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[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 1.10 Northern Quoll

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Lynching

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

A Simple Plan

(L-3): Vedith, hiplop, Raskolnikov, dwlee99

The_Jester

(L-5):

MURDERCAT,

Robbnva, Killthestory

Vedith

(L-5): Shadow_Step, The_Jester

dwlee99

(L-6): Bellaphant

hiplop

(L-6): Dragon of the West

Shadow_Step

(L-6): A Simple Plan

Dragon of the West

(L-6): MURDERCAT

Robbnva

(L-7): The_Jester

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[Dragon of the West]

Reading up a bit as I can; day trip yesterday left me more exhausted than I thought. I'm at the VC on page 7.

@Vedith, re 128: my vote is a reflection of who I was most suspicious of. I said I understood Shadow's vote on you, not that I automatically think he's town because of a decent vote. I still don't like that he changed votes in RVS without an explanation; it's hard to read confidently as a second RVS or a motivated vote, and in my experience, RVS trains usually see scum jumping on. It reads a vote to try to force towncred.

Wait, I'm dumb. Wasn't shadow's argument. But regardless ASP said here it was more than a simple RVS vote

[Dragon of the West]

Reading up a bit as I can; day trip yesterday left me more exhausted than I thought. I'm at the VC on page 7.

@Vedith, re 128: my vote is a reflection of who I was most suspicious of. I said I understood Shadow's vote on you, not that I automatically think he's town because of a decent vote. I still don't like that he changed votes in RVS without an explanation; it's hard to read confidently as a second RVS or a motivated vote, and in my experience, RVS trains usually see scum jumping on. It reads a vote to try to force towncred.

Wait, I'm dumb. Wasn't shadow's argument. But regardless ASP said here it was more than a simple RVS vote

God damnit. This is why I should just respond as I read rather than read everything and then go back. I just realized Shadow's argument about it being RVS and ASP's clarification were not in the order i thought they were

[Dragon of the West]

I'm a spiritual lyrical individual spiritual miracle lyrical individual spiritual miracle individual

This is absurd

[hiplop]

is it really as easy as murdercat/a simple plan

[MURDERCAT]

nope

[hiplop]

reads list, murdercat?

[Dragon of the West]

Show just ended but phone is at 1% Don't see much so far besides a bunch of NAI shitposting

All fluff from him and 5 pages in he has no reads. I don't think I love the ASP wagon, tbh.

Yeah I wasn't around this weekend enough to read thoroughly and make intelligent cases. That's why I was VLA

[Robbnva]

reads list, murdercat?

Why would you want anyone to make a reads list. Those are really a waste of time and kind of antitown

[Killthestory]

I'm a spiritual lyrical individual spiritual miracle lyrical individual spiritual miracle individual

This is absurd

Absurdly good

[MURDERCAT]

{}
{Bella, hip, dwlee, rask, KTS, Robb}
{Jester, vedith, ASP}
{nacho, dragon, shadow}
{}

All gut leans, sorry.

Pedit: UNVOTE:

VOTE: Nacho

I disagree, I don't mind making one.

[hiplop]

reads list, murdercat?

Why would you want anyone to make a reads list. Those are really a waste of time and kind of antitown

just MURDERCAT

[MURDERCAT]

Nacho for fluffing and not coming back.
Dragon hasn't really done anything.
Shadow is just antagonistic maybe, I don't know I have to meta him, but something about it feels fake. Who cares so much so early?

Bella - probably doesn't naked vote
hip - town by default, advancing the game state at least
dwlee - gut
rask - I liked the tone in 238
KTS - weird shit seems towny, why does scum draw attention like that
Robb - had a few townie posts I liked

[Dragon of the West]

This goes is no particular order, just listing things I think after catching up:
Reading KTS at this point is terrible. Just going through his ISO of personas and talking to himself is frustrating to no end. I don't think it's AI, per se, but it isn't pro town.
Murdercat is my strongest townread for his active hunting, questioning, and just play in general
Rask is a townlean. 162-164 felt like natural thoughts on the game
I don't have a problem with ASP agreeing with a read the person he had his vote on made.
Hiplop is a null/townlean for me
Don't think the jester wagon hit scum, but I'm glad he's now posted. I agree that a lot of people at this point are nullreads
That being said I'm gonna hop on the nacho action in hopes we can get some more people out of the null zone
VOTE: Nacho [/nacho]

[Dragon of the West]

Nacho for fluffing and not coming back.
Dragon hasn't really done anything.
Shadow is just antagonistic maybe, I don't know I have to meta him, but something about it feels fake. Who cares so much so early?

