New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Dunnstral]

Also he was a real motion detector as seen in the opening post and not a dirty fake claimer

[kraska77]

MY GAME, MY FLAVOR MAFIA

Current Status: Day 3

Deadline: (expired on 2016-07-31 00:59:36)

PLAYERS

1. AGar *
   
2. Almost50
   
3. Dunnstral
   
4. Zachstralkita
   
5. shannon
   
6. kraska77
   Sickofit1138

   
   
7. Mirhawk
   SuddenlyARabbit
   
   
8. Airick10
   
9. Performer
   Nero Cain
   
   
10. Transcend
    
11. Boem_u_dusi
    
12. podoboq
    
13. Wake88 *
    
14. Varsoon *
    
15. implosion

NOT PLAYERS ANYMORE

1. Vedith
   Nosferatu
   ,
   Mafia Neapolitan
   , lynched
   Day 1
   .
   
2. Lapsa,
   Macho Townie
   , killed
   Night 1
   .
   
3. PeregrineV,
   Town Doctor
   , lynched
   Day 2
   .
   
4. Titus,
   Vanilla Town
   , killed
   Night 2
   .

OH NOES DEM MODKILLS

[Almost50]

Or you're a mafia role cop.

Come on, mate. Like, if I'm not confusing my games already, I thought we did have a Scum Neapolitan flip. Would it be possible for both Neapolitan & Role Cop to exist in the same setup AND be of the same alignment?

[Transcend]

I'm going to say with much dignity that this is a mod error then.

PEDIT: LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Transcend]

No Dunn is right

If this wasn't a mod fuck up, it would be a scum claim on my behalf.

But I'm saying the mod made an error and this needs attention post-haste.

[Transcend]

Anyways, I highly encourage you guys not to lynch me because I promise that this is an error by the mod. And I didn't give up when I "slipped". Whereas Mirhawk did give up. Ergo he's 100% confirmed not town while I can still be town.

[Dunnstral]

FYI I plan on voting slipper mirhawk today regardless

[Dunnstral]

It seems Mirhawk and Titus want me dead before I can do anything remotely similar to them

I've just referred to my list and realized Mirhawk is neutral. This may have been overshadowed by the fact that he's voting me

Why don't you question Mirhawk on some stuff?

And the fact that a lot of her posts suck? Yes I know that's coming from ME.

oh... i finally get it!

VOTE: Titus

Why don't you question Mirhawk on some stuff?

and you?

And question me or me question Mirhawk? If I had a desire to do that at the current moment I would be doing it and not telling you to.

His alive presence is interfering greatly with my scumhunting activities, not to mention he contributes worthless reads to boot

and no fake dayvigs either dont tease me. if you're in this setup then i greatly implore you to use your ability for the greater good

It would help if you avoided rank hypocrisy Zach. You want me to unvote you because it won't go anywhere but Lapsa unvoted me for the same reason, you object.

The difference is:

1) I'm town

2) You're scum

You like that one? Dunnstral taught me.

Am I to read this as your reads suck because of him? Because that's what I'm getting from it.

Also calling for dayvigs on people who you don't think are scum is terrible fucking play.

Okay captain lieutenant commander, be real. It wasn't going to happen even if there was a fucking dayvig.

Uh no, Mirhawk is overanalyzing the graph and replying to other posts that don't matter

Also I think I'll say Varsoon is mafia rather than insult his play

This is why you're awful, by the way. Comfortable with swapping my vote

What's your current take on Zach? He posts frequently.

My general impression is that I find his demeanor antitown. He also says a lot of things that I just don't see town saying.

I don't like his reads much (though my own opinion of Dunn has gotten much worse over the last few pages), and he flails at everyone who attacks him.

You're attacking me, I'm not exactly flailing at you.

I want Wake to post more, PeregrineV was supposed to post more, I don't want to vote Mirhawk or Varsoon

Dunn if you had used your words, words aside from " Because I said so " your partner may not have claimed - if the claim is legit.

Titus, what say you diffuse your vote on me and I'll magically diffuse your wagon.

OK explain to me how Mirhawk and varsoon are BOTH town when I think they're both scum

I didn't say they were both Town, Detective, but I like Varsoon's posts ( he has a good point on you)

Mirhawk's play does not warrant my vote atm.

By the way, was Titus L-3 or L-4 something when the mason claim happened?

