and today he scumreads Saru but votes the bigger wagon. In a nutshell.
I also still think Magna could be scum, but I should reread him again because I forget what he said about Dierfire.
So I checked and there is no read.

Magna, what's your read on Dierfire?

Okay then why did you have him as couldn't read before if you saw all the scummy reasons you are voting him for now?

[MathBlade]

Grrrr bad phone
@Quibixes
We playing the same game?
Titus replaced Kappy
Masquerade looks to be lynch shopping
Found a duo that refuses to read each other (Masq and Dierfire)
And potential scum teams are emerging
So yeah I think a lot has happened.

Unless you don't think this counts as a lot?

[Masquerade]

Because I haven't been focussing on Dierfire lately.

[MathBlade]

Why not?

[Masquerade]

Because I was focusing on other people and I can only do so much at a time.

[MathBlade]

When why not ever talk to Dierfire? Focus I understand. But never asking a single question except one you don't follow on and not taking a stand needs more explanation.

[Firebringer]

V/LA till the sixth because family and vacation and mafia sucks, etc, etc.

[qubixes]

Grrrr bad phone
@Quibixes
We playing the same game?
Titus replaced Kappy
Masquerade looks to be lynch shopping
Found a duo that refuses to read each other (Masq and Dierfire)
And potential scum teams are emerging
So yeah I think a lot has happened.

Unless you don't think this counts as a lot?

Most of that happened (already) before I was gone. Dierfire did read mizzy (masq slot) in 494. It seems unlikely to me that he would go out of his way to cast shade on a teammate that is widely town read. Do you disagree? Which scum teams are you referring to?

qubixes -- Strong Town lean -- Post

175

-- I think qubixes is spot on with the Persuval v Sick discussion. [...]

For Quibixes it would be

175

-- It feels fake. [...]

Why the change of heart?

[Dierfire]

I'm dodging the prod and returning within 12 hours.

[karnos]

Me too, possibly won't be able to post today at all, family stuff for the 4th, though I might get some time late in the evening.

I

will

be able to catch-up and post tomorrow morning before day deadline. I generally have more time to play during the work week, and the holiday has made this weekend especially busy.

[karnos]

Wow, brain fart there, I copy/pasted my message from another game. Ignore the thing about day deadline, I know it's not even close.