New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Titus]

I smell a rat.

Lynch either Dunnstral or Titus.

VOTE: Titus

Can we just end this?

Since you say you can confirm Mirhawk is the doc, are you confirming Titus is scum?

I am a backup Nurse.
I know there is a Nurse and a Doctor in the game.
I had thought my role told me they were a

town

nurse and doctor, but it turns out that they could be any alignment.
At the very least, I can confirm their claim, which is likely to be town, imo.

I buy this.

@Dunn, they are not likely all town but I think they are honest. I don't think Varsoon plays it that way if he's not a backup Nurse.

Just in case we mass claim before lylo. If no nurse appears, Varsoon gets looked at really close.

UNVOTE: mirhawk

[Dunnstral]

Varsoon, what was the role called in your pm?

Town Backup Nurse.
Since my role says it will change to Town Nurse with a Nurse dies, I assumed the Nurse was town.

Nurse is the flavor name for a Backup Doctor. Once a Doctor has died, the Nurse will become an ordinary Doctor. The Nurse may or may not be self-aware (if not, it will receive a Vanilla Townie Role PM).

This role makes no guarantee about the existence of a Doctor in the setup to begin with. If there is no Doctor, then this role is functionally a Named Townie at best. On the other hand, in a game with multiple Doctors, the Nurse will generally inherit the sanity or other quirks of the Doctor who died first.

This role is pro-Town most of the time.

The self-aware version of Nurse (receives a Nurse or Backup Doctor Role PM), and only this self-aware version of Nurse, is considered Normal on mafiascum.net.

[Dunnstral]

So you're a backup backup doctor?

[Titus]

Ok, I'll unvote and see how this plays out. I agree Dunn, I haven't heard of a backup nurse. Maybe he's just saying backup nurse where he should be saying backup doc.

Unvote

Varsoon knows the difference. He means backup nurse.

[Wake1]

Varsoon, what was the role called in your pm?

Town Backup Nurse.
Since my role says it will change to Town Nurse with a Nurse dies, I assumed the Nurse was town.

So there's a possibility you could end up as a Doctor.

With all this apparent Backup, the idea that there is a pair of Even-Odd Docs meshes with this development.

[Dunnstral]

I don't see how we can essentially have 2 protective roles and 2 backup roles

If anything, there is no nurse and the backup nurse is just for the mafia neapolitan which seems likely actually

maybe mafia does have a traitor?

[Dunnstral]

Varsoon, what was the role called in your pm?

Town Backup Nurse.
Since my role says it will change to Town Nurse with a Nurse dies, I assumed the Nurse was town.

So there's a possibility you could end up as a Doctor.

With all this apparent Backup, the idea that there is a pair of Even-Odd Docs meshes with this development.

No

There's a possibility he could end up as

backup doctor

who would then have to seperately become doctor

[podoboq]

The self-aware version of Nurse (receives a Nurse or Backup Doctor Role PM), and only this self-aware version of Nurse, is considered Normal on mafiascum.net.

"Backup is an acceptable modifier under Normal guidelines on mafiascum.net, both with and without its primary role present. Nurse and Deputy are acceptable names for Backup Doctor and Backup Cop, although they are not required."

All backups are considered normal as long as the role they are backing up is also normal. Backup Nurse, albeit weird, is normal.

[Airick10]

Ok, I'll unvote and see how this plays out. I agree Dunn, I haven't heard of a backup nurse. Maybe he's just saying backup nurse where he should be saying backup doc.

Unvote

Varsoon knows the difference. He means backup nurse.

Ok, have you seen a backup nurse before? I haven't.

[Wake1]

Varsoon, what was the role called in your pm?

Town Backup Nurse.
Since my role says it will change to Town Nurse with a Nurse dies, I assumed the Nurse was town.

Nurse is the flavor name for a Backup Doctor. Once a Doctor has died, the Nurse will become an ordinary Doctor. The Nurse may or may not be self-aware (if not, it will receive a Vanilla Townie Role PM).

This role makes no guarantee about the existence of a Doctor in the setup to begin with. If there is no Doctor, then this role is functionally a Named Townie at best. On the other hand, in a game with multiple Doctors, the Nurse will generally inherit the sanity or other quirks of the Doctor who died first.

This role is pro-Town most of the time.

The self-aware version of Nurse (receives a Nurse or Backup Doctor Role PM), and only this self-aware version of Nurse, is considered Normal on mafiascum.net.

Is

Backup Nurse

possible in a Large Normal?