I want Wake to post more, PeregrineV was supposed to post more, I don't want to vote Mirhawk or Varsoon

Dunn if you had used your words, words aside from " Because I said so " your partner may not have claimed - if the claim is legit.

Titus, what say you diffuse your vote on me and I'll magically diffuse your wagon.

I'm a mason, you should be diffusing my wagon anyway, but I'll humor this if it gets me a bus.

Which of our mutual scumreads do you want to lynch?

Um do you scumread shannon?



Ayy looks like I spread the quote curse ^^

Transcend is town and if Titus can think I'm heavy scum then that should show you the quality of her reads.

I've been saying Sickofit is a bad lynch for a while now,

but I'd rather lynch Mirhawk

/shannon than lynch Sickofit

Fuckin.. umm... not to mention the mason claim business

yeah Zach's mafia With Mirhawk and Wake. Wake part coming up next

[Boem_u_dusi]

Transcend you're never a lynch as long as Mirhawk is alive.

I'll try to find other games with motion detector to see how that role works, maybe we're wrong.


Wise man said a long time ago:

Leave no stone unturned.

[Transcend]

Well Dunnstral found one that contradicts the way I've received my PM's.

[Transcend]

There's no need to dig for games either the mod is going to confirm that he fucked up or that he's going to confirm he didn't fuck up and then I'll be conf scum.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Stop with angleshooting, I don't want you modkilled if you are town. Maybe the mod didn't mess up.

[Boem_u_dusi]

Games are hard to find, seems like it's not a very common role.

[Dunnstral]

HAHAHA whaddya fucking know i was the second initial person on Nos' wagon and look how THAT turned out. yw



Wake town by the way, because his reactions to the hammer I felt were genuine


I still don't want to vote Titus.

2117 - Wake:

Nosferatu did not provide content.

Why exactly are you all going after Vedith?

Give me a sentence or two. Some sort of content.

2118 - Dunnstral: 'He's Mafia'

This actually pisses me off. Dunnstral never wanted to vote Vedith/Nos slot in the first place.

Meaning that Dunnstral pisses you off?

Yep


I'm very disheartened to say that for some reason today they seem more plausible as scum and they haven't even posted yet LMFAO

Why kill Lapsa???

FINALLY we have some real data to chew on.

Going back to start and look at interactions.

tinfoil: Titus did it because all Lapsa was going to do all game was call her dumb

The most obvious one is Performer with his weak ass townread on Vedith.

Can you help me out with this? I know Dunnstral's gonna swoop in here and cite some bullshit reason why Performer is town.

podoboq is another choice but something about his reaction to Vedith's claim puts me off from that lynch at the moment....


Titus, if you're not getting lynched today Wake definitely isn't.

I will wagon myself before that happens.

I want to wagon Wake or Varsoon, depending on Wake's answer.

Do your scumreads ever exist outside of people that vote you?

Yes.

I remove

liars

and

drama stirrers.

Lack of energy has prevented me from collapsing a lung laughing at this.

Do you..... not remember fakeclaiming mason yesterday?

By the way, a Wake wagon is not happening under any circumstance and I'm against a Varsoon wagon.

I'm not against wagoning Wake because Titus wants it. I'm against wagoning Wake cause he is super fucking town.

If you had to kill a townie, you're better off killing me. In fact, you're better off killing shannon who

claimed VT

to help us out!

Yes, I'm hard defending the shit out of him right now. I do not care.

Zach, the game rules made me. It's a pretty small one.

If Dunn died, the gambit would be fine. I would have been proven right and the fact I couldn't defend him from lynch makes my actions more understandable.

Scum bussed Vedith when they could lol policy lynch me? No. My wagon was chock full of scum.

Whatever, I'm not arguing that shit now.


WHY would they policy lynch you? What exactly have you DONE? If you had your way Vedith would be kicking his feet up sipping a fucking pina colada right now and one of Varsoon, Sickofit (beeboy) [Town], Wake, or Me would be dead. All townies.

Scum bussed Vedith for towncred. There could have been scum on BOTH of your wagons.

Wake, do you think scum!Titus would go out of her way to fakeclaim to save DUNN on the grounds that DUNN is OBVTOWN and also connect him to her by fakeclaiming MASONS, then RETRACT THE CLAIM and openly tunnel the same people who were voting her? Where is the sense in that?


Answer me this.

