Mini 1804: Poker Mafia (Game Over)

[Something_Smart]

I think I understand the BBT kill. It strikes me as kind of a "don't rock the boat" kill, to eliminate a strong player who hadn't really contributed much this far.
It reminds me of the droog kill in this game.
And I think what it suggests is that town's collective reads are way off, as they were in that game. I'm very disappointed that my MM/FA theory didn't end up being true, and I think that flip means that MM is town too. I definitely want to take a closer look at farside once again.

@Shadow: if only one person wins a hand in any given day, they will be bulletproof the following night. That's the mechanic that Fire wants to (ab)use by throwing hands to townreads.

[The MM]

I think I understand the BBT kill. It strikes me as kind of a "don't rock the boat" kill, to eliminate a strong player who hadn't really contributed much this far.
It reminds me of the droog kill in this game.
And I think what it suggests is that town's collective reads are way off, as they were in that game. I'm very disappointed that my MM/FA theory didn't end up being true, and I think that flip means that MM is town too. I definitely want to take a closer look at farside once again.

@Shadow: if only one person wins a hand in any given day, they will be bulletproof the following night. That's the mechanic that Fire wants to (ab)use by throwing hands to townreads.

Are you meaning that we should look at the reads made during day 1 and take them completely opposite? Who didn't even get real votes on? Who looks in control?

[Shadow_step]

I think I understand the BBT kill. It strikes me as kind of a "don't rock the boat" kill, to eliminate a strong player who hadn't really contributed much this far.
It reminds me of the droog kill in this game.
And I think what it suggests is that town's collective reads are way off, as they were in that game. I'm very disappointed that my MM/FA theory didn't end up being true, and I think that flip means that MM is town too. I definitely want to take a closer look at farside once again.

@Shadow: if only one person wins a hand in any given day, they will be bulletproof the following night. That's the mechanic that Fire wants to (ab)use by throwing hands to townreads.

I see that being useful in a situation where we have a non CCed town PR. Otherwise I don't see much use in making one person win all the hands just to make them bulletproof for a night.

[Shadow_step]

Fold

I need to think about a few things before I vote.

This is a very self conscious post.

You didn't want to vote anyone....yeah okay, but why do you feel the need to say that..?

[The MM]

Self-consciousness isn't a scumtell though.
If I didn't have a lane to vote for, I'd be doing the same. Farside's next post better be convincing tho.

[lane0168]

Wait, why did I vote something_smart?

VOTE: the mm

Why aren't you dead? You had a lot of money

[lane0168]

Did it look like shadow was going to really more? He said he was reading, and went straight for intent to hammer and had time to talk . I'm not letting a replacement in that spot get a hammer. The day has gone on long enough.

What do you think shadow would've said that he couldn't say today? Or that would change the lynch? Nothing.

Plus you're probably scum so I'm not sure why I expect your case to make sense

[Fire Assassin]

I see that being useful in a situation where we have a non CCed town PR. Otherwise I don't see much use in making one person win all the hands just to make them bulletproof for a night.

Ewww no, it doesn't matter if they have a power role. You asking for a power role like this is kind of scummy.

[Fire Assassin]

I think I understand the BBT kill. It strikes me as kind of a "don't rock the boat" kill, to eliminate a strong player who hadn't really contributed much this far.
It reminds me of the droog kill in this game.
And I think what it suggests is that town's collective reads are way off, as they were in that game. I'm very disappointed that my MM/FA theory didn't end up being true, and I think that flip means that MM is town too. I definitely want to take a closer look at farside once again.

@Shadow: if only one person wins a hand in any given day, they will be bulletproof the following night. That's the mechanic that Fire wants to (ab)use by throwing hands to townreads.

I don't even know what you mean by most of this.

[Fire Assassin]

Who are we giving money to fire?

VOTE: something_smart

I actually think we should give it to Wingback, but I assume you think to yourself?

[The MM]

Wait, why did I vote something_smart?
VOTE: the mm
Why aren't you dead? You had a lot of money

I won a hand, I was freaking Bulletproof. Read'em rules.
Come to think of it, I gotta win another hand today so I can be Bulletproof again and use your money safely. Hope I don't get derped by the system too much more.

Did it look like shadow was going to really more? He said he was reading, and went straight for intent to hammer and had time to talk . I'm not letting a replacement in that spot get a hammer. The day has gone on long enough.
What do you think shadow would've said that he couldn't say today? Or that would change the lynch? Nothing.
Plus you're probably scum so I'm not sure why I expect your case to make sense

There was one day. Of course it did.
I don't know, anything at all? Like, try to make his case as to why we should lynch X or not lynch Y. This would even give you reads on him. Only scum benefits from cutting comms.
Good to see we're mutual scumreads. Nah, it's not good, you either done goofed or are scum. I mean come on; the only reason I would be scum is taking

your

scumchips.

[farside22]

Fold

I need to think about a few things before I vote.

This is a very self conscious post.

You didn't want to vote anyone....yeah okay, but why do you feel the need to say that..?