[podoboq]

I don't see how we can essentially have 2 protective roles and 2 backup roles

If anything, there is no nurse and the backup nurse is just for the mafia neapolitan which seems likely actually

maybe mafia does have a traitor?

If there are two docs, backup nurse seems possible. Also, Varsoon's crumb is 100% believable.

You see what I mean now about mafia neapolitan being a garbage role for the scum team.

[Varsoon]

Yeah, Wake, s'why I brought more attention to it when faking masons.
It works though, doesn't it?


Also, yes, it literally says BACKUP NURSE and not BACKUP DOCTOR.


And I imagine that if the Nurse becomes the Doctor, they are no longer the Nurse, which means I don't become the Doctor when they die, if that makes sense.

I am simply a backup for the backup.

[Wake1]

The self-aware version of Nurse (receives a Nurse or Backup Doctor Role PM), and only this self-aware version of Nurse, is considered Normal on mafiascum.net.

"Backup is an acceptable modifier under Normal guidelines on mafiascum.net, both with and without its primary role present. Nurse and Deputy are acceptable names for Backup Doctor and Backup Cop, although they are not required."

All backups are considered normal as long as the role they are backing up is also normal. Backup Nurse, albeit weird, is normal.

Interesting.

[Titus]

Ok, I'll unvote and see how this plays out. I agree Dunn, I haven't heard of a backup nurse. Maybe he's just saying backup nurse where he should be saying backup doc.

Unvote

Varsoon knows the difference. He means backup nurse.

Ok, have you seen a backup nurse before? I haven't.

No but it is legal.

[Titus]

Varsoon, you want to lynch Wake or podog?

[Airick10]

Ok Varsoon... Got it. I just haven't seen it before so that throws me off.

[Dunnstral]

I don't think there's an actual nurse. I think he's a named townie

[Wake1]

Also want to point out that Titus is ignoring my posts directed towards her.

[podoboq]

Yeah, Wake, s'why I brought more attention to it when faking masons.
It works though, doesn't it?


Also, yes, it literally says BACKUP NURSE and not BACKUP DOCTOR.


And I imagine that if the Nurse becomes the Doctor, they are no longer the Nurse, which means I don't become the Doctor when they die, if that makes sense.

I am simply a backup for the backup.

Wait, so there seem to be some questions about your role. I suggest you PM the mod and get back to us when you have answers.

1) Please clarify. Is Varsoon a backup NURSE, not a backup DOCTOR?
2) If a Doctor dies, and the Nurse replaces that Doctor, is the Backup Nurse still able to upgrade into anything in the future?

[Wake1]

Varsoon, you want to lynch Wake or podog?

[Titus]

Ok Varsoon... Got it. I just haven't seen it before so that throws me off.

That makes Varsoon likely town. I don't see Varsoon doing this as scum. Is it possible? Yes. I won't feel comfortable with Varsoon near lylo if that happens. But the manner in which he claimed is pretty townie.

The MOONLOGIC scenario is this was cooked up in scumchat.

[Titus]

I smell a rat.

Lynch either Dunnstral or Titus.

I am not entertaining this or similar with responses. Thread is bloated enough.

[podoboq]

I don't think there's an actual nurse. I think he's a named townie

There's an actual nurse. I would gamble real money on that.

[Varsoon]

Varsoon, you want to lynch Wake or podog?

Hhaahahaha no.

Yeah, Wake, s'why I brought more attention to it when faking masons.
It works though, doesn't it?


Also, yes, it literally says BACKUP NURSE and not BACKUP DOCTOR.


And I imagine that if the Nurse becomes the Doctor, they are no longer the Nurse, which means I don't become the Doctor when they die, if that makes sense.

I am simply a backup for the backup.

Wait, so there seem to be some questions about your role. I suggest you PM the mod and get back to us when you have answers.

1) Please clarify. Is Varsoon a backup NURSE, not a backup DOCTOR?
2) If a Doctor dies, and the Nurse replaces that Doctor, is the Backup Nurse still able to upgrade into anything in the future?

1. I am a backup NURSE.
2. I only replace a NURSE when they die. Based on the wording of my role, if a NURSE becomes a DOCTOR, then when they die, I will not back them up.
I'll ask the mod, I guess?

[podoboq]

I smell a rat.

Lynch either Dunnstral or Titus.

I am not entertaining this or similar with responses. Thread is bloated enough.

Obviously quote the thing that isn't directed to you rather than the real accusations that are deserving of respect and a response. That's totally towny, right?