I don't and that's why I'm hesitant to vote Titus. But if the wagons were Wake and Titus, I would not hesitate to vote Titus.

BUT THAT WON'T HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE VOTING PERFORMER.

P.S. Wake's recent posting is blatant psychological manipulation. By putting Titus, Nos and the color red together, he wants players to associate these things together and is trying to use underhanded tactics and ignore what goes against him.

Oh wow and now Wake is trying to get town to vote me while abandoning any pretense I can be proven scum because he cherrypicks and even Zach knows it.

With your actions he does not need psychological manipulation to get people to vote you, trust me.

You and Wake are TvT. I am trying to clear you to him and trying to clear him to you. It's NOT WORKING.

IF THIS IS THE PRIMARY TOPIC OF OUR DAY WE ARE GOING TO BE FUCKED.

Then let me back out of the thread. Wake is going to do nothing but tunnel me drowning out everyone else, and I read others by iteracting with them and how they interact with others. I will also not be interrupting your Performer push. Wake has to prove himself town. You cannot. I have had some suspicion on Wake since before he entered and his checkbox post didn't help. Cherry picking is scummy. Wake has to do something townie for me to townread him. Which means getting out of the thread so your Performer push can happen and YOU can see you are wrong.

I'd feel much more comfortable backing out of the thread and letting you push Wake so he flips Town LMFAO just to spite you

Have fun see you in a bit

I'm a 1-shot vigilante, I shot Lapsa.

.................

Why did you kill

Lapsa

, Dunnstral?

I'm not answering dumb questions like that. Get off of Titus and stop asking me stuff

You should know why

...........................................................................

Read: I'm having a hard time making up something that sounds reasonable



Ok scum probably targeted me LMFAO but I had someone looking out for me

If you have a point in 2930, make it plain.

You said don't put words in his mouth but the quotes appear to indicate you are indeed assuming multiball

Zach, are you willing to lynch Dunnstral or Titus Day 2?

only if it's an ultimatum between you/Titus TBH

[Boem_u_dusi]

Zulfy is motion detector in this game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=63716

[Transcend]

I don't know what angle-shooting is.

But the motion detector I'm playing is receiving far different results from what Boon received.

[Dunnstral]

Right so here's how I see things

Zach hard defends Mirhawk who scum slipped

Zach hard defends Wake88 who is almost confirmed scum to me

Zach hard defends Transcend who scum slipped TWICE (second one not revealed yet)

[Dunnstral]

Scum team: Mirhawk/Wake/Transcend/Zach

[Boem_u_dusi]

From Zulfy:

Night 1: Investigated Keyser Soze. Saw him move.
Hmm
Day 1, Cop and Follower are dead.
Me: If cop died last night, that must mean Keyser must have moved (wrong), I doubt there's any more power roles, so he's probably scum.
So I go after him.

Night 2: Investigated Aristophanes. Saw him not move at all.
Hey, wait a minute. Maybe Cop moved before he was killed. Maybe Trivium investigated Keyser and was then killed (right)
Now, coming into Day 3, it seems like everyone is town-reading me. Not good. Not good because I don't want scum to be lynching me. Haven't had a definitive result yet.

I'll play like a dumbass.
I'll make an incoherent case on Toolenduso.
Scum will see me as incompetent and let me live.
Turns out Performer is neighborizer, hot damn.

Night 3: Investigate Angry Pidgeon. He moves.
No, there's definitely no power roles left.
1 for 1, with 1 scum left for them to find.

Angry killed Performer.

I claim Motion Detector

I'll try to find a few more

[Transcend]

s/o to my boy JarJarDrinks for winning that game

[Dunnstral]

to clarify, he then goes on to say:

As motion detector I can detect the motions from a player or from somebody who targets that player.

That's why Keyser's results came out positive the first night.

[Dunnstral]

Right so here's how I see things

Zach hard defends Mirhawk who scum slipped

Zach hard defends Wake88 who is almost confirmed scum to me

Zach hard defends Transcend who scum slipped TWICE (second one not revealed yet)

Even if Transcend is miraculously town the first two points hold true.

[Boem_u_dusi]

I can't find more games with motion detector

[Dunnstral]

We don't need more games with a motion detector

[Boem_u_dusi]

We don't need more games with a motion detector

OK.

Can you elaborate more on Zach theory? What do you think about Airick10?