I tend to overthink things and I had a theory i was looking into when I had time.
My first reaction was to just vote MM.
But then I thought about how something smart was blaming people for pushing votes while he sits on his vote for FAQ2.
My brain finds it hard to see them scum together and I start going, farside are you looking at everyone or ignoring people.
Then there is you who's said nothing except willing to hammer.

Right now I'm just going on fumes and waiting for tomorrow before I do anything.

[Wingback]

Fold

Fell behind a lot so I'm going to have to re-read from page one. I'm having problems with my vision over the past couple of weeks (blurry eyes) which makes reading really hard. I'm going to catch up with my other games first and then tackle this one after.

[Something_Smart]

I think I understand the BBT kill. It strikes me as kind of a "don't rock the boat" kill, to eliminate a strong player who hadn't really contributed much this far.
It reminds me of the droog kill in this game.
And I think what it suggests is that town's collective reads are way off, as they were in that game. I'm very disappointed that my MM/FA theory didn't end up being true, and I think that flip means that MM is town too. I definitely want to take a closer look at farside once again.

@Shadow: if only one person wins a hand in any given day, they will be bulletproof the following night. That's the mechanic that Fire wants to (ab)use by throwing hands to townreads.

Are you meaning that we should look at the reads made during day 1 and take them completely opposite? Who didn't even get real votes on? Who looks in control?

No, it just means that scum think they are doing well and don't want us to rethink our reads. Thus, we should rethink our reads. We shouldn't necessarily rethink all of them.

Fold

I need to think about a few things before I vote.

This is a very self conscious post.

You didn't want to vote anyone....yeah okay, but why do you feel the need to say that..?

It's self-aware, not self-conscious. Why did you feel the need to say that?

Wait, why did I vote something_smart?

VOTE: the mm

Why aren't you dead? You had a lot of money

If scum kill someone with a lot of money, most of that money just goes right back into town hands. And why would scum necessarily kill a potential mislynch like MM if he is in fact town?

I think I understand the BBT kill. It strikes me as kind of a "don't rock the boat" kill, to eliminate a strong player who hadn't really contributed much this far.
It reminds me of the droog kill in this game.
And I think what it suggests is that town's collective reads are way off, as they were in that game. I'm very disappointed that my MM/FA theory didn't end up being true, and I think that flip means that MM is town too. I definitely want to take a closer look at farside once again.

@Shadow: if only one person wins a hand in any given day, they will be bulletproof the following night. That's the mechanic that Fire wants to (ab)use by throwing hands to townreads.

I don't even know what you mean by most of this.

Scum want to kill the person who they don't want alive the most. This could be a person liable to start catching them, or one who is widely townread and is leading town in a dangerous direction. Since the scum killed BBT, who wasn't really active, engaged, or in a town leader position, it probably means they aren't too afraid of the above things happening, which probably means that the town's reads, as a whole, are fairly bad.

Wait, why did I vote something_smart?
VOTE: the mm
Why aren't you dead? You had a lot of money

I won a hand, I was freaking Bulletproof. Read'em rules.

Bulletproof only goes into effect if only one person wins money in any given DP. Read'em rules.

[farside22]

We should all be following the plan of betting and giving the hands to our townread.
Right now I am curious on that kill?

BBT wasn't really trying in the game if my memory serves right.

Seriously??!!
If you give a lot of money to a single player and IF they are town, scum know who they should NK.
If your townread is scum then lol.

There is a bullet proof ability to be had.
Sooooo????

[lane0168]

@the mm. If a SINGLE player wins a hand.
Read'em rules.
He had intent to hammer. In what world does that mean me is going to try a case on someone else? Or do anything else? If he had a lot to say, do you think he would've said hey why did you hammer today?

Why are you still alive again? Come up with a reason. You weren't bulletproof.

Also what did you do with your money?

@something_...smart? Who cares where the money goes? Where does the tracker and 1-shot roles topper go? Nowhere. Scum would risk a track or rolestop because he MIGHT get mislynched? Don't think so.

[Alchemist21]

"Wild" Bill Hickock was a famous gunslinger of the old West. The Deadman's Hand got its name because it was the poker hand Wild Bill was holding when he was assassinated by Jack McCall.

♠ ♡ DAY 2 VOTECOUNT ♢ ♣

MM(2):

Shadow Step, lane

Lane:

The MM

Not Voting(6):

Fire Assassin, Something_Smart, Wingback, Infinity 324, farside, RedCoyote,

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

The current pot is $65

The amount to call is $20

Still in the hand:Fire Assassin, Something_Smart, Infinity 324, lane, RedCoyote, Shadow_Step

Fire Assassin, Something_Smart, Infinity 324, lane, RedCoyote must act.

Spoiler: Betting History

Bet orders:
Ante
Shadow step bets $20
farside folds
MM folds
Wingback folds

Day ends in (expired on 2016-07-27 01:22:00)

[Shadow_step]

I see that being useful in a situation where we have a non CCed town PR. Otherwise I don't see much use in making one person win all the hands just to make them bulletproof for a night.