Bella - probably doesn't naked vote
hip - town by default, advancing the game state at least
dwlee - gut
rask - I liked the tone in 238
KTS - weird shit seems towny, why does scum draw attention like that
Robb - had a few townie posts I liked

The point on KTS seems subject to WIFOM

[Dragon of the West]

This goes is no particular order, just listing things I think after catching up:
Reading KTS at this point is terrible. Just going through his ISO of personas and talking to himself is frustrating to no end. I don't think it's AI, per se, but it isn't pro town.
Murdercat is my strongest townread for his active hunting, questioning, and just play in general
Rask is a townlean. 162-164 felt like natural thoughts on the game
I don't have a problem with ASP agreeing with a read the person he had his vote on made.
Hiplop is a null/townlean for me
Don't think the jester wagon hit scum, but I'm glad he's now posted. I agree that a lot of people at this point are nullreads
That being said I'm gonna hop on the nacho action in hopes we can get some more people out of the null zone
VOTE: Nacho [/nacho]

LOL VOTE: Nacho what can I say, I'm really hungry

[Dragon of the West]

whyyyyyy

[Dragon of the West]

VOTE: nacho something is being wonky with my quoting

[Killthestory]

You're face is subject to WIFOM.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Nacho [/nacho]

I'm dying

[Dwlee99]

Okay hey vacation posting raskol probtown still think asp is scum not really sure what to make of dragon's catchup cause he kinda responded to random things

[Bellaphant]

I hated the signature quote thing from dwlee, hence the vote. Feeling less aggrieved by the slot now but worth remembering.

I think murder could be town and the asp wagon is bad.

Going back to this

VOTE: dragon of the west

have more confidence in my not really rvs.

[Dwlee99]

I hated the signature quote thing from dwlee, hence the vote. Feeling less aggrieved by the slot now but worth remembering.

I think murder could be town and the asp wagon is bad.

Going back to this

VOTE: dragon of the west

have more confidence in my not really rvs.

Hiplop never answered my question
Pretty much I interpreted the post by Hiplop as: "Robb says this but they are doing the opposite" which felt like a really bad post and I was trying to figure out if that was what Hiplop meant but he never said so

[Nachomamma8]

I want to hypo results this game. Thinking out loud, wanted to do this all at once but it seems the longer I put it off until I have a significant chunk of time the longer I put off the game in general.

Explicitly Normal Investigative Roles:
Cop, Follower, Gunsmith, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Motion Detector, Neopolitan, Rolecop, Tracker, Vanilla Cop, Watcher

I don't think Rolecop should need to crumb their results.
Follower's results can be in the form of: Informative, Protective, Manipulative, Killing, Miscellaneous
Jailkeeper crumbs aren't important until 1 scum left
Tracker results are in the form of Person A --> Person B
Watcher results are in the form of Person B --> People Targeting.
JOAT needs to specify when they're using their investigative.

Hypoing format would be as simple (or complicated) as

N1 Murdercat Positive Vedith, Dragon of the West.
JOAT first investigative action.

If the player flipped cop/gunsmith, Murdercat would be scum (Target was murdercat, result was negative so "mafia" or "gun"). If Motion Detector, it would mean that motion was detected. If follower, it would mean that Murdercat used a protective action (Vedith is the second on the playerlist, "Protective" is the second follower option. If tracker, it would mean that Murdercat was seen following around Vedith. If watcher, it would mean that Dragon of the West and Vedith were seen targeting Murdercat. If JOAT, it would mean that the JOAT did use their investigative and thus the first investigative result listed in the role would count (so if JOAT flips Roleblocker, Cop, Tracker then it means that he used his cop and found Murdercat to be scum). If Vanilla Cop or Neapolitan, Murdercat would have returned Vanilla.

No, this is not all I plan on doing.

[Dwlee99]

What