Ewww no, it doesn't matter if they have a power role. You asking for a power role like this is kind of scummy.

Total misrep, I didn't ask for a PR, I was talking about a "situation", e.g. the massclaim in a lylo etc.

[Shadow_step]

Fold

I need to think about a few things before I vote.

This is a very self conscious post.

You didn't want to vote anyone....yeah okay, but why do you feel the need to say that..?

I tend to overthink things and I had a theory i was looking into when I had time.
My first reaction was to just vote MM.
But then I thought about how something smart was blaming people for pushing votes while he sits on his vote for FAQ2.
My brain finds it hard to see them scum together and I start going, farside are you looking at everyone or ignoring people.
Then there is you who's said nothing except willing to hammer.

Right now I'm just going on fumes and waiting for tomorrow before I do anything.

I think I understand the BBT kill. It strikes me as kind of a "don't rock the boat" kill, to eliminate a strong player who hadn't really contributed much this far.
It reminds me of the droog kill in this game.
And I think what it suggests is that town's collective reads are way off, as they were in that game. I'm very disappointed that my MM/FA theory didn't end up being true, and I think that flip means that MM is town too. I definitely want to take a closer look at farside once again.

@Shadow: if only one person wins a hand in any given day, they will be bulletproof the following night. That's the mechanic that Fire wants to (ab)use by throwing hands to townreads.

Are you meaning that we should look at the reads made during day 1 and take them completely opposite? Who didn't even get real votes on? Who looks in control?

No, it just means that scum think they are doing well and don't want us to rethink our reads. Thus, we should rethink our reads. We shouldn't necessarily rethink all of them.

Fold

I need to think about a few things before I vote.

This is a very self conscious post.

You didn't want to vote anyone....yeah okay, but why do you feel the need to say that..?

It's self-aware, not self-conscious. Why did you feel the need to say that?

Wait, why did I vote something_smart?

VOTE: the mm

Why aren't you dead? You had a lot of money

If scum kill someone with a lot of money, most of that money just goes right back into town hands. And why would scum necessarily kill a potential mislynch like MM if he is in fact town?

I think I understand the BBT kill. It strikes me as kind of a "don't rock the boat" kill, to eliminate a strong player who hadn't really contributed much this far.
It reminds me of the droog kill in this game.
And I think what it suggests is that town's collective reads are way off, as they were in that game. I'm very disappointed that my MM/FA theory didn't end up being true, and I think that flip means that MM is town too. I definitely want to take a closer look at farside once again.

@Shadow: if only one person wins a hand in any given day, they will be bulletproof the following night. That's the mechanic that Fire wants to (ab)use by throwing hands to townreads.

I don't even know what you mean by most of this.

Scum want to kill the person who they don't want alive the most. This could be a person liable to start catching them, or one who is widely townread and is leading town in a dangerous direction. Since the scum killed BBT, who wasn't really active, engaged, or in a town leader position, it probably means they aren't too afraid of the above things happening, which probably means that the town's reads, as a whole, are fairly bad.

Wait, why did I vote something_smart?
VOTE: the mm
Why aren't you dead? You had a lot of money

I won a hand, I was freaking Bulletproof. Read'em rules.

Bulletproof only goes into effect if only one person wins money in any given DP. Read'em rules.

Cause I didn't really feel that farside needed to add that to her post.
She simply could have folded and said nothing. She must have thought only doing that would look scummy.

It looked like a conscious effort to not look scummy.

[Fire Assassin]

Fold

Fell behind a lot so I'm going to have to re-read from page one. I'm having problems with my vision over the past couple of weeks (blurry eyes) which makes reading really hard. I'm going to catch up with my other games first and then tackle this one after.

Wingback literally just fucked my whole plan in the ass.

I need to rethink this, I have to reexamine Lane to see if that is a good idea to give him it.

[farside22]

@shadow: with your theory i didn't have to post anything at all.
I'm not sure if you read the game at all or if you are the type just to not read what you missed as a replacement, but I really that FAQ2 was scum so me thinking about my reads is natural after being wrong.

That said, @ lane are you aware enough about the bet yesterday, how much MM got in winnings?

Vote: something smart

[lane0168]

Over 1000. 1160 I think. Won 1170 and folded 2 Antes. Why?

[lane0168]

Fold

Fell behind a lot so I'm going to have to re-read from page one. I'm having problems with my vision over the past couple of weeks (blurry eyes) which makes reading really hard. I'm going to catch up with my other games first and then tackle this one after.

Wingback literally just fucked my whole plan in the ass.

I need to rethink this, I have to reexamine Lane to see if that is a good idea to give him it.

I have only 80. Unless we did it twice, plus with people folding, I really wouldn't win a ton. Not enough for the big one left.

[lane0168]

Wingback would've been my first choice

[farside22]

Over 1000. 1160 I think. Won 1170 and folded 2 Antes. Why?

See things you can buy on front page.

I thinknow wingback needs to catch up.
I'd be fine with RC winning or lane